Why The Trinity is Wrong: Juxtaposition

[101G]

False. John 1:1 says "the Word (Jesus) was with God". The Greek word for "with" is προς which means face to face. Jesus was face to face with God the Father.

another ERROR on your part. listen and Learn. "WITH" is the same one "PERSON". Scripture, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." here the LORD one person is "WITH" the Last. question is this more than one person who is "WITH" the First? let the bible answer. Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." the term "ALSO" means, "in addition; too". meaning the same "one" person that is "EQUALLY".... other words (the ECHAD of GOD as ONE PERSON ONLY). (smile), this can be found at https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/also.html#C0-1

Also is EQUALLY the same one person, for no one else is present..... Oh MY, has not 101G been saying this all the time.

101G

 

[synergy]

Now, let 101G fire another salvo across the trinity bow. Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Hebrews 1:9 "Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." Hebrews 1:10 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:" Hebrews 1:11 "They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;"

here, the "Lord" the Son? God, Laid the Foundation of the earth.... correct, now this,

Zechariah 12:1 "The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him."

well it's the "LORD", all caps who laid the foundation of the earth.


are the light bulbs coming on? same one person.

101G.

Nothing new here. We already said that the Word of God (Jesus) created everything. That's perfectly in line with Trinitarianism.

 

[101G]

Whatever twist you want to put on Jesus' prayer to His Father fails in light of what I said above concerning John 1:1.

(smile) ... twist? you don't believe the scriptures? PRAY the Father. is not the Holy Ghost the Lord Jesus? Listen and Learn. 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"
again, see that term "WITH" is "ALSO EQUALLY, the Sme one Person in the ECHAD.

now this "ONE" person who is advocate is also/with.... same one person the Comforter.
ADVOCATE: G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
[(not given)]
KJV: advocate, comforter
Root(s): G3844, G2822
See also: G3874

notice definition #1, 2, and 3. are theses titles the Lord Jesus? yes..... (smile). Oh this is to easy not to understand.

101G.

 

[101G]

Nothing new here. We already said that the Word of God (Jesus) created everything. That's perfectly in line with Trinitarianism.

and JESUS is Lord, who is "LORD" the same one person..... GOOD ... by George I think he has it. (smile).

101G.

 

[101G]

@Fred,
the heresy, and twisting of scriptures just may be in your camp.

101G

 

[Hosanna]

The Greeks have a word for that: Perichoresis.

Perichoresis yes I have heard of that before.

DOGMATIC IMPORTANCE OF THE DOCTRINE OF THE PERICHORESIS.—The doctrine of the Trinitarian Perichoresis is of considerable dogmatic importance, because it tersely and luminously expresses the two salient aspects of the dogma of the Blessed Trinity, viz.: Trinitas in Unitate and Unitas in Trinitate, thus equally discountenancing the heresy of Monarchianism on the one hand, and that of Tritheism on the other. In matter of fact Perichoresis involves two important truths: (1) that there is a real distinction between the Three Divine Persons, and (2) that the Divine Nature, or Essence, in spite of the Hypostatic distinctions, is absolutely one. Sabellius, by welding the Three Persons into One, practically denied the dogma of mutual Inexistence, while the Tritheists, who imagined the Divine Essence to consist of three Gods, found themselves unable to admit a real indwelling of the One in the Other. / The Divine Trinity: A Dogmatic Treatise

It all comes back to me now

 

[synergy]

and JESUS is Lord, who is "LORD" the same one person..... GOOD ... by George I think he has it. (smile).

101G.

Sorry to rain on your parade but you already failed with John 1:1 that says "the Word (Jesus) was with (προς) God". Again, the Greek word for "with" is προς which means face to face. Are you seriously promoting a one person God that has two faces? Seriously? That would make you a modalist. Are you are modalist?

 

[synergy]

@Fred,
the heresy, and twisting of scriptures just may be in your camp.

101G

The misunderstanding of Koine Greek NT is on the JW side. There was one time that some JWs knocked on my door. I told them to learn Greek or bring anyone that knows Greek and then we can talk. They never returned.

 

[101G]

Sorry to rain on your parade but you already failed with John 1:1 that says "the Word (Jesus) was with (προς) God". Again, the Greek word for "with" is προς which means face to face. Are you seriously promoting a one person God that has two faces? Seriously? That would make you a modalist. Are you are modalist?

no, you failed, for you admitted that the person in John 1:3 is the same one person in Isaiah 44:24 who was "Alone and "By himself". now, do you want to change your statement? (smile).

101G

 

[101G]

Are you are modalist?

LOL, LOL, LOL, ... No. ....

101G.

 

[101G]

The misunderstanding of Koine Greek NT is on the JW side. There was one time that some JWs knocked on my door. I told them to learn Greek or bring anyone that knows Greek and then we can talk. They never returned.

same here.... (smile).

101G.

 

[synergy]

no, you failed, for you admitted that the person in John 1:3 is the same one person in Isaiah 44:24 who was "Alone and "By himself". now, do you want to change your statement? (smile).

101G

False. Your attempt to misrepresent me will not work. This is what I said:

That falls in line with John 1:3 that reveals that it was the Word of God (Jesus) who was the only one who created all creation. Noone else, present or not, created anything other than that which the Word of God created.

So the Koine Greek version of John 1:1 ("the Word (Jesus) was with (προς) God") leaves you with a choice. Either you believe in a 2- faced one person being (Modalism in other words) or the Trinity. Which is it?

 

[Fred]

same here.... (smile).

101G.

Guile.

 

[101G]

False. Your attempt to misrepresent me will not work. This is what I said:

don't be a sore looser... ok

So the Koine Greek version of John 1:1 ("the Word (Jesus) was with (προς) God") leaves you with a choice.

(smile), Isaiah leave you with.... nothing. Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." I, I, I, I, a SINGLE Person. now let's see this single person clearly,
Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last."

the same as "WITH" in John 1:1b who is the ONE Person God that is John 1:1c..... now do 101G have to DRAW a PICTURE FOR YOU?.....ok, Listen and Learn, Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." WHO IS THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA? THE "Lord" and this same Lord is the First and the Last, the same one PERSON. Revelation 1:11 "Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: (MUST WE FINISH THE PICTURE?) and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea."

the First and the Last is JESUS who is the FIRST and the LAST in Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." ...... checkmate, game over. scripture don't lie.

there is ONLY ... "ONE" First and Last... and that's JESUS, the God of the OT and the NT amen.

don't argue ..... WITH 101G.... argue WITH God. now you can try to discuss the Word of God ..... WITH ..... 101G, but it will do YOU no God. ..... Good Day.

101G.

 

[Fred]

False. Your attempt to misrepresent me will not work. This is what I said:

So the Koine Greek version of John 1:1 ("the Word (Jesus) was with (προς) God") leaves you with a choice. Either you believe in a 2- faced one person being (Modalism in other words) or the Trinity. Which is it?

Prepare yourself for perhaps more of his ransom note posts as seen above.

 

[101G]

Guile.

why thank U... (smile), Guile as in craftiness, synonyms with someone, "Showing mental acuity in dealing with a situation" as in, cleverness, discernment, intelligence, astuteness, acumen, sharpness. acumen, wisdom, and brilliance. one can find these definition at https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/craftiness.html#C0-3

fred, I didn't think U thought of 101G so Highly........

101G.

 

[Fred]

why thank U... (smile), Guile as in craftiness, synonyms with someone, "Showing mental acuity in dealing with a situation" as in, cleverness, discernment, intelligence, astuteness, acumen, sharpness. acumen, wisdom, and brilliance. one can find these definition at https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/craftiness.html#C0-3

fred, I didn't think U thought of 101G so Highly........

101G.

Typical.

2. Deceptiveness, deceit, fraud, duplicity, dishonesty.
Verb

1. to deceive, to beguile

 

[101G]

Prepare yourself for perhaps more of his ransom note posts as seen above.

well since you said .... "RANSON Notes" .... really? well in the Book of Revelation there is only ONE PERSON there, the Lord Jesus who is God. there is no other God in the Book.

Revelation 1:4 "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;" Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

Many say, "him which is, and which was, and which is to come", this is the Father.

Many Say, "and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;", this is the Holy Spirit.

and Many say, "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead", this is the Sn... we got a winner!

but 101G say this is the SAME ONE PERSON, the WINNER, the Lord Jesus the Christ. not trhree person, but the same "ONE" person....... can you agree?

101G.

 

[101G]

Typical.

2. Deceptiveness, deceit, fraud, duplicity, dishonesty.
Verb

1. to deceive, to beguile

Oh! that's YOU? ...... (smile).... YIKES!

101G.

 

[Fred]

well since you said .... "RANSON Notes" .... really? well in the Book of Revelation there is only ONE PERSON there, the Lord Jesus who is God. there is no other God in the Book.

Revelation 6:16-17
(16) and they said to the mountains and to the rocks, Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;
(17) for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?