You are being deceptive again
You were told trinitarians do not believe he was the God (Ton Theon) he was with
Do you really think your deception will not be seen
The Unitarian belief that Jesus is not God causes those who offer worship to the Father's Throne (where Jesus sits) to be guilty of idolatry.
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You were told trinitarians do not believe he was the God (Ton Theon) he was with
Do you really think your deception will not be seen
Each Deity Person was involved in the Cross and Resurrection of Christ in different roles. Do you understand what "different roles" mean?
Again, each Deity Person was involved in the Cross and Resurrection of Christ. Thank you for this Trinitarian verse. Keep those Trinitarian verses coming!
Lets keep our focus on John 2:19. Who is the "I" in that verse?
Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
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Huh? Explain what is the point you're trying to make.
You're the one dancing around and flat out denying "the Word was God". When will you address your heresy?
To show the audience that Trinitarians don't deny anything in the Bible, ὁ Λόγος is not the same person as τὸν Θεόν. We are not Modalists.
He keeps ignoring that fact though he has been told and pretends he has not been answered
it is not an honest tactic
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Here is the question again. I got you squirming in your arm chair sinergy. I can't imagine how painful this question must be for you.
Is ho Logos the same person as Ton Theon?
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.
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If the Son was sacrificed then the substance was divided and the Trinity ceased to exist. If the Son was not scarified then a regular human died. You are in yet another pickle. You're getting a lot of exercise on this board being caught running between a rock and a hard place.
Not according to Scripture.
Jesus destroyed himself? Sorry, that would be suicide and would make Jesus a sinner. You have failed again.
Now onto John 2:22.
This verses proves that Jesus didn't resurrect himself.
John 2 (NIV)
22After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
Denial is stock in tradeHe is the Runningman!
He runs away from Bible verses, logic, and truth.
I answered it already in the Post I'm here replying to. You have difficulty reading English I see. That explains alot about you.
It's you that's "squirming" because you continue to run away from the phrase "the Word was God" phrase as fast as your little legs can carry you.
Run Runningman Run!!! @Runningman did it again in Post 987. Oops! He pretended again that he hasn't been answered. It's that or he can't read English.
He's falling apart at the seams. He is a closet Mormon.
I think that case is @Runningman's dirt poor understanding of the English language.
He has been repeatedly told no trinitarian believes the Word is the person he is with, but he ignores thatI answered it already in the Post I'm here replying to. You have difficulty reading English I see. That explains alot about you.
It's you that's "squirming" because you continue to run away from the phrase "the Word was God" phrase as fast as your little legs can carry you.
I see that you have no understanding of the difference between a person and his attributes. Somebody please teach this runningman to stop running away from English Grammar and to start appreciating it.
You possess a dirt poor understanding of attributes. Peter was manifesting the attributes of satan that many people especially politicians manifest. How many people manifest the attributes of God such as power over death? O I forgot, you're a closet Mormon who thinks people become God. Now it makes sense why you think that way.
Yes that seems likely as he imagines
This supports him
John 1:1–3 (NIV) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
Can somebody, anybody, please teach @Runningman some English Grammar? He is in desperate need of that. I was about to designate him as a Troll but seeing that his grammar is the pits, I'm more inclined to think that's the reason for his heresies, myths, and fairy tales.
In any case satana (Greek) simply means adversary
Verse 23. Get thee behind me, Satan] Υπαγε οπισω μου σατανα. Get behind me, thou adversary. This is the proper translation of the Hebrew word שטן Satan, from which the Greek word is taken. Our blessed Lord certainly never designed that men should believe he called Peter, DEVIL, because he, through erring affection, had wished him to avoid that death which he predicted to himself. This translation, which is literal, takes away that harshness which before appeared in our Lord’s words.
Thou art an offence unto me] Σκανδαλον μου ει—Thou art a stumbling-block in my way, to impede me in the accomplishment of the great design.
Adam Clarke, The Holy Bible with a Commentary and Critical Notes (vol. 5, New Edition.; Bellingham, WA: Faithlife Corporation, 2014), 173.
Good point. That emphasizes even more that attributes are being discussed here, not necessarily persons.
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