Why The Trinity is Wrong: Juxtaposition

[101G]

Jesus was above the Angels but because he is the chosen servant and adopted son of God.

By definition, the son of X is not X.

son of x? are you speaking biologically?

101G.

 

[101G]

No verse says anything like this.

Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." is not God all powerful? yes or no.

101G.

 

[101G]

Let 101G make himself perfectly Clear. if one of the persons in the trinity, G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō'), HIMSELF, how much of the "ONE" Spirit/being, for God is a, Spirit, (per John 4:24a ... how much of this ONE PERSON/Spirit was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō').

NOW, if one have question about G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v.
1. to make empty.
2. (figuratively) to abase, neutralize, falsify.
[from G2756]
KJV: make (of none effect, of no reputation, void), be in vain
Root(s): G2756

101G.

 

[Wrangler]

son of x? are you speaking biologically?

101G.

I’m speaking logically.

The logic works for all relationships. The R of X is not X. This is true for all relationships, R, and for all Beings, X. And especially true when the Being X is one and never changes.

 

[Wrangler]

OK, ISTEN, the Lord Jesus had 100% Power before he was made Lower than the Angels

Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." is not God all powerful? yes or no.

101G.

Funny how one post has nothing to do with the other.

 

[synergy]

NO, GOD the ONE "BING" who is Spirit.

Question: are you talking about God the Father or God the Holy Spirit?

if one of the Person who is supposed to be co-equal was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō')

You're talking about Jesus, God the Son, right?

my question how much of the Spirit was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō')

101G.

Are you asking how much God the Father was kenotic?

 

[synergy]

I’m speaking logically.

The logic works for all relationships. The R of X is not X. This is true for all relationships, R, and for all Beings, X. And especially true when the Being X is one and never changes.

Again, you fail to accept the fact that the word "God" speaks of essence/nature, not person. As an example, it can be said that the human nature of X person is human nature. The same goes for God. Son of God is God or God the Son is God. What makes it so difficult for Arians to at least understand the logic? Is it because their presuppositions recoil in horror in the face of that logical and Biblical fact?

 

[synergy]

Let 101G make himself perfectly Clear. if one of the persons in the trinity, G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō'), HIMSELF, how much of the "ONE" Spirit/being, for God is a, Spirit, (per John 4:24a ... how much of this ONE PERSON/Spirit was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō').

NOW, if one have question about G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v.
1. to make empty.
2. (figuratively) to abase, neutralize, falsify.
[from G2756]
KJV: make (of none effect, of no reputation, void), be in vain
Root(s): G2756

101G.

Only Jesus underwent Biblical kenosis, during his stay on Earth, not God the Father nor God the Holy Spirit. I agree with @Fred.

 

[101G]

I’m speaking logically.

The logic works for all relationships. The R of X is not X. This is true for all relationships, R, and for all Beings, X. And especially true when the Being X is one and never changes.

is the son biologically God Son, yes or no?

101G.

 

[101G]

You're talking about Jesus, God the Son, right?

right,

Are you asking how much God the Father was kenotic?

no, the Spirit, the one Being.

101G

 

[101G]

Only Jesus underwent Biblical kenosis, during his stay on Earth, not God the Father nor God the Holy Spirit. I agree with @Fred.

is not Jesus your 1/3 of the three CO-EQUAL?, and only one "Spirit?"

101G.

 

[101G]

@Fred, @synergy,
since you cannot understand what I been asking. let's make it simple then.
John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."
this is the "Lord" Jesus correct?

now this, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself"

question, "is this the same one Person, yes or no?

101G.

 

[synergy]

is not Jesus your 1/3 of the three CO-EQUAL?, and only one "Spirit?"

101G.

All 3 Persons always have the same Divine Nature that makes each of them God at all times. That never changes. What Jesus voluntarily did was to undergo Biblical kenosis during his stay on Earth, which was to temporarily set aside his Divine perogatives while on Earth. Since his Ascension, He has reassumed all his Divine perogatives and Glory granted to him by God the Father.

You need to be careful of the term "1/3". If you say that Jesus is one of three persons in the Trinity you are correct. If you say that Jesus is 1/3rd God that is incorrect. He is fully God by nature.

 

[Hosanna]

All 3 Persons always have the same Divine Nature that makes each of them God at all times. That never changes. What Jesus voluntarily did was to undergo Biblical kenosis during his stay on Earth, which was to temporarily set aside his Divine perogatives while on Earth. Since his Ascension, He has reassumed all his Divine perogatives and Glory granted to him by God the Father.

You need to be careful of the term "1/3". If you say that Jesus is one of three persons in the Trinity you are correct. If you say that Jesus is 1/3rd God that is incorrect. He is fully God by nature.

I like that. Each member of the trinity is active all the time. They don't have 8 hour shifts. They all three work together all the time, As one.

 

[101G]

All 3 Persons always have the same Divine Nature that makes each of them God at all times. That never changes. What Jesus voluntarily did was to undergo Biblical kenosis during his stay on Earth, which was to temporarily set aside his Divine perogatives while on Earth. Since his Ascension, He has reassumed all his Divine perogatives and Glory granted to him by God the Father.

You need to be careful of the term "1/3". If you say that Jesus is one of three persons in the Trinity you are correct. If you say the Jesus is 1/3rd God that is incorrect. He is fully God.

well then it was 100% God that was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') as I said before. now again 101G ask, and now hear you, then if the Lord Jesus is 100% and was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō'), then the one whom you calls Father and the HOLY Spirit is 100% God also, is this correct? yes or no.

101G.

 

[synergy]

@Fred, @synergy,
since you cannot understand what I been asking. let's make it simple then.
John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."
this is the "Lord" Jesus correct?

Correct. That reveals that Jesus is uncreated, God by nature in other word.

now this, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself"

question, "is this the same one Person, yes or no?

101G.

Yes. Jesus even called Himself "I Am" Who existed before Abraham existed. The "I Am" name is the very same name that God in the OT called Himself when Moses asked God for His name.

 

[101G]

Correct. That reveals that Jesus is uncreated, God by nature in other word.

Yes. Jesus even called Himself "I Am" Who existed before Abraham existed. The "I Am" name is the very same name that God in the OT called Himself when Moses asked God for His name.

I didn't ask you that. 101G asked is this the same ONE PERSON in both verses "WHO MADE ALL THINGS", yes or no?

101G.

 

[synergy]

I like that. Each member of the trinity is active all the time. They don't have 8 hour shifts. They all three work together all the time, As one.

The Greeks have a word for that: Perichoresis.

 

[synergy]

I didn't ask you that. 101G asked is this the same ONE PERSON in both verses "WHO MADE ALL THINGS", yes or no?

101G.

I'll repeat my answer: Yes.

I'm curious. Why are you referring to 101G in the 3rd person?

 

[101G]

I'll repeat my answer: Yes.

I'm curious. Why are you referring to 101G in the 3rd person?

thank you. if it's the same "ONE" person then there is no trinity, because the ONE PERSON said in Isaiah 44:24 that he was alone and 'by Himself.
and "ALONE" means, "having no one else present". meaning there is no second or third person.

101G.