Thomas... My Lord and my God

using the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English, "BY",
prep.
1. Near; close; as, sit by me; that house stands by a river.
[L. pressus.]
2. Near, in motion; as, to move, go or pass by a church. But it seems, in other phrases,or with a verb in the past time, to signify past, gone beyond. "The procession is gone by;" "the hour is gone by;" "John went by." We now use past as an equivalent word. The procession is gone past. Gone by is in strictness tautology, as now used; but I apprehend by signifies primarily near.
3. Through, or with, denoting the agent, means, instrument or cause; as, "a city is destroyed by fire;" "profit is made by commerce;" "to take by force." This use answers to that of the Latin per, through, denoting a passing, acting, agency, or instrumentality.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? ....... (SMILE).

101G.
Definition number three is the one the Bible uses in Colossians 1:16. So Jesus isn't the creator anymore than a wrench is a mechanic. The context is about the church, too, not the physical universe.
 
Definition number three is the one the Bible uses in Colossians 1:16. So Jesus isn't the creator anymore than a wrench is a mechanic. The context is about the church, too, not the physical universe.
(smile), lol, lol, lol, Oh my, when will they ever learn. Jesus is the "CREATOR", just not in flesh with blood... as the christ, oh mercy me. listen, definition #3. eliminates any two persons or three separate and distinct persons. definition #3 certify what the verse states... God is the EQUAL SHARE of himself in flesh to come.... how many times must 101G say it? God is a plurality of HIMSELF. just as the bible states.
101G.
 
(smile), lol, lol, lol, Oh my, when will they ever learn. Jesus is the "CREATOR", just not in flesh with blood... as the christ, oh mercy me. listen, definition #3. eliminates any two persons or three separate and distinct persons. definition #3 certify what the verse states... God is the EQUAL SHARE of himself in flesh to come.... how many times must 101G say it? God is a plurality of HIMSELF. just as the bible states.
101G.
Which verse calls Jesus the creator instead of an instrument. (Smile)
 
Which verse calls Jesus the creator instead of an instrument. (Smile)
John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

1 Corinthians 1:24 "But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God."

101G started not to ANSWER THAT, ..... BUT.... just one more, Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

and there is only one ... "Lord"

101G.
 
@Runningman
just one question, if the Lord Jesus is not the CREATOR, who then is this that the angel said that sent him to John per Revelation 1:1
listen to the angel. Revelation 22:6 "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done." notice, it said, the "Lord" God .... of the holy prophets...... sent him. is this not the "Lord" Jesus? the God of the holy prophets, O.T. and N.T. AGREED?

101G
 
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