The Gospel of Twelve Thrones

[TibiasDad]

Boy, are you so very wrong.

Sometimes, just ask my wife, but not this time!

You don't get to command the Holy Spirit that upon every unbeliever you share Jesus with is going to become convicted of sin and turn to Jesus.

Firstly, I have never “commanded the Holy Spirit”. Secondly, all of us, as a general rule, experience guilt when we know we have done something wrong and are confronted about it. We may or may not acknowledge this or repent of it, but we feel the guilt nonetheless, and continue to do so until our hearts become so calloused that our response to the Spirit is almost automatically negative.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned 1 Corinthians 2:14.

1 Cor 2:6We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9However, as it is written:

“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived” —the things God has prepared for those who love him—
10these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. 14The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16for,

“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?”
But we have the mind of Christ.


The message that “cannot be understood “ are the things of the Spirit meant for “the mature” believers, not those without the Spirit/unbelievers.

This is not the gospel; the message of right and wrong, good and evil, guilt and innocence. These are “the deep things of God.” 2:10

Doug

 

[TibiasDad]

Every born-again believer is "commissioned" to function in some way to God, and it is not always to preach Jesus to unbelievers.

I have never said that every believer is given the gift of evangelism. Nor, is what we do always about unbelievers.

The gifts of the Spirit are not given to believers to waste their gifts on unbelievers.

Evangelism/Evagelists is a gift of the Spirit, and that is primarily for unbelievers but can also be for the spiritual renewal of believers too.

Christ died for sinners/the ungodly. And as you have pointed out, Romans 3 is about the fact that “all have sinned” and are ungodly.


Doug