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the TRUTH is in all of our faces. what 101G is about the say is not for argument, nor debate, just edification. the very first verse of the bible, eliminates any three-person Godhead. it is revealed in the term God itself ... the key to understanding the ONE "Person" in the H259 ECHAD of his own self is revealed. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning
God created the heaven and the earth." the term God here is the Hebrew word,
H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') n-m.
אֱלֹהֵי 'elohiy (el-o-hee') [alternate plural]
1. (literally) supreme ones.
2. (hence, in the ordinary sense) gods.
3. (specifically, in the plural, especially with the article) the Supreme God (i.e. the all supreme).
4. (sometimes) supreme, used as a superlative.
5. (occasionally, by way of deference) supreme magistrates, the highest magistrates of the land.
6. (also) the supreme angels (entities of unspecified type).
[plural of H433]
KJV: angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Root(s): H433
notice definition
3. (specifically, in the plural, especially with the article) the Supreme God (i.e. the all supreme). but the definition also states, [plural of H433]. and H433 states,
H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) n-m.
אֱלֹהַּ 'eloahh (el-o'-ah) [shortened (rarely)]
1. one with supreme strength and ability.
2. the Supreme Being, God the Creator, Yahweh by name.
3. a supreme entity, a god-like creature (that is, one of God's supreme creations, or one of man's inventions).
[probably prolonged (emphat.) from H410]
KJV: God, god.
Root(s): H410
now if this is two separate and distinct persons, and both are co-equal, then by default you have two separate and distinct Supreme Being, and the bible clearly states, Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts;
I am the first, and I am the last; and beside
me there is no God." ........ "
me" is a single person. who is FIRST/Father, and LAST/Son. this is the same one person, for "
me" is a single person designation. this is bared out in Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David.
The LORD said unto
my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
The LORD and
my Lord? two separate and distinct person? no, for the same
my Lord, in verse one sitting at the LORD right is
Yahweh by name in verse 5. listen, Psalms 110:5 "
The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath." yes, the "Lord", the same Lord in verse one at the LORD's right is
Yahweh. let the bible speak.
Lord at verses 5:
H136 אֲדֹנָי 'Adonay (ad-o-noy') n-m.
1. (meaning) Lord (used as a proper name of God only).
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
[am emphatic form of H113]
KJV: (my) Lord.
Root(s): H113
Notice definition #
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
Adonai/"Lord" is
Yahweh God of Israel” yes, the LORD, all capitalization. not a second person, no, the SAME ONE PERSON. for definition #2. said,
2. (person) Adonai. there it is, (
person). and not (persons). so again, the three persons of God is eliminated.
as said, this is not to argue with 101G, nor a debate with 101G but for your edification. if you want to argue, argue with the scriptures, and the definitions. by the way the definitions are coming from the Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments, all these definitions can be reproduced. these definitions are of Mickelson's and Strong's works, and not of 101G's works.
'Now. the key to all of this is as said.
[plural of H433] when the definition said, "plural .. OF". that right there should have ended any two, three, or more persons. for the term "of "means, or is expressing the relationship between
a part and a whole. if one say God is a PART that is many, (two or more), then one has two or More separate and distinct person, which means the PARTS shows division, meaning polyethnic in nature. for a part, whom many say is the person(s) of the ONE God. that's an ERROR on the reader part. for the bible is clear, Philippians 2:6 addresses and clear up the PARTS question, listen, "Who, being in
the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal
with God:" the Greek term "FORM" here certifies the Hebrew term H259 ECHAD and confirms the term "OF either as a "PART" or a "WHOLE.
Form: G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
[perhaps from the base of G3313 (
through the idea of adjustment of parts)]
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313
and the NATURE of God is Spirit, as definitions #2 states. but the definition states also, (through the idea of adjustment of parts). let's address this. as well as the WHOLE. the Root of the word here, it holds the key to understanding if God is a PART of himself, or the WHOLE of himself as the scripture states, "to be equal
with God:".... notice not equal TO, but equal
WITH. lets see this word root.
G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros) n.
1. a portion (i.e. an amount allotted, a part of something).
2. a part.
STOP, we need not to go any further. here lies the answer to God as a WHOLE of himself, or in Parts, (separate and distinct, persons). as said if in Parts, one has more than one EQUAL/CO-EQUAL PERSON, and that's ANTI BIBLE. FOR AGAIN HE SAID, "no "God" beside ....
me", meaning one person. but is the "WHOLE" of God being in PORTION? if so, then we will have our BIBICIAL answer. and here it is. for another word or the synonyms word for Portion is "SHARE" there is the TRUTH biblically. God is the EQUAL "SHARE" of himself in flesh.
and this EQUAL SHARE of himself in flesh confirm the Hebrew term H259 "ECHAD" meaning ONE as in Deuteronomy 6:4 which states, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is
one LORD:" and this oneness in the ECHAD is based on the designations of Ordinal First and Ordinal Last in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK, just as the term "beginning" states in Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1.
for the term "beginning" at Genesis 1:1 is the Hebrew word,
H7225 רֵאשִׁית re'shiyth (ray-sheeth') n-f.
1. the first, in place, time, order or rank.
2. (specifically) a firstfruit.
[from the same as H7218]
KJV: beginning, chief(-est), first(-fruits, part, time), principal thing.
Root(s): H7218
BINGO. the first, in place, time, order or rank. so in time as in Psalms 110:1 & 5 the Fist/Father is also the Last/Son. the same one person.
so the trinity is the BIG DECEPTION, and the GREAT DELUSION. we have been walking by sight instead of by Faith. What is a Delusion: 1. a false belief or judgment about external reality, held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, as a symptom of serious mental illness.
2. a false belief, judgment, or perception.
3. the action of deluding or the state of being deluded.
for the scriptures are correct. OT, Isaiah 66:4 "I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not."
NT, 2 Thessalonians 2:9 "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders," 2 Thessalonians 2:10 "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." 2 Thessalonians 2:11 "
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" 2 Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
God winked at this before, but now calls all men unto repentance. 101G will not argue with anyone, but you may argue with the scriptures.
101G.