The Trinity The Touchstone of Truth

[Keiw1]

Elohim is 100% FACT = PLURAL

GENESIS is the WORD of GOD and is 100% FACT

100% FACT = Genesis 1:1 Elohim = PLURAL
100% FACT = Genesis 1:26 = Elohim/PLURAL = "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness" = PLURAL = THREE
100% FACT = Watchtower/jehobah false witnesses = the Word was "a god"

Repent and turn to the Only Savior who can SAVE you = the LORD Jesus Christ

Yes Elohim can be plural for 3 headed false gods, but in the Hebrew language for the true living God is not plural, but means-the supreme one.
Gen 1:26= false reasoning by trinity religions, because verse 27 is 100% clear-HE( not we) created.
You will find out what you reason as fact= error and will cost you eternity. Please relook.

 

[Keiw1]

100% false here, because only ONE sent .... "HIS" ... angel to John. Listen, Revelation 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:"
he and his is ONLY "ONE" PERSON. and only ONE PERSON sent ... "his" ... angel to John. and the angel identified who sent him. scripture, the angel speaking, Revelation 22:6 "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."

so, ONLY "ONE" PERSON sent ... "HIS" .... angel to John and it was the "Lord God". ...... of the holy prophets, which the NWT say is Jehovah. (see your BIG ERROR now?) the Lord God of the holy prophets is the Lord Jesus who sent .... "HIS" angel. scripture, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

which again shows ONLY one Person in verse 1.

you fellas has been LIED TO. some of you need to ask your leaders why your bibles say Jesus sent his angel, and your same bibles say Jehovah sent his angel. you need to ask. ........ FEAR NOT, THE LORD WILL BE WITH YOU WHEN YOU ASK. Just have FAITH.

so either you can fess up and repent, or just keep on going in a belief that is a LIE, and meet the Lord Jesus with that LIE., now exposed, still attached to you. for it is written in the NWT, that Jesus is the one who sent his angel. at least your NWT got is right...... Jesus is your Jehovah. but why are you all still believing the ERROR that Jesus is not Jehovah ..... when in essence your own bible is telling you that the Lord God, Jesus, is Jehovah? Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel now, one other thing, since you know now by your own bible, JESUS is God, which answer the question in Revelation 1:1 that God, (JESUS), gave this revelation to John HOW? by sending it to John by his angel. so, there is ONLY "ONE" person in Revelation 1:1

Oh this is too easy not to be understood. one would have to pay to miss this.

101G

Rev 1 and Rev 22 are 2 different scenarios. If you can understand Rev 1:1= the giver = God, the receiver= not God.

 

[DavidTree]

Yes Elohim can be plural for 3 headed false gods, but in the Hebrew language for the true living God is not plural, but means-the supreme one.
Gen 1:26= false reasoning by trinity religions, because verse 27 is 100% clear-HE( not we) created.
You will find out what you reason as fact= error and will cost you eternity. Please relook.

Watchtower lies and now you are lying for Watchtower = false witnesses

RUN from Watchtower just as i RAN from RCC = RUN to the SAVIOR = LORD Jesus Christ

 

[Runningman]

John 1:14 is CORRECT

According to John chapter 1 - Which occurred FIRST?

a.) The man named JESUS became the only begotten Son of God
b.) The Word that was GOD became a man and was named JESUS

John 1:1 in most Bible doesn't really work as the Word being a pre-existent being. For starters, there is no pre-existent person or being named the Word in the Old Testament. For two, 1 John 1:1-3 refers to the Word as a thing. Since the Word is a thing then John 1:1 is better understand as God's words being something that are godly and personified.

Can you actually prove Jesus pre-existed in the Old Testament? No one has found it yet.

 

[Runningman]

So you say that any explanation of scripture that is not a copy and paste from scripture is somehow wrong?

You said Peter "prayed" to Jesus. Please show us which version you are copying and pasting from.

That sounds like a very narrow philosophical preference rather than representing how people normally convey truths. It is like a judge telling a person improperly held on trial for murder cannot provide the evidence of his innocence.

Not sure what you're referring to. There is no comparison between you adding a word to the Bible and that story.

you do not know that a prayer is a request?

But are all requests prayers?

Funny someone who follows a heresy calls orthodox views a heresy. Not very logical there.
Even if you deny that sideline topic that has no real significance, Peter still calls to Jesus to save him. There was no disciple that Peter called upon nor would there be reason for Peter to think someone other than Jesus could help. Jesus was not mere human like some heretics try to share. Jesus was not just some human that knew something magical. Jesus is divine in the Godhead. Anything else is denying the testimony of scripture.

Um people can save other people from drowning in the water without being God. Even Jesus needed saving from God. He is just like the rest of us in that regard.

John 12
27Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.

Hebrews 5
7Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

 

[Runningman]

LOL, please do and tell us how the Son of God and the Son of Man is the same, but yet different when concerning Isaiah 9:6.... YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

101G.

It's because if the human is the Son of God, and he is, then Son of God is something he became rather than something he always was. Therefore, Jesus isn't God.

This isn't difficult. Jesus is the begotten Son of God. Do you agree?

 

[DavidTree]

John 1:1 in most Bible doesn't really work as the Word being a pre-existent being. For starters, there is no pre-existent person or being named the Word in the Old Testament. For two, 1 John 1:1-3 refers to the Word as a thing. Since the Word is a thing then John 1:1 is better understand as God's words being something that are godly and personified.

Can you actually prove Jesus pre-existed in the Old Testament? No one has found it yet.

By the Holy Spirit of Truth i asked you a simple grade school level question from John chapter 1.
You evaded accountability that is required by God, for God desires you to worship HIM in Spirit and TRUTH.

Therefore the LORD JESUS Says this to you:
"let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one."

 

[101G]

Rev 1 and Rev 22 are 2 different scenarios. If you can understand Rev 1:1= the giver = God, the receiver= not God.

Revelation 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:"

read the verse slowly. "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him" ..... Now, Revelation 1:4 "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;" Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"
Now who is this Letter/Revelation from? First title, "from him which is, and which was, and which is to come", who is the "which is, and which was, and which is to come?" answer, the Lord Jesus. Revelation 4:8 "And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come." Revelation 4:9 "And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,"

A. the ONE who sits on the throne is the Lord Jesus.
B. the Lord God is the One from verse 1 who sent his angel, (Rev. 22:6), and we can confirm that it was the Lord Jesus who sent his angel. Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." so, it's the Lord God, JESUS, the almighty is the "which is, and which was, and which is to come" this is not hard to understand. but one more

C. Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." ......... THERE IS NO EXCUSE THAT THE Lord JESUS IS THE "which is, and which was, and which is to come", THE ALMIGHTY, ....... God. yes, God as in 1:1.

now the seven Spirits, who also is the Lord Jesus God almighty. scripture, Revelation 3:1 "And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead."

is this the Lord God, JESUS? let's see. Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." this is the Holy Spirit, who is Jesus. For now, RISEN, he is GLORIFIED IN THE Spirit, (see John 17:5)
and Lastly, Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

so, the "which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits" is the same one Person, who is the Lord God .... Jesus the Christ, Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

do 101G have to sing it also? Hope not because 101G cannot sing..... (smile), lol, lol,

101G

 

[Runningman]

By the Holy Spirit of Truth i asked you a simple grade school level question from John chapter 1.
You evaded accountability that is required by God, for God desires you to worship HIM in Spirit and TRUTH.

Therefore the LORD JESUS Says this to you:
"let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one."

a.) The man named JESUS became the only begotten Son of God

 

[Keiw1]

Watchtower lies and now you are lying for Watchtower = false witnesses

RUN from Watchtower just as i RAN from RCC = RUN to the SAVIOR = LORD Jesus Christ

One must go through Jesus and get to the Father=YHVH(Jehovah) to accomplish this-John 4:22-24)))-24/7-365--It all starts here by this choice-Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)- all true followers do these 2 super important teachings 7 days a week.

 

[Keiw1]

Revelation 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:"

read the verse slowly. "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him" ..... Now, Revelation 1:4 "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;" Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"
Now who is this Letter/Revelation from? First title, "from him which is, and which was, and which is to come", who is the "which is, and which was, and which is to come?" answer, the Lord Jesus. Revelation 4:8 "And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come." Revelation 4:9 "And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,"

A. the ONE who sits on the throne is the Lord Jesus.
B. the Lord God is the One from verse 1 who sent his angel, (Rev. 22:6), and we can confirm that it was the Lord Jesus who sent his angel. Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." so, it's the Lord God, JESUS, the almighty is the "which is, and which was, and which is to come" this is not hard to understand. but one more

C. Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." ......... THERE IS NO EXCUSE THAT THE Lord JESUS IS THE "which is, and which was, and which is to come", THE ALMIGHTY, ....... God. yes, God as in 1:1.

now the seven Spirits, who also is the Lord Jesus God almighty. scripture, Revelation 3:1 "And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead."

is this the Lord God, JESUS? let's see. Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." this is the Holy Spirit, who is Jesus. For now, RISEN, he is GLORIFIED IN THE Spirit, (see John 17:5)
and Lastly, Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

so, the "which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits" is the same one Person, who is the Lord God .... Jesus the Christ, Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

do 101G have to sing it also? Hope not because 101G cannot sing..... (smile), lol, lol,

101G

simple English-Rev 1:1--God is giving to another being( Jesus) a revelation--100% fact of life. Since there is only 1 God the receiver is not God or there would be 2.