Who is a monotheist?

[civic]

No Dizerner. Rather billions of persons across history and geography share my view... starting with the Jews
Go and ask any Jew if he agrees with One God = One Person.
Then study all polytheistic religions. One god = One person. That's exactly why you were skeptical about the Greek housewife pretending to worship a single Being.

Having said that, Buddhists, Jainists, Confucianists, Taoists, and Pantheists in general could agree with you: One God does not equal One Person.

I encourage you, finally to examine carefully your own spiritual life, your own relationship with God.
Despite of what you declare in an Internet Forum, you love, trust and obey God as if he were One Single Mind.

and millions are wrong since its not how in academia monotheism is how both @Dizerner and I have defined it. You on the other hand are equivocating and arguing a strawman.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Definitions MATTER. Otherwise you can just say anything is anything.

I know, I know. I'm not saying that definitions don't matter. Please read carefully my posts.
I'm saying that the specific example does not matter. Pick your own hypothetical scenario.

If any person, coming from Australasia or Mars, comes to me saying that he believes in One God, which is a collective of N >1 Persons, and claims that belief to be monotheistic, he is wrong.

 

[civic]

I know, I know. I'm not saying that definitions don't matter. Please read carefully my posts.
I'm saying that the specific example does not matter. Pick your own hypothetical scenario.

If any person, coming from Australasia or Mars, comes to me saying that he believes in One God, which is a collective of N >1 Persons, and claims that belief to be monotheistic, he is wrong.

the reality is what the bible declares not what we can imagine or conjure up in our minds to redefine the meaning of monotheism to support ones personal beliefs.

 

[Dizerner]

No Dizerner.

I get my theological definitions from the Bible, friend.

That's exactly why you were skeptical about the Greek housewife pretending to worship a single Being.

Uh, I wasn't.

Having said that, Buddhists, Jainists, Confucianists, Taoists, and Pantheists in general could agree with you:

I don't care, really.

I'm a CHRISTIAN.

I encourage you, finally to examine carefully your own spiritual life, your own relationship with God.

I actually know God.

 

[Dizerner]

If any person, coming from Australasia or Mars, comes to me saying that he believes in One God, which is a collective of N >1 Persons, and claims that belief to be monotheistic, he is wrong.

Not according to Scripture.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Not according to Scripture.

The scripture, including the gospels, treats God as one single person. A “He”, a singular, when speaking in third person, and a “Thou”, a singular. when speaking in second person.

So, your statement is incorrect.
The God of the Bible is One Mind, One Will.

But what about your God, the God you love and serve, @civic and Dizerner? Do you worship Him, do you worship it, or do you worship them?

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

and millions are wrong since its not how in academia monotheism is how both @Dizerner and I have defined it. You on the other hand are equivocating and arguing a strawman.

Could you please tell our readers the difference between five gods and five divine persons?
If you can’t tell the difference, you’ll be right: there is no difference.

Five gods = five divine persons
Four gods = four divine persons
Three gods = three divine persons
Two gods = two divine persons
One god = ?

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

I get my theological definitions from the Bible, friend.

The terms monotheism or polytheism are not in the Bible.
So how could you extract your definitions from the Bible for these two terms?

I actually know God.

Do you know HIM? Do you know IT… or Do you know THEM?
I am sure you know HIM. You have a personal relationship, precisely because you have your own mind and He has his own mind.
You have a personal relationship because you submit YOUR own will to HIS will.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

and millions are wrong since its not how in academia monotheism is how both @Dizerner and I have defined it. You on the other hand are equivocating and arguing a strawman.

Jews cannot be wrong about who God is.
Otherwise, what’s the purpose of Revelation to Israel?
Doesn’t the Torah state unequivocally that God is One?
And didn’t Jesus quote the Torah to affirm that God is One? Why didn’t Jesus correct the Jews in this regard? Or Did Jesus come to preach a different God?

 

[synergy]

Jews cannot be wrong about who God is.

Are you seriously going to side with the Pharisees?

Otherwise, what’s the purpose of Revelation to Israel?

Read the following Thread:

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Thread 'The Predestination of the Greek OT, the Greek NT, and the Greek Language for the revealing of the Holy Trinity.'

Mar 8, 2025

Belief in the Holy Trinity was not a human invention but was predestined by God, carefully prepared through history, language, and culture. The Greek language, the Greek OT (Septuagint), and Hellenistic Jewish thought all point to a divine setup for revealing the Holy Trinity in the fullness of time.

God Prepared Greek as the Perfect Theological Tool – Long before Christ, God orchestrated events so that Greek would become the dominant language of the ancient world. This wasn’t random. Greek had the precise vocabulary necessary to express complex theological truths, ensuring that the...

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Doesn’t the Torah state unequivocally that God is One?

One what. That's the key.

And didn’t Jesus quote the Torah to affirm that God is One?

Again, one what?

Why didn’t Jesus correct the Jews in this regard? Or Did Jesus come to preach a different God?

Jesus tried to correct the Pharisees and he almost got stoned for it.

 

[Dizerner]

The terms monotheism or polytheism are not in the Bible.
So how could you extract your definitions from the Bible for these two terms?

You're being a bit simplistic here. Words refer to ideas, and different words can contain the same ideas. The IDEAS of a word can be derived from the ideas of the Bible. No English word is found in Scripture obviously, etc. etc.

I challenge you though—just as a matter of curiosity—find me one English dictionary that says God is a "supreme person" instead of "supreme being." If you like getting pedantic, that is.

Do you know HIM? Do you know IT… or Do you know THEM?

All three is fine. Words are our servants, we are not servants of the words.

I am sure you know HIM.

Lol, you obviously don't believe that, you reject almost everything I say. If you really thought I knew God you'd respect what I say.

Please don't be coy, be open and honest.

 

[Dizerner]

Jews cannot be wrong about who God is.

Ah, you realize most of the Torah is rebuking Jews for being wrong about God is.

The ignorance here, lol.

 

[civic]

Could you please tell our readers the difference between five gods and five divine persons?
If you can’t tell the difference, you’ll be right: there is no difference.

Five gods = five divine persons
Four gods = four divine persons
Three gods = three divine persons
Two gods = two divine persons
One god = ?

There is not a 1 to 1 ratio with God and person. Just like with Christ there is not a 1 to 1 ratio with nature and person.

Christianity 101 below.

God is One Being and 3 Persons
Christ is One Divine Person having both a divine and human nature.

 

[civic]

Ah, you realize most of the Torah is rebuking Jews for being wrong about God is.

The ignorance here, lol.

Ditto

 

[Runningman]

Ah, you realize most of the Torah is rebuking Jews for being wrong about God is.

The ignorance here, lol.

I am beginning to sense some anti-Jewish sentiment here. So despite all of the revelation that is said to be directly from God, all of those prophets who identified God in the singular were false prophets? No wonder you have made your own religion. You simply are atheistic about the Bible.

 

[Dizerner]

I am beginning to sense some anti-Jewish sentiment here. So despite all of the revelation that is said to be directly from God, all of those prophets who identified God in the singular were false prophets? No wonder you have made your own religion. You simply are atheistic about the Bible.

People using your weird logic would call Jesus and the Bible anti-Semitic.

We are not "anti-sinners' by calling out sin. We are not "anti-health" by calling out sickness.

Love speaks the truth, love entails honesty, love calls out sin.

Only some kind of twisted worldly secular humanism thinks calling out sin is "hating people."

 

[synergy]

People using your weird logic would call Jesus and the Bible anti-Semitic.

We are not "anti-sinners' by calling out sin. We are not "anti-health" by calling out sickness.

Love speaks the truth, love entails honesty, love calls out sin.

Only some kind of twisted worldly secular humanism thinks calling out sin is "hating people."

Absolutely correct! @Runningman tried to pull that "anti-Semitic" stunt on me on another thread and failed miserably as he did here.

 

[civic]

Absolutely correct! @Runningman tried to pull that "anti-Semitic" stunt on me on another thread and failed miserably as he did here.

We might as well say that denying Jesus Deity is anti- semetic, we know it’s the spirit of antichrist as per John.

 

[Runningman]

People using your weird logic would call Jesus and the Bible anti-Semitic.

We are not "anti-sinners' by calling out sin. We are not "anti-health" by calling out sickness.

Love speaks the truth, love entails honesty, love calls out sin.

Only some kind of twisted worldly secular humanism thinks calling out sin is "hating people."

Then why are you speaking against Jesus? A line should be drawn at some point. Either get ultra specific about your point or shut your mouth. Our Lord is a Jew.

 

[Runningman]

Absolutely correct! @Runningman tried to pull that "anti-Semitic" stunt on me on another thread and failed miserably as he did here.

But Jesus is a Jew and you didn't distinguish him from the others. You'll be more careful going forward I am sure.