DavidTree
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Did you submit unto Genesis???
The Trinity The Touchstone of Truth
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DavidTree
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DavidTree
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Salvation is a Person and that Person is God.
Salvation Says: "I and My FATHER are ONE"
Salvation Says: "No one comes to the FATHER but thru ME"
Salvation Says: "In the begining was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God"
YES, God has a God for THEY are ONE
Who is the liar telling you not to believe the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE ???
Runningman
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Love Genesis, but still there isn't anything about "You must believe Jesus is God to be saved" in the Bible. I don't think you should be insisting people believe that, but it's up to you. I respect your convictions.
DavidTree
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YES, the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE is in Genesis
Runningman
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Where did Jesus get his way, truth, and life from?
I know Genesis, Elohim is NEVER plural for the true living God in the Hebrew language.
God doesn't have a God, that is impossible.
The way the truth the life to go THROUGH Jesus to get to the Father. Jesus assures all TRUE followers do this-John 4:22-24 after warning the rest of the world they don't even know the god they serve. Its the Father searching to be worshipped in spirit and truth--not the Father, son and holy spirit. You see it takes believing Jesus, no trinitarian will because they are mislead by an error of a capitol G God to the Word at John 1:1. The Greek language proves 100% its not a capitol G God to the Word. But the mislead will not believe Jesus or facts over errors.
101G
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see that verse 14 you posted, ...... "14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth." the "God" of our Father hath chosen thee? yes the Lord Jesus, and here how we all know. that term "Chosen" is the Greek term
G4400 προχειρίζομαι procheirizomai (pro-chei-riy'-zo-mai) v.
1. to handle for oneself in advance.
2. (figuratively) to purpose.
[middle voice from G4253 and a derivative of G5495]
KJV: choose, make
Root(s): G4253, G5495
this word is also translated as "make" as you can see. and the apostle Paul confirms that the God of our fathers is Jesus christ as he was before king Agrippa in this third account of the same event with more detail. which is found in Acts 26:13 "At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me." Acts 26:14 "And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks." Acts 26:15 "And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest." Acts 26:16 "But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;"
that term "MAKE" is the same term used by Ananias in saying that Jesus is God, yes the GOD of our fathers.
so, do you believe the bible? if you do then your doctrine and theology are in ERROR. we suggest you read these scriptures for yourself.
101G.
DavidTree
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He ALWAYS had it as the WORD that was GOD = IT IS WHO HE IS = IAM WHO IAM = I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE
YAHshua = IAM HE who WAS who IS and who IS to COME = Revelation chapter 1 = Read ALL about HIM
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DavidTree
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Here is the Hebrew of Genesis 1:1
In the beginning
בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית (bə·rê·šîṯ)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7225: 1) first, beginning, best, chief 1a) beginning 1b) first 1c) chief 1d) choice part
God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God
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101G
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the ONLY First, the LORD, Jesus the HOLY SPIRIT, the ONE and ONLY PERSON, GOD. and if you didn't understand God is the "HE"..... (smile).
Now did the Lord Jesus say "WHICH ONE?" no he said HE, HE, HE, who is God, according to Mark 10:6..... (smile)..... your three person are eliminated.
and if you want to KNOW which one, LISTEN again. Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"
LISTEN, the HE was "ALONE", and "BY Himself". so there is no which one...... LOL, LOL, there is no choice, .... (smile),
YIKES! your three person godhead is dead as a door knob.101G.
101G
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that's false worship. if God is three, who laid the foundation of the earth? scripture, Hebrews 1:10 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:"
now this, Zechariah 12:1 "The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him."
Dave, is the Lord, and the LORD who laid the foundation of the earth the same one person? yes or no...... (smile)...
101G.
DavidTree
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Modalism is unfoundedthe ONLY First, the LORD, Jesus the HOLY SPIRIT, the ONE and ONLY PERSON, GOD. and if you didn't understand God is the "HE"..... (smile).
Now did the Lord Jesus say "WHICH ONE?" no he said HE, HE, HE, who is God, according to Mark 10:6..... (smile)..... your three person are eliminated.
and if you want to KNOW which one, LISTEN again. Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"
LISTEN, the HE was "ALONE", and "BY Himself". so there is no which one...... LOL, LOL, there is no choice, .... (smile),
101G.
THREE is CLEAR as DAY beginning in GENESIS = Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness.
DavidTree
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and if you want to KNOW which one, LISTEN again. Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"the ONLY First, the LORD, Jesus the HOLY SPIRIT, the ONE and ONLY PERSON, GOD. and if you didn't understand God is the "HE"..... (smile).
Now did the Lord Jesus say "WHICH ONE?" no he said HE, HE, HE, who is God, according to Mark 10:6..... (smile)..... your three person are eliminated.
and if you want to KNOW which one, LISTEN again. Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"
LISTEN, the HE was "ALONE", and "BY Himself". so there is no which one...... LOL, LOL, there is no choice, .... (smile),
101G.
Do you believe this Scripture??? = 100% BELIEVE and not DOUBT ???
If YES, then i will show you that you may SEE directly from the TRUTH
101G
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LOL, LOL, LOL, #1. so we can take this as you have no scripture to rebuke 101G.
#2. the US and OUR are not three, but one, Listen, Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
Dave, Dave, how many is He and Him? one person just like the Lord Jesus said. God is a He. so what you must do is go back and find out why God said US and OUR, and in the next verse said, God is a he and him. see, 101G knows, but you need to. so tell us how God went from a US and OUR to a He and His, and please use scripture to support your belies here as to who made man male and female.
101G.
101G
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Runningman
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Tanslation is wrong. Won't bother debating or explainign it to you. You'll for sure reject all and not even try to discuss it. You have your religion and that's that, but don't think your false gospel will ever make it past here. We Christians will do our best to stop your organization when we can.
101G
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there should be no debate. because "I AM" is a verb and not a noun. Exodus 3:14 "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."
I AM is: H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v.
1. to exist.
2. to be or become.
3. to come into being, i.e. to happen, to occur (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary).
[a primitive root]
KJV: beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use.
Compare: H1933
as a verb, God is IDENTIFIED as "WHAT" he is in NAME, and NOT "WHO" he is in Name. so I AM is not God personal Name.
101G.
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