Eternal Security

[Rowan]

"If I'm understanding you correctly though it seems you're implying when it says he'll cause to walk in his statues that you're imposing into the text a guarantee that this is the way if will go and men could never choose another way....that is from one who did receive his Spirit."

No, I'm not implying that God will cause all true believers to walk in His statues; but yes, I am affirming what we are clearly told in that verse of scripture. Therefore I obviously don't believe that I'm imposing anything on the text.

He causes us to walk in His statues by regenerating us into new creatures in Christ along with implementing the means by which He will make good on His promise to preserve us [both positive and negative means]. When a person is miraculously transformed into a new creature by the operation of the Holy Spirit, the result is that person's nature being altered in such a way that they will respond to God's various means to preserve them.

The case of a believer's preservation is not one in which a believer's ability to choose ["free will"] is obliterated subsequent to their regeneration. Rather, it's the result or consequence of the believer's miraculous and radical transformation into a new creation by the Holy Spirit along with God's implementation of His preservative means [both positive - blessings and negative - warnings and chastenings] that ensures no genuine believer of ever finally and forever falling [forfeiture of their salvation].

My OSAS Arminian position here incorporates the Molinist "can/won't" principle which asserts that although a genuine believer can finally and forever fall away [which asserts the possession free moral agency] ... not a single one of them actually will choose such a course of destruction. Just because a person possesses the ability to perform an action, that fact, in and by itself, in no way whatsoever necessitates any one of those persons to actually perform the action ; in other words, yes they can fall away ... and no, not one of them will actually and ultimately choose such a course of action.

And yeah ... I know .. Molinism scares a lot of people away since it's often so misunderstood and misrepresented ... but in the end, in my opinion, provides the most scripturally and intellectually satisfying answer concerning the "if's"... the warning passages. Consequently, most believers fight hard against anything that involves philosophical soteriology ... falsely assuming that all philosophy is necessarily "demonic" in nature ... therefore, I prefer to simply call it "reasoning" [Isaiah 1:18].

My OSAS Arminian position remains a minority position, and it's one that radically differs from the majority OSAS Calvinist viewpoint - in that the [consistent] Calvinist asserts that the various warning passages are not directed toward genuine believers .. but rather merely professing, counterfeit believers.

His love and all that he's done for us may cause us to walk in his statutes. He's our heavenly father of course we want to please him. We want to deny ourselves. We're to be living sacrifices. That thing they talk about "Walking down the aisle and praying a prayer so you can get your fire insurance" Definitely won't work. You have to make Jesus Lord of your life. When we were slaves to sin that's all we wanted to do but we've been set for you. We have new priorities.

 

[Rockson]

No, I'm not implying that God will cause all true believers to walk in His statues; but yes, I am affirming what we are clearly told in that verse of scripture. Therefore I obviously don't believe that I'm imposing anything on the text.

First I commend you on your wanting to affirm what you consider to be a clear interpretation of scripture. Can't fault you for that. As stated prior though we shouldn't build a theological construct out of one verse of scripture. Other verses and passages have a right for their voice to be heard on the subject such as Jn 8,...2 Pt 2.... Col 1:22...Heb 6:5....Rev 3: 16 and more besides. Ezekiel 36 was really introduction into something God was going to do. It didn't give a complete picture of the new birth and every aspect of what it would all mean. The revelation of the NT develops it's meaning further.

When a person is miraculously transformed into a new creature by the operation of the Holy Spirit, the result is that person's nature being altered in such a way that they will respond to God's various means to preserve them.

Forgive me but that sounds like Calvinism's irresistible grace and maybe that's what you are...a Calvinist I don't know. Thing is though RB that's not what the scriptures elsewhere seems to indicate.

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. Jn 15:6

For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2 Pt 2:20

The case of a believer's preservation is not one in which a believer's ability to choose ["free will"] is obliterated subsequent to their regeneration.

So you see why I wondered if you were a Calvinist. Free will gone doesn't exist anymore. And you would have to explain too then why wouldn't God just take that to the fulness.....you get born again you never ever can sin or will sin. Or you're saying mankind has free will to a certain point? Can't you see it just doesn't add up?

My OSAS Arminian position remains a minority position, and it's one that radically differs from the majority OSAS Calvinist viewpoint - in that the [consistent] Calvinist asserts that the various warning passages are not directed toward genuine believers .. but rather merely professing, counterfeit believers.

And I hear what you're saying that so many just think warning scripures are speaking to counterfeit believers.....but it just can't. And here's why, look at the verse of 2 Pt 2:20 above. It states some believers escaped the pollutions of this world but they allowed themselves later to be overcome by them. You're not going to have been in a state where you've overcome sin without having been regenerated. For such ones who would go so far that they would lose their salvation it states it would be better off if they had not known of the way of righteousness to begin with. To have escaped pollutions takes one out and beyond just knowing about it. They experienced it.

 

[Rockson]

The absolute forgiveness of our sins is just as rock solid as the historic reality of Christ’s death.

First I like the name you've chosen for yourself on here....Traditional....sounds neat.
I do agree with your statement above.

It is important that we grasp this wonderful truth of the gospel because we can face our sins only when we know they are forgiven. Jesus is the Rock. The Hebrew word for "Rock" indicates firmness, stability, and faithfulness. What would it be like to worship a God whose "truth" changed from time to time? Could such a God be trusted?

I fail to see though how not believing in OSAS is a given that you can't believe your sins are forgiven.

He tells us that he came to give us eternal life but if we could lose that eternal life that he's given us then something must have changed that could make us lose our trust in him.

I fail to see why. Two ways one can consider eternal life....it being the life, love and nature of God...the type of LIFE it is. Three types of life in the Greek....physical life, bios......soul life, psuche.....or zoe the eternal divine life of God. (not speaking of eternal in length but the type of life it is)

But even if we go with eternal as in length.....still doesn't mean our actions could forfeit us from the blessing. Remember when you've come to Jesus you;ve said you've made him the Lord of your life. You've been given eternal life that on that condition. Why should you think the blessing remains if one has reneged on the commitment they gave in the first place?

If he said it was eternal but then we find out it's not really that eternal. See the dilemma?

So maybe the best way to answer this is to say Jesus insisted to receive from a believer an eternal commitment to him as well. If one has pulled back from it.....what....they get the blessing anyway?

On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand: all other ground is sinking sand We want to be on the solid rock of eternal security.

Then why not be on the eternal rock of commitment and having Jesus Lord? That would be what the Lord said, continuing, remaining and abiding. Keep showing God that eternal commitment and he will show you the eternal thing you want.

All other ground is shifting sand.

And that's exactly what it is.

In order for us to understand this we need to see the cleansing from sin’s power in two stages. The first is deliverance from the dominion or reigning power of sin that is decisive and complete for all believers. The fact that we've been set free from the power of sin and death,

Agreed but that's as far as God is concerned. The question is are we going to walk in that or not? There's no guarantee we will for if there was he wouldn't say walk unto the Lord with all pleasing. Col 1:10 If it's automatic there's no need for the request.

Paul writes that we “died to sin,” and “we have died with Christ.” Through our union with Christ in His death, we have died not only to sin’s guilt but also to its reigning power in our lives. This is true of every believer and is accomplished at the time of our salvation when God delivers us from the domain of darkness and transfers us to the kingdom of His Son.

But you have to decide you're going to walk in the light as he's in the light. What you're saying is very true for one who has to chosen they're going to seek to do that. Unfortunately some choose rather to stop identifying with the things you
you've stated above. If they decide to lose a passion to mortify the flesh and chose to stop allowing their place in Christ to change them.....doesn't matter how much God has legally done for them. If they fall back and give it up entirely in walking in it none of the identification things will continue to matter. See again Jn 15:6

 

[Handaan]

What do you mean by the term "works salvarion"?

The Bible clearly teaches obedience to God's will is how men are saved (Rom 6:16; Heb 5:9; Acts 2:38; etc) for no verse teaches those who live in disobedience to God's will will be saved.

That's probably one of the best definitions for work salvation I've ever seen.

 

[TibiasDad]

Scripture is clear that a saved person can never be lost. It is equally clear that a genuine Christian will never fall back into total unbelief. That kind of apostasy proves an individual was never really born again.

This is a circular argument! It’s also a rather foggy one as well. Pray tell how one can determine what someone believes or disbelieves.

I am often drawn to Paul’s words to Timothy about Demas in 2 Tim 4:10 saying, “for Demas, because he loved this world, has deserted me and has gone to Thessalonica”, and John says,”If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. (1 John 2:15)

So one would think that Paul would have had enough spiritual insight to know if someone was a true believer to work with him in the ministry, and Demas left the ministry, and by implication the faith, because “he loved the world”, and to “love the world” means there is no love for the Father. Does that sound like he still believed?


Doug

 

[civic]

First I commend you on your wanting to affirm what you consider to be a clear interpretation of scripture. Can't fault you for that. As stated prior though we shouldn't build a theological construct out of one verse of scripture. Other verses and passages have a right for their voice to be heard on the subject such as Jn 8,...2 Pt 2.... Col 1:22...Heb 6:5....Rev 3: 16 and more besides. Ezekiel 36 was really introduction into something God was going to do. It didn't give a complete picture of the new birth and every aspect of what it would all mean. The revelation of the NT develops it's meaning further.

Forgive me but that sounds like Calvinism's irresistible grace and maybe that's what you are...a Calvinist I don't know. Thing is though RB that's not what the scriptures elsewhere seems to indicate.

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. Jn 15:6

For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2 Pt 2:20


So you see why I wondered if you were a Calvinist. Free will gone doesn't exist anymore. And you would have to explain too then why wouldn't God just take that to the fulness.....you get born again you never ever can sin or will sin. Or you're saying mankind has free will to a certain point? Can't you see it just doesn't add up?

And I hear what you're saying that so many just think warning scripures are speaking to counterfeit believers.....but it just can't. And here's why, look at the verse of 2 Pt 2:20 above. It states some believers escaped the pollutions of this world but they allowed themselves later to be overcome by them. You're not going to have been in a state where you've overcome sin without having been regenerated. For such ones who would go so far that they would lose their salvation it states it would be better off if they had not known of the way of righteousness to begin with. To have escaped pollutions takes one out and beyond just knowing about it. They experienced it.

Yes it reminded me of me for decades lol

 

[Rapture Bound]

First I commend you on your wanting to affirm what you consider to be a clear interpretation of scripture. Can't fault you for that. As stated prior though we shouldn't build a theological construct out of one verse of scripture. Other verses and passages have a right for their voice to be heard on the subject such as Jn 8,...2 Pt 2.... Col 1:22...Heb 6:5....Rev 3: 16 and more besides. Ezekiel 36 was really introduction into something God was going to do. It didn't give a complete picture of the new birth and every aspect of what it would all mean. The revelation of the NT develops it's meaning further.

Forgive me but that sounds like Calvinism's irresistible grace and maybe that's what you are...a Calvinist I don't know. Thing is though RB that's not what the scriptures elsewhere seems to indicate.

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. Jn 15:6

For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2 Pt 2:20


So you see why I wondered if you were a Calvinist. Free will gone doesn't exist anymore. And you would have to explain too then why wouldn't God just take that to the fulness.....you get born again you never ever can sin or will sin. Or you're saying mankind has free will to a certain point? Can't you see it just doesn't add up?

And I hear what you're saying that so many just think warning scripures are speaking to counterfeit believers.....but it just can't. And here's why, look at the verse of 2 Pt 2:20 above. It states some believers escaped the pollutions of this world but they allowed themselves later to be overcome by them. You're not going to have been in a state where you've overcome sin without having been regenerated. For such ones who would go so far that they would lose their salvation it states it would be better off if they had not known of the way of righteousness to begin with. To have escaped pollutions takes one out and beyond just knowing about it. They experienced it.

"Forgive me but that sounds like Calvinism's irresistible grace and maybe that's what you are...a Calvinist I don't know. Thing is though RB that's not what the scriptures elsewhere seems to indicate."

Rockson - your statement almost sounds as if you didn't even read my post. My position is that of an OSAS [ Molinist] Arminian ... a position that radically differs from Calvinism on the issue of irresistible grace[ as well as many other soteriological matters].

 

[Hosanna]

The jury just came in with their verdict. It's you can't lose your salvation because your eternally secure. Debate over.

 

[Rockson]

The jury just came in with their verdict. It's you can't lose your salvation because your eternally secure. Debate over.

I think with this debate theme we can be a lot more gracious with each other than one might think. I recall hearing this one time. They said OSAS? I never really think about it. They compared to thinking about divorcing their wife.....they said I'm don't think about that and as far as I'm concerned never will. I'm committed, (they said) to stay faithful. So.....lets put it this way.....if you're committed to stay faithful to God you never have to worry about it at all and not to even think about it.

If however you are thinking about being unfaithful....well maybe then you should give it some thought.

 

[Hosanna]

I think with this debate theme we can be a lot more gracious with each other than one might think. I recall hearing this one time. They said OSAS? I never really think about it. They compared to thinking about divorcing their wife.....they said I'm don't think about that and as far as I'm concerned never will. I'm committed, (they said) to stay faithful. So.....lets put it this way.....if you're committed to stay faithful to God you never have to worry about it at all and not to even think about it.

If however you are thinking about being unfaithful....well maybe then you should give it some thought.

John 3:16 Makes it clear.

In 1 Corinthians 13:8, Paul makes a simple but profound statement about God’s love: "Love never fails" That makes me think of our Redemption and our sanctification. I think once we're in a loving relationship with our heavenly father that love never fails and it goes both ways.

Paul reminds us here about the strength and power of God’s love. He is describing the deep and abiding love God has for His people, an affection that is unending and unbreakable.

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 8:38-39 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

 

[Seabass]

That's probably one of the best definitions for work salvation I've ever seen.

The Bible does teach obedient works (Heb 5:9; 2 Thess 1;8) are necessary to being saved for the unrighteous, rebellious disobedient are lost.

 

[Hosanna]

This is a circular argument! It’s also a rather foggy one as well. Pray tell how one can determine what someone believes or disbelieves.

Doug

You will know them by their fruit Matthew 7:20

Fruit is the outward expression that we are true followers of Jesus Christ. Without a doubt, Jesus expects us to bear fruit in our lives—the fruit of His likeness.

 

[civic]

The jury just came in with their verdict. It's you can't lose your salvation because your eternally secure. Debate over.

Unfortunately this debate will never be over just like the Calvinist/Arminian debate will never be over and the end times different views will never be over. The debate about the Trinity and Deity of Christ will never be over on this side of the grave and the faith/works debate as well. We will always have them until we go to be with the Lord and in other cases the unbelievers who will be without the Lord in eternal torment with the rest of the wicked. Even that will continue to be debated by those who reject that biblical doctrine of the punishment of the wicked.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Hosanna]

I must agree that's the nature of the beast. I just thought I'd throw a little humor in there.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

I would like to offer any input I might have when I catch up reading the perspective of the posters.
Blessings

 

[Hosanna]

‘Salvation is by means of obedience to the Gospel system, involving faith in God and Christ, repentance from sin, confession of faith, and immersion in water for remission of past sins, coupled with a life of growing consecration and dedication.’ Not!

In all honesty, when I read Scripture I do not get that ‘salvation’ has anything whatsoever to do with a ‘Gospel system’ or ‘obedience’ thereof.

Surely you cannot mean that our deeds and works can make us righteous or clean in the eyes of a perfect and entirely Holy God? Moreover, we cannot follow any kind of a ‘system’ or formula, regardless of how good it may be.

Only Christ and His completed sacrifice, once for all, can save those who believe in Him, His Word, and His Resurrection. I think the most simple and direct quotes on how Salvation is ‘achieved’ (really awarded is the better and most accurate word) is from Romans and Acts.

So faith comes by hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the preaching [of the message that came from the lips] of Christ (the Messiah Himself). Romans 10:17

34 And Peter opened his mouth and said: Most certainly and thoroughly I now perceive and understand that God shows no partiality and is no respecter of persons,
35 But in every nation he who venerates and has a reverential fear for God, treating Him with worshipful obedience and living uprightly, is acceptable to Him and sure of being received and welcomed [by Him].
36 You know the contents of the message which He sent to Israel, announcing the good news (Gospel) of peace by Jesus Christ, Who is Lord of all—
37 The [same] message which was proclaimed throughout all Judea, starting from Galilee after the baptism preached by John—
38 How God anointed and consecrated Jesus of Nazareth with the [Holy] Spirit and with strength and ability and power; how He went about doing good and, in particular, curing all who were harassed and oppressed by [the power of] the devil, for God was with Him.
39 And we are [eye and ear] witnesses of everything that He did both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem. And [yet] they put Him out of the way (murdered Him) by hanging Him on a tree;
40 But God raised Him to life on the third day and caused Him to be manifest (to be plainly seen),
41 Not by all the people but to us who were chosen (designated) beforehand by God as witnesses, who ate and drank with Him after He arose from the dead.
42 And He charged us to preach to the people and to bear solemn testimony that He is the God-appointed and God-ordained Judge of the living and the dead.
43 To Him all the prophets testify (bear witness) that everyone who believes in Him [who adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Him, giving himself up to Him] receives forgiveness of sins through His name.
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all who were listening to the message.
45 And the believers from among the circumcised [the Jews] who came with Peter were surprised and amazed, because the free gift of the Holy Spirit had been bestowed and poured out largely even on the Gentiles.
46 For they heard them talking in [unknown] tongues (languages) and extolling and magnifying God.
Acts 10:34–46

 

[Doug Brents]

In all honesty, when I read Scripture I do not get that ‘salvation’ has anything whatsoever to do with a ‘Gospel system’ or ‘obedience’ thereof.

Surely you cannot mean that our deeds and works can make us righteous or clean in the eyes of a perfect and entirely Holy God? Moreover, we cannot follow any kind of a ‘system’ or formula, regardless of how good it may be.

Agreed 100%. There is no action we can do that can merit salvation, or make us good enough for God to afford us Righteousness. Just as there is no act a person can do to make a 1/4 cup bottle of oil pour out enough oil to fill every jar, cup, bottle, bowl, bucket, or other container that we own or can borrow from every friend we know. Yet, that is what happened to a person because of her faith in the prophet who commanded it. And if she could have borrowed more containers, the oil would have poured until those were full too.

That is what salvation is like. We cannot do it ourselves, but God can, and He will, if we obey His command. The widow in question would probably have not had nearly enough oil if she had not borrowed the containers as instructed. But she did, and she filled all of them with oil. We will not receive the declaration of righteousness if we do not equally obey God's command to repent, and confess Jesus, and be baptized.

Only Christ and His completed sacrifice, once for all, can save those who believe in Him, His Word, and His Resurrection.

Again, this is true. The question is, How and When is the righteousness resulting from His fully completed sacrifice applied to each individual. And the answer to that is: Exactly when Scripture says it is (Col 2:11-14, Rom 6:1-4, 1 Pet 3:21, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16).

I think the most simple and direct quotes on how Salvation is ‘achieved’ (really awarded is the better and most accurate word) is from Romans and Acts.

So faith comes by hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the preaching [of the message that came from the lips] of Christ (the Messiah Himself). Romans 10:17

34 And Peter opened his mouth and said: Most certainly and thoroughly I now perceive and understand that God shows no partiality and is no respecter of persons,
35 But in every nation he who venerates and has a reverential fear for God, treating Him with worshipful obedience and living uprightly, is acceptable to Him and sure of being received and welcomed [by Him].
36 You know the contents of the message which He sent to Israel, announcing the good news (Gospel) of peace by Jesus Christ, Who is Lord of all—
37 The [same] message which was proclaimed throughout all Judea, starting from Galilee after the baptism preached by John—
38 How God anointed and consecrated Jesus of Nazareth with the [Holy] Spirit and with strength and ability and power; how He went about doing good and, in particular, curing all who were harassed and oppressed by [the power of] the devil, for God was with Him.
39 And we are [eye and ear] witnesses of everything that He did both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem. And [yet] they put Him out of the way (murdered Him) by hanging Him on a tree;
40 But God raised Him to life on the third day and caused Him to be manifest (to be plainly seen),
41 Not by all the people but to us who were chosen (designated) beforehand by God as witnesses, who ate and drank with Him after He arose from the dead.
42 And He charged us to preach to the people and to bear solemn testimony that He is the God-appointed and God-ordained Judge of the living and the dead.
43 To Him all the prophets testify (bear witness) that everyone who believes in Him [who adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Him, giving himself up to Him] receives forgiveness of sins through His name.
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all who were listening to the message.
45 And the believers from among the circumcised [the Jews] who came with Peter were surprised and amazed, because the free gift of the Holy Spirit had been bestowed and poured out largely even on the Gentiles.
46 For they heard them talking in [unknown] tongues (languages) and extolling and magnifying God.
Acts 10:34–46

If these were the only passages that mentioned salvation in any way, I would agree with you. But since ALL Scripture must be equally considered, we must not leave out passages like those listed above. There are physical actions that are REQUIRED before salvation is received (Rom 10:9-10 is one example), and every one of them must be fulfilled. If they are not and salvation is still received, then some Scriptures would be made into a lie.

For example: if salvation is received when a person simply believes (as John 3:16 states), then Rom 10:9-10 is made into a lie (because it says that salvation is received as a result of confessing with the mouth that Jesus is Lord). But if salvation is received just on the basis of repentance and belief, then Acts 2:38, Acts 3:19, and Mark 16:16 are made into lies because they place other conditions on the reception of salvation. All of these conditions must be met, or Scripture is not fulfilled.

 

[Tranquil]

For example: if salvation is received when a person simply believes (as John 3:16 states), then Rom 10:9-10 is made into a lie (because it says that salvation is received as a result of confessing with the mouth that Jesus is Lord). But if salvation is received just on the basis of repentance and belief, then Acts 2:38, Acts 3:19, and Mark 16:16 are made into lies because they place other conditions on the reception of salvation. All of these conditions must be met, or Scripture is not fulfilled.

In order to confess with your mouth you have to believe. Otherwise you're a liar.

 

[TibiasDad]

You will know them by their fruit Matthew 7:20

Fruit is the outward expression that we are true followers of Jesus Christ. Without a doubt, Jesus expects us to bear fruit in our lives—the fruit of His likeness.

Fair enough, but my point is that we cannot tell, at least not in a definitive way at first, if someone has truly believed. Charles Templeton preach with Billy Graham for years but died an atheist! I have trouble thinking that he never really believed. We cannot logically say that he didn’t believe or couldn’t have really believed. Only God knows the heart. To say that one who falls away at the end could not have been really saved is both a circular argument and something impossible for a human being to assess.

Doug

 

[Doug Brents]

In order to confess with your mouth you have to believe. Otherwise you're a liar.

Absolutely. But as said, if salvation is received when a person simply believes (as John 3:16 states), then Rom 10:9-10 is made into a lie (because it says that salvation is received as a result of confessing with the mouth that Jesus is Lord), and we can both agree (I hope you agree) that Scripture never lies. So every one of the conditions upon which salvation is based (hearing the Word, belief of it, repentance of sin, confession of Jesus as Lord, and baptism in water) all must be accomplished for all Scripture relating to salvation to be fulfilled.