It's also God's will that all are saved. Does that mean that all will be saved?The moment you believe, you are secure forever. Once a person believes, he is God’s forever.
What Jesus’ promises us holds true. Once we partake of the bread of life, that is, once we believe in Him, we “will never hunger” John 6:35 The one who “lives and believes in Jesus shall never die” John 11:26
In John 6:39–40 Jesus said:
This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
If anyone who believed in Jesus ever failed to make it into heaven, then Jesus will have failed to do the will of the Father! It isn’t that we need to stay faithful to keep eternal life. It is that He needs to stay faithful for us to keep it. And, of course, He will.
Right! Once a person believes in Jesus, he is secure forever. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, a born-again person can do to cause himself to lose everlasting life, or to prove he never had it.The moment you believe, you are secure forever. Once a person believes, he is God’s forever.
What Jesus’ promises us holds true. Once we partake of the bread of life, that is, once we believe in Him, we “will never hunger” John 6:35 The one who “lives and believes in Jesus shall never die” John 11:26
In John 6:39–40 Jesus said:
This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
If anyone who believed in Jesus ever failed to make it into heaven, then Jesus will have failed to do the will of the Father! It isn’t that we need to stay faithful to keep eternal life. It is that He needs to stay faithful for us to keep it. And, of course, He will.
Phoebe,Right! Once a person believes in Jesus, he is secure forever. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, a born-again person can do to cause himself to lose everlasting life, or to prove he never had it.
We are not regenerated because we have eternal faith. We are born again because the Savior promised that the moment we believe in Him, we are eternally secure. Faith in an unfailing Savior guarantees eternal life even if the faith later fails.
Sure.Could you explain why,
Sure.Sure.
If our salvation is not secure, how could Jesus say about those to whom He gives eternal life, “and they shall never perish”?
And I give them eternal life, and they shall never lose it or perish throughout the ages. [To all eternity they shall never by any means be destroyed.] And no one is able to snatch them out of My hand.
John 10:28
If even one man or woman receives eternal life and then forfeits it through sin or apostasy, will they not perish? And by doing so, do they not make Jesus’ words a lie?
Can you explain this one?
The problem is that JESUS stated that salvation is a life-long process of obedience to Him.My experience has been that those who have problems with the doctrine of eternal security have a distorted understanding of what took place at the Cross. That may sound as if I am being critical. But in reality I am more puzzled than anything else.
When I think of Calvary, and the price that was paid to provide me with salvation, the thought of my having the power to undo all of that seems preposterous.
There is no possible "undoing" of the Atonement. It is complete and finished for the entire world. It's calvinists who say it's incomplete because it's only for the elect - not enough forgiveness to go around for everyone who repents. And to top it off, it's calvinists who believe in the eternal security of only the elected - that nobody possesses volitional free choice. One error built upon another error.My experience has been that those who have problems with the doctrine of eternal security have a distorted understanding of what took place at the Cross. That may sound as if I am being critical. But in reality I am more puzzled than anything else.
When I think of Calvary, and the price that was paid to provide me with salvation, the thought of my having the power to undo all of that seems preposterous.
Scared, insecure, works , fear, robbed of the love of God in a caring relationship.How would people live differently if eternal life could be lost?
Hmm?
Make sure you are living that way.
Of course we trust in Christ. Trust, believe, repent are all action words that we must do in order to be saved. God does not repent for you, you must do your own repenting. Without those actions, there is no salvation. In other words, our salvation is synergistic, not monergistic.Why should God let you into heaven? If your answer includes words such as try, my best, church, believe in God, Sunday school, teach, or give, chances are that you still haven’t come to grips with the simple truth that salvation is by faith alone.
Ephesians 2:9 affirms that salvation is “not by works so that no one should boast.” It is difficult to imagine the text being much clearer. Works are excluded as the basis of salvation so that people cannot boast that their deeds contributed to their inclusion in the people of God.
Let me ask the question another way. What are you trusting in to get you into heaven? Is it Christ plus something? Or can you say with confidence that your hope and your trust are in Christ and Christ alone?
Faith and repentance are distinct concepts, but they cannot occur independently of each other. Genuine repentance is always the flip side of faith; and true faith accompanies repentance. Grace leads to repentance.Of course we trust in Christ. Trust, believe, repent are all action words that we must do in order to be saved. God does not repent for you, you must do your own repenting. Without those actions, there is no salvation. In other words, our salvation is synergistic, not monergistic.
To repent, in relation to salvation, is to change your mind in regard to sin and Jesus Christ.Faith and repentance are distinct concepts, but they cannot occur independently of each other. Genuine repentance is always the flip side of faith; and true faith accompanies repentance. Grace leads to repentance.
Repentance (and belief) makes salvation synergistic, not monergistic.Faith and repentance are distinct concepts, but they cannot occur independently of each other. Genuine repentance is always the flip side of faith; and true faith accompanies repentance. Grace leads to repentance.
Scripture exhorts that salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8-9). These bedrock truths are embraced in monergistic and synergistic theology alike, even as they diverge on whether this faith originates solely from God’s unilateral action or is in some manner cooperatively enacted by the believer.Of course we trust in Christ. Trust, believe, repent are all action words that we must do in order to be saved. God does not repent for you, you must do your own repenting. Without those actions, there is no salvation. In other words, our salvation is synergistic, not monergistic.
Not according to James or Paul. See James 2:24-26.Scripture exhorts that salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone,
Ephesians 2:9 is against works of the Law, not against the good works that God preordained for each one of us (Eph 2:10).in Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8-9).
Monergism says that God repents for you. I don't and can't believe that.These bedrock truths are embraced in monergistic and synergistic theology alike, even as they diverge on whether this faith originates solely from God’s unilateral action or is in some manner cooperatively enacted by the believer.
Of course Christ is the ultimate source. You wouldn't be Christian if you claimed another source. The question is what is Christ's instructions for salvation? Paul lays them out in Rom 10:8-13 as being synergistic with action words such as confess, believe, and call.When exploring monergism and synergism, it remains vital to hold fast to the overarching testimony of the Bible: the God who created all things opens a path of salvation exclusively through Jesus Christ (John 14:6). Trusting in this divine plan compels believers to humbly exult in the grace that rescues and to actively respond in faith, bearing fruit in obedience. As these doctrines have been discussed throughout church history, they have repeatedly driven home the central truth that Christ Himself is the ultimate source of redemption for everyone who believes (Romans 1:16-17).
Whoever claims that needs to prove that. That is the litmus test. So, can you please proceed to "demonstrate," and to "prove" to us all the works that you've done so that you can be "justified" according to this article's definition of justification? The author of the article didn't so I'm not expecting anything different from anyone else who believes what he wrote.What does James 2:24 mean?
James is using the word justified to mean “being demonstrated and proved.”