The Eternal Son

[praise_yeshua]

Complete FALSEHOOD

You need to hit the BREAKS right here and turn back to TRUTH

Don't get angry. You're repeating what you've heard. I've ask you a question you can't answer. Find the answer.

Animals were not created in the image of God = animals do not have a spirit
As @civic would say: next fallacy

Prove it. There is only one verse you can appeal to and I'm already ahead of you on this. It doesn't say what tradition teaches.

I'll ask again. What right did Adam have to Eternal life?

Please consider what the writer of Hebrews says.....

Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

 

[DavidTree]

Don't get angry. You're repeating what you've heard. I've ask you a question you can't answer. Find the answer.



Prove it. There is only one verse you can appeal to and I'm already ahead of you on this. It doesn't say what tradition teaches.

I'll ask again. What right did Adam have to Eternal life?

Please consider what the writer of Hebrews says.....

Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Don't get angry.

i am not angry

You're repeating what you've heard

CORRECT = i am repeating what i have heard from the Holy Spirit

I'll ask again. What right did Adam have to Eternal life?

#1 - Only sin prevents a person from eternal life = Genesis, Moses/Law, OT Prophets, GOSPEL, NT Writers/Apostles

#2 - God offered Adam & Eve eternal life = Genesis

And the LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and He clothed them.

Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil. And now, lest he reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever...”

Therefore the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.
So He drove out the man and stationed cherubim on the east side of the Garden of Eden, along with a whirling sword of flame to guard the way to the tree of life.

 

[Runningman]

You believe you're just like Jesus. You're not. Not even close.



You're mediator of nothing. So why is Jesus different than you?

Humans like Moses and Jesus can mediate between God and men.

Galatians 3
19Why then was the law given? It was added because of transgressions, until the arrival of the seed to whom the promise referred. It was administered through angels by a mediator.

 

[praise_yeshua]

i am not angry


CORRECT = i am repeating what i have heard from the Holy Spirit

What does the Holy Spirit sound like? Please explain. I've heard people say this my entire life and they all contradict one another. I image sometimes that God grows weary of all his children claiming He said something He didn't. The longsuffering of God.

#1 - Only sin prevents a person from eternal life = Genesis, Moses/Law, OT Prophets, GOSPEL, NT Writers/Apostles

Then why do you have Eternal life? I know I wouldn't have Eternal life if such depended upon me sinning or not sinning. Adam was placed in an impossible situation with an independent mind that could act contrary to God.

Do you plan to have that problem throughout this "Eternal Life" you possess or are you going to be changed? I know I am. How about you?

#2 - God offered Adam & Eve eternal life = Genesis

And the LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and He clothed them.

Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil. And now, lest he reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever...”

Therefore the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.
So He drove out the man and stationed cherubim on the east side of the Garden of Eden, along with a whirling sword of flame to guard the way to the tree of life.

I don't see the offer. Please point it out to me please! God drove Adam and Eve away from the tree of life.

As I've said many times before here, Adam proved he wasn't impeccable by sinning. Adam wasn't what you and others claim he was. Adam was weak. Adam was taken from dust. The very ashes of destruction. Marred in the hands of the potter. Weak. Incapable of helping himself.

Is the potter to blame or was the vessel (flesh) Adam was created from incapable/weak an unable to hold up to the refining process necessary for "pottery"?

I ask you to reconsider what you think you know. Just consider this one thing for me.....

If Adam was perfect and complete in having Eternal life, then why did Adam need Eve?

Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Do you notice the phrase "not good" in Genesis 2:18?

 

[praise_yeshua]

Humans like Moses and Jesus can mediate between God and men.

Galatians 3
19Why then was the law given? It was added because of transgressions, until the arrival of the seed to whom the promise referred. It was administered through angels by a mediator.

Like I said. You're the mediator of nothing. Appealing to better men than yourself doesn't help YOU!!!!!!

There is only ONE mediator of the new covenant written in the blood and death of Jesus Christ. Not you. Not anyone else. Not Moses. Not ANYONE ELSE.

Jesus is better than Moses. Better than you. Better than all others. Yet, here you are dishonoring Him while insisting you're like Him. You're not. You have no life without Him.

1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

What a pathetic example you pretend to be of representing God.

Lining you up right beside Jesus Christ and no one is paying attention to your glory. You have none.

Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

 

[Runningman]

Like I said. You're the mediator of nothing. Appealing to better men than yourself doesn't help YOU!!!!!!

There is only ONE mediator of the new covenant written in the blood and death of Jesus Christ. Not you. Not anyone else. Not Moses. Not ANYONE ELSE.

Jesus is better than Moses. Better than you. Better than all others. Yet, here you are dishonoring Him while insisting you're like Him. You're not. You have no life without Him.

1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

What a pathetic example you pretend to be of representing God.

Lining you up right beside Jesus Christ and no one is paying attention to your glory. You have none.

Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Strawman argument. I have never claimed to be a mediator between God and anyone, but Jesus is a type of Moses as they are compared with each other repeatedly in the Bible.

Actually, Jesus is compared to everyone in the world because he shares a common ground with them as a man descended from Adam who was tempted in every way as we are. While it's true God and Jesus have several things in common, it's also true that humans in general have something in common with God, being made in His image, able to be perfect as He is perfect, and holy as He is holy.

Yet it is equally true that there are a lot of things that Jesus and God do not have in common. Some of those things are divine characteristics and over a dozen/names and titles.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Strawman argument. I have never claimed to be a mediator between God and anyone, but Jesus is a type of Moses as they are compared with each other repeatedly in the Bible.

Actually, Jesus is compared to everyone in the world because he shares a common ground with them as a man descended from Adam who was tempted in every way as we are. While it's true God and Jesus have several things in common, it's also true that humans in general have something in common with God, being made in His image, able to be perfect as He is perfect, and holy as He is holy.

Yet it is equally true that there are a lot of things that Jesus and God do not have in common. Some of those things are divine characteristics and over a dozen/names and titles.

It isn't a straw man argument to rightfully recognize your claim to be equal to Jesus when you're not like Jesus. No one is exactly like Jesus. Your claims are bogus and deceptively childish. You can't be like Jesus. You can't even be like Moses.