The Eternal Son

[DavidTree]

Have you every tried to "play back" a melody before? I enjoy music. I play a few instruments myself. I'm not as good as I once was due to some nerve issues in my arm but I do still "hear music" as well as I ever have.

Sometimes we think we really know a melody and we don't. At least not as well as we can. It is experience that builds such in our lives. Experience is essential to understanding.

Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Senses must be exercised. Senses must be "honed". This never ends in our life here.

Have you ever considered that is actually what God was doing when He created Adam and Eve? God was put them in a environment where it was essential for them to learn their surroundings.

God didn't Adam nor Eve with absolute knowledge. They had to learn through experience. God designed us this way for at least one reason. This thought has "flavored" my theology for a long time.

We only value what we learn through experience. We often ignore what we're told until we experience it first hand. Seeking is what opens the door. Living is what makes it real to us. Until we do, it is nothing more than someone else's.......

We must own such or we can't love it. It is nothing more than conjecture to us until it is experienced.

Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Senses must be exercised. Senses must be "honed". This never ends in our life here.

And thus why many cannot understand, though they try very hard thru intellectual apparatus of religion and institutions.

As evidenced on these forums, few are willing to have their spiritual senses trained.
Trusting in religion and the majority rule is where most christians dwell under.

 

[DavidTree]

Ever heard of a geneology before? It says Jesus is descended from Adam who is the Son of God.

Luke 3
23Jesus Himself was about thirty years old when He began His ministry.
He was regarded as the son of Joseph,
the son of Heli,
24the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi,
the son of Jannai, the son of Joseph,
25the son of Mattathias, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum,
the son of Esli, the son of Naggai,
26the son of Maath, the son of Mattathias, the son of Semein,
the son of Josech, the son of Joda,
27the son of Joanan, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel,
the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri,
28the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam,
the son of Elmadam, the son of Er,
29the son of Joshua, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim,
the son of Matthat, the son of Levi,
30the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph,
the son of Jonam, the son of Eliakim,
31the son of Melea, the son of Menna, the son of Mattatha,
the son of Nathan, the son of David,
32the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz,
the son of Sala,e the son of Nahshon,
33the son of Amminadab, the son of Admin,f the son of Arni,g
the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah,
34the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham,
the son of Terah, the son of Nahor,
35the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg,
the son of Eber, the son of Shelah,
36the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem,
the son of Noah, the son of Lamech,
37the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared,
the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan,
38the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam,
the son of God.

I have the correct view of Jesus. You have made Jesus into an idol. Repent.

What is the correct view of Jesus?

 

[praise_yeshua]

And thus why many cannot understand, though they try very hard thru intellectual apparatus of religion and institutions.

As evidenced on these forums, few are willing to have their spiritual senses trained.
Trusting in religion and the majority rule is where most christians dwell under.

I'm all for reason. Even God told Israel "let us reason together".

Without faith nothing goes anywhere. Seeking requires faith. Faith gives us the assurance that what we are seeking is real and that God rewards us for our search.

Many don't seek it by faith. Sometimes faith ... real tangible and meaningful faith in God begins with admitting we just don't know something. Everyone thinks they know something and few want to know where they are wrong. What often is worse is commiting to a belief to the point of never questioning it again. Questions are good. They build certainty. Questions get answered.

 

[DavidTree]

I'm all for reason. Even God told Israel "let us reason together".

Without faith nothing goes anywhere. Seeking requires faith. Faith gives us the assurance that what we are seeking is real and that God rewards us for our search.

Many don't seek it by faith. Sometimes faith ... real tangible and meaningful faith in God begins with admitting we just don't know something. Everyone thinks they know something and few want to know where they are wrong. What often is worse is commiting to a belief to the point of never questioning it again. Questions are good. They build certainty. Questions get answered.

Questions are good. They build certainty. Questions get answered.

Amen = Simple as 1,2,3

#1 - God calls us to find reason with HIM and His words and for the Purpose of Salvation = Isaiah 1:18

“Come now, let us reason together,” says the LORD. “Though your sins are like scarlet, they will be as white as snow; though they are as red as crimson, they will become like wool.

#2 - God also calls us to reason amongst ourselves/man to man = based on God's words = Acts 19:8

And Paul went into the synagogue and spoke boldly for three months, reasoning and persuading concerning the things of the
kingdom of God.

#3 - Human reasoning can leave us with the wrong answers = Matthew 16:8

But Jesus, being aware of it, said to them, “O you of little faith, why do you reason among yourselves because you have brought no bread?

 

[Runningman]

What is the correct view of Jesus?

Jesus is a man who was chosen, anointed, empowered, and exalted by God. There's a lot more to it than that, but that's the gist of it.

 

[Runningman]

Wrong, as always.

Luke 3:23​

“And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,”

But God was his Father! The "likeness of" sinful flesh (free from Adam's sinful flesh) came through being made of a woman through Mary his mother.

Galatians 4:4​

“But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,”

That's "only" idol that heaven will accept a man loving and worshipping!

Deuteronomy 5:7​

“Thou shalt have none other gods before me.”

1st Corinthians 8:4​

“As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.”

1st John 5:20​

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”

Scripture teaches there is no other God aside from the Father. You are not understanding any verses in their proper context.

John 17
3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.

1 Corinthians 8
6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we exist. And there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we exist.

 

[dwight92070]

Wrong, as always.

Luke 3:23​

“And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,”

But God was his Father! The "likeness of" sinful flesh (free from Adam's sinful flesh) came through being made of a woman through Mary his mother.

Galatians 4:4​

“But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,”

That's "only" idol that heaven will accept a man loving and worshipping!

Deuteronomy 5:7​

“Thou shalt have none other gods before me.”

1st Corinthians 8:4​

“As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.”

1st John 5:20​

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”

Where does the scripture say that the "likeness of sinful flesh" comes through a woman? Or a man?

 

[DavidTree]

Where does the scripture say that the "likeness of sinful flesh" comes through a woman? Or a man?

It comes thru either man or woman since both are in sinful flesh.
However,
from God's Authorized Judgment:
The difference is that man is the head of the woman
Adam was first created and the woman came from Adam = The man is the Head and Responsibility lies with him FIRST

This Foundation of Truth was firmly established by God in Genesis chapter 3