Eternal Security

[Doug Brents]

Sorry for the confusion. My point was at one time I believed Judas may have gone to heaven until I was shown otherwise.

No, Judas could not have gone to Heaven.

While he was repentant over having denied (and betrayed) Jesus, he committed another sin, murder of himself, and did not seek reconciliation. He could have been reconciled, just as Peter was, but he did not seek it, so he did not receive it.

 

[Rowan]

No, Judas could not have gone to Heaven.

While he was repentant over having denied (and betrayed) Jesus, he committed another sin, murder of himself, and did not seek reconciliation. He could have been reconciled, just as Peter was, but he did not seek it, so he did not receive it.

My guess is he didn't seek reconciliation because he didn't think it was available. He didn't believe Jesus was who He said He was.

When a person is called “son of perdition,” the connotation is that of a person in an unredeemable state, someone who is already damned while he is still alive.

A good picture of a person who is a “son of perdition” appears in Hebrews 6:4–8, which describes a person who, like Judas, has experienced a certain closeness to God and has a good understanding of salvation, but then denies it. Instead of bearing good fruit, he bears “thorns and thistles.” This is a person who sees the path to salvation, which is trusting in God’s grace to cover sin (Ephesians 2:8–9), and instead either flatly denies the existence of God or denies God’s gift of salvation, preferring to pay his own debt. Judas chose the second path, punishing himself by suicide instead of accepting grace.
Got?

 

[Redeemed]

I can think of no better bible texts that affirm the eternal security of our salvation than what Jude said:

“Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.”

Jude 1:24-25​

Jesus is the one that saved us and he'll be the one that keeps us.

 

[Obadiah]

I can think of no better bible texts that affirm the eternal security of our salvation than what Jude said:

“Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.”

Jude 1:24-25​

Jesus is the one that saved us and he'll be the one that keeps us.

He is definitely the one that saved us and the one that will keep us. Awesome, I just used that in another thread.

 

[TibiasDad]

I can think of no better bible texts that affirm the eternal security of our salvation than what Jude said:

“Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.”

Jude 1:24-25​

Jesus is the one that saved us and he'll be the one that keeps us.

That is a great passage; I recently preached from it! But it doesn’t say what you want it to say.

Notice, it specifically says “he is able to keep you from falling” but it doesn’t say that falling will not/cannot happen!

Falling is preventable but not falling can only be accomplished by keeping Peter’s exhortations in 2 Peter 1:
3His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

5For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; 6and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. 8For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed from their past sins.

10Therefore, my brothers and sisters, make every effort to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never stumble, 11and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus is able and to keep us from falling, but only as we “add to our faith…in increasing measure”. All who continue to believe are those who escape “the corruption in the world caused by evil desires” because they “participate in the divine nature” through which “His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.”

There is synergy in security; it doesn’t just happen. As we yield to him, he is able to keep us from falling by increasing in us his goodness, his knowledge, self control and perseverance, godliness, mutual affection and love.

I am assured that I will receive what he has promised, as long as I believe, for God, who does not lie, has promised it from before time began (see Titus 1:2) and “he who has promised is faithful and he will do it” (1 Thess 5:24).

Doug

 

[Redeemed]

That is a great passage; I recently preached from it! But it doesn’t say what you want it to say.

Notice, it specifically says “he is able to keep you from falling” but it doesn’t say that falling will not/cannot happen!

Falling is preventable but not falling can only be accomplished by keeping Peter’s exhortations in 2 Peter 1:
3His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

5For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; 6and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. 8For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed from their past sins.

10Therefore, my brothers and sisters, make every effort to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never stumble, 11and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus is able and to keep us from falling, but only as we “add to our faith…in increasing measure”. All who continue to believe are those who escape “the corruption in the world caused by evil desires” because they “participate in the divine nature” through which “His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.”

There is synergy in security; it doesn’t just happen. As we yield to him, he is able to keep us from falling by increasing in us his goodness, his knowledge, self control and perseverance, godliness, mutual affection and love.

I am assured that I will receive what he has promised, as long as I believe, for God, who does not lie, has promised it from before time began (see Titus 1:2) and “he who has promised is faithful and he will do it” (1 Thess 5:24).

Doug

Hi Doug thanks for the reply but I must respectfully disagree. Let's take it from the top. God is able, he doesn't need our help. We need his help. That's why Jesus left us the holy spirit to guide and direct us. Where to Hear and Obey. To be doers of the word and not hearers only. I call it being sold out for Jesus.

The definition of Able:
having the power, skill, means, or opportunity to do something.
"he was able to read Greek at the age of eight"

Now let's look at my proof text:

“Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.” Jude 1:24-25

The translation I used doesn't say fall it says stumble. (KJV does say fall) Now you know we're all going to stumble and fall. We all fall short of the glory of God. So how does God keep us from stumbling. You're post explained that quite well. For me the short way to say it is "Abide in Christ" Stick close to the shepherd. And like you pointed out believe that he will keep you. He said that he will not lose any of those that the father has given him.

Jude gives us the key “keep yourselves in God’s love” Jude 1:21, he also points out that it is God who keeps us. Our righteousness does not come from ourselves, but from God. We are to contend for the faith and persevere. But, ultimately, our security does not rest on us. We need not fear that we will fall away from God, for it is He who keeps us upright. We rely on His power, not our own.

Jude writes this as an encouragement. He warns believers to be steadfast and to live a holy life. And he reassures them that God is both willing and able to purify His children. True Christians will struggle with sin (1 John 1:8–9). We will fail. But we can trust that our God is faithful and able to keep us in His grip and to present us blameless before Himself (John 10:28–30; Romans 7–8; Philippians 1:6). Not only can He do this, but He does it with great joy. This is why we praise Him so greatly. Got?


Now if we do wander off from the herd the good shepherd will leave the 99 and go and get that one lost lamb and bring it back to the Sheep pen.

Bottom line is you're not going to lose your salvation and I'm not going to lose my salvation. Jesus has our back.

 

[civic]

I can think of no better bible texts that affirm the eternal security of our salvation than what Jude said:

“Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.”

Jude 1:24-25​

Jesus is the one that saved us and he'll be the one that keeps us.

Romans 8 affirms your Jude reference.

What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.

35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.

38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[Complete]

'Wherefore He (the Lord Jesus Christ')
is able also to save them to the uttermost
that come unto God by Him,
seeing He ever liveth to make intercession for them.'
(Heb 7:25)

Praise God!

 

[civic]

'Wherefore He (the Lord Jesus Christ')
is able also to save them to the uttermost
that come unto God by Him,
seeing He ever liveth to make intercession for them.'
(Heb 7:25)

Praise God!

Amen

 

[Doug Brents]

Romans 8 affirms your Jude reference.

What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.

35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.

38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Does God's Love in Christ equate to God's forgiveness and salvation? No. He loved us even while we were sinners, enemies, and condemned.
"But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

We cannot be separated from the LOVE of God, but we can lose our salvation if we cease walking in the Light (1 John 1:7). IF we walk in the Light, we are continually cleansed. But if we do NOT continue to walk in the Light, then we are not continually cleansed.

 

[TibiasDad]

Jude gives us the key “keep yourselves in God’s love” Jude 1:21, he also points out that it is God who keeps us. Our righteousness does not come from ourselves, but from God. We are to contend for the faith and persevere. But, ultimately, our security does not rest on us. We need not fear that we will fall away from God, for it is He who keeps us upright. We rely on His power, not our own.

I understand your point, my brother, but to me this is, logically, double speak. To say “keep yourself” only makes sense if there is an imperative, necessary element of the action to be accomplished by us.

But then to say that God himself does the keeping, completely aside of what we do, makes our actions seem irrelevant and unnecessary to accomplish the effect of “keeping”.

To me, you’re thinking completely disregards the sense of contingency in Peter’s language. “If you do these things, you will never stumble” can only mean “if” you don’t do these things, the opposite result will ensue.

Our relationship with God is a synergistic process. When we work in lockstep (Gal 5:25) with God, his power enables us to not stumble, because he keeps us from stumbling. As Peter says, “His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness” (2 Peter 1:3)

God has given us everything that we need, meaning as you say, that it is not our own righteousness or strength that affects the results, but we must avail ourselves of that which is given.

As for the meaning of Jude’s use of ἀπταίστους, Peter uses the same word, though he employs the negative μὴ πταίσητέ instead of the prefix “a”.
( Jude’s use only occurs once, and Peter’s usage is found five times, three times by James and once each by Paul and Peter.)

The word can mean “I stumble, fall, sin, err, transgress” (Strong), and carries the import of mistakes, human imperfections, deliberate sin, and falling into a place of loss, depending on the context.

Thayer says that one meaning is “b. to fall into misery, become wretched (often so in Greek writings): of the loss of salvation, 2 Peter 1:10.”

That Jude says God is “able” does not technically mean that it will necessarily happen, but only that it can! For instance, God is able to save, and will save- if and when we believe. Thus, He is able to keep us from πταίω, “if we do these things”, that is, if we add to our faith “in increasing measure” everything his power has given to us to be godly.

Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith, but we must fix our eyes upon him to experience his finishing. (Heb 12:2)


Doug

 

[Redeemed]

'Wherefore He (the Lord Jesus Christ')
is able also to save them to the uttermost
that come unto God by Him,
seeing He ever liveth to make intercession for them.'
(Heb 7:25)

Praise God!

Here's an analogy I've heard a long time ago that I like.

When Satan the accuser of the brethren comes before God and says "Look at that redeemed character, He's not much of a Christian look at all this stuff he pulls". Then Jesus "our advocate" Steps up and says yeah Dad but I died for him. Case dismissed.

What does it mean that Jesus is our Advocate? | GotQuestions.org

What does it mean that Jesus is our Advocate? In what ways is Jesus our Advocate before the Father?

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[Rockson]

Jude gives us the key “keep yourselves in God’s love” Jude 1:21, he also points out that it is God who keeps us.

Yes he adds on in verse 24, "Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you unblemished in His glorious presence, with great joy..."

OSAS would take the position (or so it seems to me) that yes you're exhorted to keep yourself in God's love but don't worry about it too much for after it states in 24 he Jesus will keep you from stumbling or failure. Now I admit they don't say the words, "don't worry about it too much" but when one takes the wraps off of what they say it still amounts to the same thing. In other words Jesus has got this.

But does it make sense the way they're saying it? I'd say not. I really don't think there's any great mystery to these two verses but you have to ask what comes first and what comes second. What comes first is verse, 21 "keep yourself in the love of God." If that was automatic and you''re just going to be in the love of God anyway then there would be no need to make the request. On condition therefore when you, and I repeat YOU keep yourself in the love of God then on that condition what is Jesus able to do. He's able to do verse `24 ...keep you.

Here's an analogy to consider. So many could be given. I'll pick this one.

COSOPT is a medicine that will keep one's eye pressure down. One however must apply it as a daily part of one's life if a doc say you need it. It will not however KEEP the pressure down if you don't do your part and first keep your instructions. The same with insulin. The same with anything. If you want to be kept (in the whatever blessing or benefit) it's not unheard of that you must keep something first. If you don't keep the whatever don't expect you'll be kept by the other ...not possible.

What is it that keeping oneself in the love of God will cause Jesus then to keep us? Simple. You're not getting into strife, you're not getting into unforgiveness you're not getting yourself into a position in which Satan can sift you like wheat. You keep yourself in the love of God by continually acknowledging who and what you are in Christ Jesus and it's you which puts forth the effort to fill yourself with God's word in which Heb 4: 12 says has the ability to strengthen you. You must however keep yourself in the love of God. If you do that yes Jesus in turn has the ability to keep you. If you don't however he can't. I know many would like all this to be automatic but it just isn't that way.

 

[Redeemed]

I understand your point, my brother, but to me this is, logically, double speak. To say “keep yourself” only makes sense if there is an imperative, necessary element of the action to be accomplished by us.

But then to say that God himself does the keeping, completely aside of what we do, makes our actions seem irrelevant and unnecessary to accomplish the effect of “keeping”.

To me, you’re thinking completely disregards the sense of contingency in Peter’s language. “If you do these things, you will never stumble” can only mean “if” you don’t do these things, the opposite result will ensue.

Our relationship with God is a synergistic process. When we work in lockstep (Gal 5:25) with God, his power enables us to not stumble, because he keeps us from stumbling. As Peter says, “His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness” (2 Peter 1:3)

God has given us everything that we need, meaning as you say, that it is not our own righteousness or strength that affects the results, but we must avail ourselves of that which is given.

As for the meaning of Jude’s use of ἀπταίστους, Peter uses the same word, though he employs the negative μὴ πταίσητέ instead of the prefix “a”.
( Jude’s use only occurs once, and Peter’s usage is found five times, three times by James and once each by Paul and Peter.)

The word can mean “I stumble, fall, sin, err, transgress” (Strong), and carries the import of mistakes, human imperfections, deliberate sin, and falling into a place of loss, depending on the context.

Thayer says that one meaning is “b. to fall into misery, become wretched (often so in Greek writings): of the loss of salvation, 2 Peter 1:10.”

That Jude says God is “able” does not technically mean that it will necessarily happen, but only that it can! For instance, God is able to save, and will save- if and when we believe. Thus, He is able to keep us from πταίω, “if we do these things”, that is, if we add to our faith “in increasing measure” everything his power has given to us to be godly.

Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith, but we must fix our eyes upon him to experience his finishing. (Heb 12:2)


Doug

I think we're pretty close in what we believe Doug just for a few points. I'm sorry the way I try to explain things sounds like double speak. I'll give it another shot. When many of the followers of Jesus turned back when he gave them the hard saying about eating his body and drinking his blood. They didn't understand that he would live in them and that they would live in his love.

I don't think they were true followers of Jesus Christ I think they were there for the free lunch. In the same holds true today the ones that successfully leave Christianity we're never truly saved to begin with.

If you're saved you're abiding in Christ. You're a believer. You're obedient to the word of God. You love God with your whole being. When you stop doing that when you want to go back to your old life the one you died to when you were born again. When you decide you want to undo what Jesus has done to give you salvation you're going to run into one problem. He doesn't let you go. The way that works was mentioned it in your post, And it's what I believe happens.

Thayer says that one meaning is “b. to fall into misery, become wretched

When you fall out of Fellowship you fall right into misery and as Paul says:

Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin. Romans 7:24-25

When you come to your senses I realize how miserable it is to be back trying to do life your way, you want to get back to your father's house.

So I think we agree in order to stay in a good relationship with God we strive to do the things you wrote about in your post. My point is when we stop doing those things and make a decision that we want to turn back, God will do what he does best... he'll love us and accomplish what is able, more than able to do. And that would be restored back into fellowship with him.

So let me try to clear up any of my doubles speak. When you do all the things that you mentioned in your post all the positive things to enjoy a good relationship with our heavenly father all is well. You will remain in fellowship with him.

On the other hand for whatever reason you decide to backslide and go do your own thing he makes your life miserable with the intent of you coming to your senses and returning and once again. Abide in Christ.

 

[Redeemed]

Yes he adds on in verse 24, "Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you unblemished in His glorious presence, with great joy..."

OSAS would take the position (or so it seems to me) that yes you're exhorted to keep yourself in God's love but don't worry about it too much for after it states in 24 he Jesus will keep you from stumbling or failure. Now I admit they don't say the words, "don't worry about it too much" but when one takes the wraps off of what they say it still amounts to the same thing. In other words Jesus has got this.

But does it make sense the way they're saying it? I'd say not. I really don't think there's any great mystery to these two verses but you have to ask what comes first and what comes second. What comes first is verse, 21 "keep yourself in the love of God." If that was automatic and you''re just going to be in the love of God anyway then there would be no need to make the request. On condition therefore when you, and I repeat YOU keep yourself in the love of God then on that condition what is Jesus able to do. He's able to do verse `24 ...keep you.

Here's an analogy to consider. So many could be given. I'll pick this one.

COSOPT is a medicine that will keep one's eye pressure down. One however must apply it as a daily part of one's life if a doc say you need it. It will not however KEEP the pressure down if you don't do your part and first keep your instructions. The same with insulin. The same with anything. If you want to be kept (in the whatever blessing or benefit) it's not unheard of that you must keep something first. If you don't keep the whatever don't expect you'll be kept by the other ...not possible.

What is it that keeping oneself in the love of God will cause Jesus then to keep us? Simple. You're not getting into strife, you're not getting into unforgiveness you're not getting yourself into a position in which Satan can sift you like wheat. You keep yourself in the love of God by continually acknowledging who and what you are in Christ Jesus and it's you which puts forth the effort to fill yourself with God's word in which Heb 4: 12 says has the ability to strengthen you. You must however keep yourself in the love of God. If you do that yes Jesus in turn has the ability to keep you. If you don't however he can't. I know many would like all this to be automatic but it just isn't that way.

That sounds right to me. God will make a way where there seems to be no way. The way to keep ourselves in God's love is to abide in him. Some translations say remain. Abide works better for me. Because to abide means to live in. You do that you're not going to want to stumble or fall or backslide or return to your old life. My point is that if for some reason we think going back to our old life is somehow beneficial, He will show us that it's not. Prodigal son.

 

[Ahar]

Here is a good point To consider.

What does it mean that God is able to keep us from falling (Jude 24)? | GotQuestions.org

What does it mean that God is able to keep us from falling? What does Jude verse 24 mean? How does God keep us from falling?

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[TibiasDad]

Here's an analogy I've heard a long time ago that I like.

When Satan the accuser of the brethren comes before God and says "Look at that redeemed character, He's not much of a Christian look at all this stuff he pulls". Then Jesus "our advocate" Steps up and says yeah Dad but I died for him. Case dismissed.

What does it mean that Jesus is our Advocate? | GotQuestions.org

What does it mean that Jesus is our Advocate? In what ways is Jesus our Advocate before the Father?

www.gotquestions.org

Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? (Heb 10:28-29)

Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. (Rom 8:12-13)

What we do matters! What we do affects the results.

Doug

 

[Rockson]

I think we're pretty close in what we believe Doug just for a few points. I'm sorry the way I try to explain things sounds like double speak. I'll give it another shot. When many of the followers of Jesus turned back when he gave them the hard saying about eating his body and drinking his blood. They didn't understand that he would live in them and that they would live in his love.

I don't think they were true followers of Jesus Christ I think they were there for the free lunch. In the same holds true today the ones that successfully leave Christianity we're never truly saved to begin with.

They were impacted by Christ's work with a fascination but none of them knew about salvation of what the exact message was going to be. But in your conversations here you're talking about Christians who have known about the cross and have received salvation as put forth by the gospel. Can those individuals fall from grace from a saved state?

If you're saved you're abiding in Christ.

One starts out that way yes. The question is does that guarantee they'll stay that way?

When you decide you want to undo what Jesus has done to give you salvation you're going to run into one problem. He doesn't let you go.

Angels left their first estate and how is it that you don't see that Christians aren't warrened that they could end up doing that to? 2 Pt 2:4

When you come to your senses I realize how miserable it is to be back trying to do life your way, you want to get back to your father's house.

So I think we agree in order to stay in a good relationship with God we strive to do the things you wrote about in your post. My point is when we stop doing those things and make a decision that we want to turn back, God will do what he does best... he'll love us and accomplish what is able, more than able to do. And that would be restored back into fellowship with him.

Then you would have it that God is willing to show more grace to one individual over another. If an unborn again sinner wants to stay in rebellion God does nothing. But if one which was saved chooses rebellion God won't allow him to stay this way?
We don't see this in the prodigal son story either. The father never went out to make his son do anything his inward desire didn't move him to do. The Father stayed at home. His son was away somewhere else.

 

[Grace ambassador]

op: Eternal Security?:

If The BLOOD Of God, The Saviour, is Insufficient, then "you" Will Have to "keep yourSELF!"

Since The BLOOD Of Jesus Christ, The Great God and Saviour, Is ALL-Sufficient, then:

"He (God) Keeps His Own By His Power!":​

Three Tenses Of God's Eternal Salvation are here: God's Simple Will!

 

[Nadab]

There is real security for every believer in Christ. It is not in some fanciful misreading of the doctrine of grace, eternal security is found in a vital, living relationship with God. The born again “child of God” no more fears being lost than he fears that he may deliberately commit suicide. He knows that he can, but he does not fear that he will. That is eternal security.

What if we stumble what if we fall, God has provided an instant and complete remedy: “My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world” 1 John 2:1

The security we enjoy in Christ doss not mean the absence of danger. A false security, denying the existence of danger, is the worst possible position to be in. Real security can exist only when there is an awareness of possible danger, and of the availability of resources to meet it. It is the one who “thinketh he standeth” who is in real danger of falling. 1 Corinthians 10:12