brightfame52
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Repentance,Faith, Confessing are Gifts from the Gift of Grace. None of those spiritual actions are of the natural man.
When Grace is not Grace
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brightfame52
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False, Grace, Christ Salvation isn't an offer, neither does Jn 3:16 states that it is.
brightfame52
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Sure He does, He is the author of it Heb 12:2
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
He gives it with repentance and forgiveness of sins Acts 5:31
31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
Thats His job as a Saviour !
You just say anything dont you ?
MTMattie
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16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Believes/Faith is a choice not a gift.
brightfame52
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False, John 3:16 doesnt say anything about faith/believing being a choice. Jesus gives Faith.
Behold
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Behold
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If God granted you faith, then God would not need to require it from you, as you'd have it already.
brightfame52
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Jesus doesnt require faith from the sinner, the sinner is dead in sin, Jesus gives faith to a sinner He saves.
MTMattie
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Oh brother. Where do you people dream this stuff up.Then does Jesus cherry pick who will be born again?
Behold
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I posted that God requires your faith.
You are teaching the heresy that a person is "born again in sin" FIRST>.... to then be given Faith, to believe in Jesus.
So, you are teaching that God joins Himself to a sinner, unforgiven... so that the unforgiven sinner can THEN be given Faith to believe in Jesus.
This is Theological insanity, and its a very satanic teaching.
Truly, a 6 yr old in Sunday School Class could understand that God has to forgive you all your sin, before He can save you...
The 6 yr olds could understand that the SINNER has to give God their FAITH in Christ....., before God can forgive them. .. and then gives them the new birth.
You can't understand this because once Calvinism owns your mind...then the revelation of "Grace through Faith", becomes twisted in your head.
Calvinism is a "doctrine of devils" and it has demonic power to blind the mind, so that the Calvinist can only see the NT verses through Calvin's Cross denying theology.. his Heresy.
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TibiasDad
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brightfame52
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Jesus gives faith to a sinner He saves.
brightfame52
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Repentance,Faith, Confessing are Gifts from the Gift of Grace. None of those spiritual actions are of the natural man.
Behold
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God requires Faith in Christ.
He is not looking for His... He is looking for yours .
God does not cause faith in you so that He can save you.....God accepts your faith, to then save you.
What Faith?
The same faith that believes in Muhammed.
The same faith that believes in Scientology.
The same faith that believe the "big bang theory" is true.
The same faith that believes that UFO are real.
The same faith that every unbeliever has in something "religious"............and God wants that FAITH, their faith, to be placed in JESUS.
And then OUR = "faith is counted by God, as (Christ's) Righteousness.""
Behold
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God saves the Sinner.. .Jesus's blood and death is the reason, and the sinner has to give their faith in Christ to God., before God will save them.
No one is "born again first.. so that they can then trust in Christ, by faith'".
And that includes Calvin, and that includes you.
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Gods Grace is more than enough.
And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 2 Corinthians 12:9
God shows grace in giving us life and providing for us and strengthening us for the path ahead. That grace is sufficient—it is all we need.
And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 2 Corinthians 12:9
God shows grace in giving us life and providing for us and strengthening us for the path ahead. That grace is sufficient—it is all we need.
brightfame52
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Jesus doesnt require faith from the sinner, the sinner is dead in sin, Jesus gives Faith in the Gift of Salvation
brightfame52
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Jesus gives faith to a sinner He saves.
civic
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Amen
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