A room full of men are all created beings.
It is foolish of you to make that kind of comparison concerning the Almighty.
The Unitarian challenge for those who deny Jesus is Almighty God
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A room full of men are all created beings.
It is foolish of you to make that kind of comparison concerning the Almighty.
Wrangler
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No, it’s not foolish at all since a title applies to the Creator as well as the created Jesus.
And yet you can't figure out in a specific passage which one the Lord refers to.
Your creator or creature-jesus confusion lives on.
Wrangler
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Irrelevant. Jesus is not God.
Jesus told us to pray to God in Jesus’ name. Jesus is the Gate to God, our only mediator to God.
And yet you can't make the distinction between the Father and the Son in specific passages where "Lord" is found.
Wrangler
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So what?
I read today that Esua was called Lord. No one thought he was God.
And to be fair, it's not that I lack the ability of discern that you seem to accuse me of. Rather, I discern your question is faulty, loading it with undo significance and attempting to set a trap.
Glad you can make that distinction between the creator and the creation (Esua), but you can't do with Jesus in many passages because He is the Creator (God).
Not answering your questions until you answer mine.
Wrangler
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Sure I can. Jesus is not God but the son of God, by definition, this means he is created.
DavidTree
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Why remain under the deception of "Jesus was created"???
If you pray and read Isaiah and pray as you go thru it, God will open your eyes - IF - you are honest and humble before Him.
Wrangler
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DavidTree
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Amongst humans = YES
The Creator did not create Himself.
The Creator came to earth as a human when a body was prepared for Him to temporarily dwell in.
Phillipians 2:5-11
Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus:
6Who, existing in the form of God,
did not consider equality with God
something to be grasped,a
7but emptied Himself,
taking the form of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8And being found in appearance as a man,
He humbled Himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross.
9Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place
and gave Him the name above all names,
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
DavidTree
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God left us logical dilemmas because we are to know Him thru Faith in His Word.
Faith in His Word supercedes logic because logically it is impossible to know Him apart from Faith.
Logic is trapped inside a cranium
If you look to find it you may need some germanium
Whereas Faith in His Word makes us look like dumb turds
Only in the eyes of those whose logic is for the birds
Faith in His Word is the Real Deal
My Father said so and that is why i Kneel
Trust in Him like a little Child - do it Today
For our Heavenly Father will Smile as He shows you the Way
The Creator who made the world and all things
He is so Smart that He did not even use a graph or a Chart
Nor did He need man for any Part
His Plans were spoken in Truth and Love
Don't you know that the Spirit is a Dove
In this poem all THREE can be seen
That is, if you Know what i mean
So when you look up at the moon, stars and sun
Always remember where the Light comes From
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Every earthly father was created.
Wrangler
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There is no logical dillemma. There is one God, the Father. Do you know that verse?
DavidTree
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Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Tit 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Praise Jesus.
Wrangler
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My lord is not God but God’s son, Jesus the Anointed.
