All Claims of The Son's Deity

[Johann]

All Claims of The Son's Deity
In about 45% of the New Testament, 19 witnesses make 50 claims of The Son's Deity in 186 iterations, including 54 iterations by Jesus Himself.


These claims are organized in three ways on separate Pages:




There are far more claims of The Son's deity than I was led to believe by conventional minimalization; but hundreds were not necessary. In God-breathed Scripture, only one of them was necessary to state the truth.


These claims are a more complete portrait of what the apostle John meant when he wrote, "The one who believes in The Son has eternal life. The one who rejects The Son will not see life, but God's wrath remains on him" [John 3:36]. Rejecting The Son's deity is in fact rejecting The Son, which Jesus warns explicitly [John 8:24].


BY CATEGORY


Actions of Yahweh [22]

Answers prayer ⇒ [3x] John 14:13; 14:14; 16:26.

Draws all people to Himself ⇒ [1x] John 12:32.

Eliminates death itself ⇒ [2x] 1 Cor 15:26; 2 Tim 1:10.

Forgives sin ⇒ [1x] Mark 2:5.

Fulfills all things (or: fills the universe) ⇒ [1x] Eph 4:10.

Gives life ⇒ [3x] John 5:21; 21:22; 1 Cor 15:45.

Influences human action (despite no longer being on Earth)

⇒ [7x] 1 Cor 1:8a; 11:32; 16:7; 1 Tim 1:12; 1:16b; 2 Tim 1:12c; Jude 1:24.

Nullified [the power of] The Law ⇒ [1x] Eph 2:15.

Purifies for Himself an elect people (λαός περιούσιος) ⇒ [1x] Titus 2:14.

Resurrects Himself from the dead ⇒ [1x] John 2:19.

Transforms all believers’ bodies into His own likeness ⇒ [1x] Phil 3:21.


Characteristics of Yahweh [30]

Eternal ⇒ [6x] John 1:1a; 1:2; 17:5b; 17:24; 1 John 1:1; 1:2.
Immutable ⇒ [2x] 2 Tim 2:13c; Heb 13:8.
Impassible ⇒ [2x] Phil 2:7a; 2:7b.
Inscrutable ⇒ [2x] Matt 11:27a; John 8:19b.
Sinless ⇒ [2x] John 8:46; 1 John 3:5.
Omniscient (accounting for kenosis and difference in role)

⇒ [4x] John 2:24; 2:25; 16:30a; 21:17.

Otherworldly ⇒ [12x] John 5:34; 6:46; 8:23; 8:42; 13:3; 15:5; 16:28; 16:30c; Rom 8:3;

1 Cor 15:47; Eph 4:9; 1 Tim 1:15.



Conflations, Other [27]

Ascriptions ⇒ [2x]

Luke 1:76 (The Most High); Rom 14:9 (Lord of the Living and the Dead).

Assertions ⇒ [4x]

John 8:12 (I am The Light of the World).

John 11:25 (I am The Ressurection and The Life).

John 14:6 (I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life).

John 16:33 (I have conquered the World).

Born of ⇒ [1x] 1 John 3:1.
Denying Him results in Hell ⇒ [1x] 2 Tim 2:12.
Equal Authority and Ownership to The Father ⇒ [2x] John 16:15; 17:10.
Equal Possessor of God’s glory, which Yahweh shares with no one [« Isa 42:8]

⇒ [1x] John 17:5a.

Knowing The Son equals knowing The Father ⇒ [4x] Matt 11:27b; John 8:19c; 14:7; 14:8.
Knowing equals Eternal Life ⇒ [1x] John 17:3.
One with The Father and/or The Spirit ontologically

⇒ [8x] John 10:30; 10:38; 14:10; 14:11; 14:23; 17:11; 17:21: 17:22.

Seeing The Son equals seeing The Father ⇒ [1x] John 14:9.
Working of The Son equated to working of The Father ⇒ [2x] John 5:17; 5:19.



Devotion due to Yahweh [21]

Devotional Belief in (not mundane belief, confidence, or trust)

⇒ [9x] John 1:7; 1:12; 14:1; Eph 1:13; 1:15; Col 1:4; 1 Tim 1:16c; 2 Tim 1:12b; Phlm 1:5.

of Equal Honor to The Father ⇒ [1x] John 5:23.
Object of the Highest Love, due only to the God of The Shema

⇒ [4x] Matt 10:37; Luke 14:26; 1 Cor 16:22; Eph 6:24.

United to ⇒ [3x] Rom 7:4; 1 Cor 6:17; Eph 5:32.
Worship of ⇒ [4x] Eph 5:19; Rev 5:13; Rev 22:3; 22:5a-b.



Direct Equation [69]

Called "Lord" in the sense of "Yahweh" ⇒ [22x]

Luke 1:16; 1:17; 1:43; 1:68; 1:76; John 20:28b; Acts 9:17; 19:5; 21:13; 21:14;

Rom 10:9; 10:12; 1 Cor 1:2; 1:8b; 8:6c; 12:3; Eph 4:5; Phil 2:11b; 3:20; Jude 1:4; 1:14;

Rev 22:5c

Called "God" ⇒ [17x]

Luke 1:16; 1:68; John 1:1c; 1:18; 20:28c; Rom 9:5; 14:10; 14:12; 1 Cor 5:13; 1 Tim 3:15-16; Titus 1:3; 2:13; Heb 1:8; 2 Pet 1:1; 1 John 5:20; 2 John 1:9; Jude 1:25.

Equal or Identical to God ⇒ [3x] Phil 2:6a; 2:6b; Heb 1:3b.
Monogenic Sonship which denotes the same essence

⇒ [3x] John 3:16; 3:18; 1 John 4:9.

Called The Kabod YHWH / The Glory of God, who is Yahweh

⇒ [2x] Heb 1:3a; Rev 21:23c.

Called the “I AM” or “I Am He,” who is Yahweh

⇒ [3x] John 8:24 (by cataphora); 8:28 (ibid.); 8:58.

Direct OT Citation or Allusion substituting for Yahweh or The Kabod YHWH [19]

John 1:23 (Isa 40:3); John 3:13 (Prov 30:4); Rom 9:32 (Isa 8:13-14; 28:16);

Rom 10:13 (Joel 2:32); Rom 14:11 (Isa 45:23); 1 Cor 1:31 (Jer 9:24[23]);

1 Cor 2:16 (Isa 40:13); 1 Cor 10:4; 1 Cor 10:9; Eph 4:8 (Isa 68:19-21[Eng. 18-20]);

Eph 5:14a-b (Isa 26:19-20); Eph 5:14c (Isa 60:1-2); Phil 2:10-11a (Isa 45:23-24);

2 Tim 2:19 (Num 16:5); 2 Tim 4:14 (Ps 28:4); Jude 1:5b (e.g., Exod 13:9);

Jude 1:5c (Num 1:35); Rev 21:23b (Isa 60:19-20); Rev 22:5a-b (Isa 60:19-20).


Offices of Yahweh [17]

Apportioner to each human his lot in life ⇒ [2x] 1 Cor 7:17; Eph 4:11.
Creator ⇒ [6x] John 1:3; 1:10; 1:11; 1 Cor 8:6d; Col 3:10 (of the New Man, the born-again

aspect); Heb 1:2c.

Judge, Eschatological/Cosmic ⇒ [3x] John 12:31; 2 Tim 4:1; 4:8.
King of Heaven ⇒ [3x] 1 Cor 15:24; Eph 6:9; Rev 22:5d.
Rewarder of each human [« Prov 24:12, exclusive domain of YHWH]

⇒ [2x] Matt 16:27; Rom 2:6.

Shepherd, Only [1]
⇒ John 10:14-16 (“The Good Shepherd” and “One Shepherd” for His “own”).

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[synergy]

All Claims of The Son's Deity
In about 45% of the New Testament, 19 witnesses make 50 claims of The Son's Deity in 186 iterations, including 54 iterations by Jesus Himself.


These claims are organized in three ways on separate Pages:




There are far more claims of The Son's deity than I was led to believe by conventional minimalization; but hundreds were not necessary. In God-breathed Scripture, only one of them was necessary to state the truth.


These claims are a more complete portrait of what the apostle John meant when he wrote, "The one who believes in The Son has eternal life. The one who rejects The Son will not see life, but God's wrath remains on him" [John 3:36]. Rejecting The Son's deity is in fact rejecting The Son, which Jesus warns explicitly [John 8:24].


BY CATEGORY


Actions of Yahweh [22]

Answers prayer ⇒ [3x] John 14:13; 14:14; 16:26.

Draws all people to Himself ⇒ [1x] John 12:32.

Eliminates death itself ⇒ [2x] 1 Cor 15:26; 2 Tim 1:10.

Forgives sin ⇒ [1x] Mark 2:5.

Fulfills all things (or: fills the universe) ⇒ [1x] Eph 4:10.

Gives life ⇒ [3x] John 5:21; 21:22; 1 Cor 15:45.

Influences human action (despite no longer being on Earth)

⇒ [7x] 1 Cor 1:8a; 11:32; 16:7; 1 Tim 1:12; 1:16b; 2 Tim 1:12c; Jude 1:24.

Nullified [the power of] The Law ⇒ [1x] Eph 2:15.

Purifies for Himself an elect people (λαός περιούσιος) ⇒ [1x] Titus 2:14.

Resurrects Himself from the dead ⇒ [1x] John 2:19.

Transforms all believers’ bodies into His own likeness ⇒ [1x] Phil 3:21.


Characteristics of Yahweh [30]

Eternal ⇒ [6x] John 1:1a; 1:2; 17:5b; 17:24; 1 John 1:1; 1:2.
Immutable ⇒ [2x] 2 Tim 2:13c; Heb 13:8.
Impassible ⇒ [2x] Phil 2:7a; 2:7b.
Inscrutable ⇒ [2x] Matt 11:27a; John 8:19b.
Sinless ⇒ [2x] John 8:46; 1 John 3:5.
Omniscient (accounting for kenosis and difference in role)

⇒ [4x] John 2:24; 2:25; 16:30a; 21:17.

Otherworldly ⇒ [12x] John 5:34; 6:46; 8:23; 8:42; 13:3; 15:5; 16:28; 16:30c; Rom 8:3;

1 Cor 15:47; Eph 4:9; 1 Tim 1:15.



Conflations, Other [27]

Ascriptions ⇒ [2x]

Luke 1:76 (The Most High); Rom 14:9 (Lord of the Living and the Dead).

Assertions ⇒ [4x]

John 8:12 (I am The Light of the World).

John 11:25 (I am The Ressurection and The Life).

John 14:6 (I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life).

John 16:33 (I have conquered the World).

Born of ⇒ [1x] 1 John 3:1.
Denying Him results in Hell ⇒ [1x] 2 Tim 2:12.
Equal Authority and Ownership to The Father ⇒ [2x] John 16:15; 17:10.
Equal Possessor of God’s glory, which Yahweh shares with no one [« Isa 42:8]

⇒ [1x] John 17:5a.

Knowing The Son equals knowing The Father ⇒ [4x] Matt 11:27b; John 8:19c; 14:7; 14:8.
Knowing equals Eternal Life ⇒ [1x] John 17:3.
One with The Father and/or The Spirit ontologically

⇒ [8x] John 10:30; 10:38; 14:10; 14:11; 14:23; 17:11; 17:21: 17:22.

Seeing The Son equals seeing The Father ⇒ [1x] John 14:9.
Working of The Son equated to working of The Father ⇒ [2x] John 5:17; 5:19.



Devotion due to Yahweh [21]

Devotional Belief in (not mundane belief, confidence, or trust)

⇒ [9x] John 1:7; 1:12; 14:1; Eph 1:13; 1:15; Col 1:4; 1 Tim 1:16c; 2 Tim 1:12b; Phlm 1:5.

of Equal Honor to The Father ⇒ [1x] John 5:23.
Object of the Highest Love, due only to the God of The Shema

⇒ [4x] Matt 10:37; Luke 14:26; 1 Cor 16:22; Eph 6:24.

United to ⇒ [3x] Rom 7:4; 1 Cor 6:17; Eph 5:32.
Worship of ⇒ [4x] Eph 5:19; Rev 5:13; Rev 22:3; 22:5a-b.



Direct Equation [69]

Called "Lord" in the sense of "Yahweh" ⇒ [22x]

Luke 1:16; 1:17; 1:43; 1:68; 1:76; John 20:28b; Acts 9:17; 19:5; 21:13; 21:14;

Rom 10:9; 10:12; 1 Cor 1:2; 1:8b; 8:6c; 12:3; Eph 4:5; Phil 2:11b; 3:20; Jude 1:4; 1:14;

Rev 22:5c

Called "God" ⇒ [17x]

Luke 1:16; 1:68; John 1:1c; 1:18; 20:28c; Rom 9:5; 14:10; 14:12; 1 Cor 5:13; 1 Tim 3:15-16; Titus 1:3; 2:13; Heb 1:8; 2 Pet 1:1; 1 John 5:20; 2 John 1:9; Jude 1:25.

Equal or Identical to God ⇒ [3x] Phil 2:6a; 2:6b; Heb 1:3b.
Monogenic Sonship which denotes the same essence

⇒ [3x] John 3:16; 3:18; 1 John 4:9.

Called The Kabod YHWH / The Glory of God, who is Yahweh

⇒ [2x] Heb 1:3a; Rev 21:23c.

Called the “I AM” or “I Am He,” who is Yahweh

⇒ [3x] John 8:24 (by cataphora); 8:28 (ibid.); 8:58.

Direct OT Citation or Allusion substituting for Yahweh or The Kabod YHWH [19]

John 1:23 (Isa 40:3); John 3:13 (Prov 30:4); Rom 9:32 (Isa 8:13-14; 28:16);

Rom 10:13 (Joel 2:32); Rom 14:11 (Isa 45:23); 1 Cor 1:31 (Jer 9:24[23]);

1 Cor 2:16 (Isa 40:13); 1 Cor 10:4; 1 Cor 10:9; Eph 4:8 (Isa 68:19-21[Eng. 18-20]);

Eph 5:14a-b (Isa 26:19-20); Eph 5:14c (Isa 60:1-2); Phil 2:10-11a (Isa 45:23-24);

2 Tim 2:19 (Num 16:5); 2 Tim 4:14 (Ps 28:4); Jude 1:5b (e.g., Exod 13:9);

Jude 1:5c (Num 1:35); Rev 21:23b (Isa 60:19-20); Rev 22:5a-b (Isa 60:19-20).


Offices of Yahweh [17]

Apportioner to each human his lot in life ⇒ [2x] 1 Cor 7:17; Eph 4:11.
Creator ⇒ [6x] John 1:3; 1:10; 1:11; 1 Cor 8:6d; Col 3:10 (of the New Man, the born-again

aspect); Heb 1:2c.

Judge, Eschatological/Cosmic ⇒ [3x] John 12:31; 2 Tim 4:1; 4:8.
King of Heaven ⇒ [3x] 1 Cor 15:24; Eph 6:9; Rev 22:5d.
Rewarder of each human [« Prov 24:12, exclusive domain of YHWH]

⇒ [2x] Matt 16:27; Rom 2:6.

Shepherd, Only [1]
⇒ John 10:14-16 (“The Good Shepherd” and “One Shepherd” for His “own”).

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There should be one more counter. It should count how many verses Runningman has run away from.

 

[Johann]

There should be one more counter. It should count how many verses Runningman has run away from.

What I find troubling is that we have all the resources we need right in front of us-the Greek, Hebrew, and the LXX with grammar and syntax. I spent years doing word studies before I learned how to study morphology and syntax properly, and all this information is accessible and free.
Yet, some people still resist digging deeper. I understand that not everyone is inclined to study this way, but at this point, there’s really no excuse for biblical illiteracy. On this forum, we have a great opportunity to sharpen our understanding of doctrine based on what Scripture actually says.

Just my two cents,
J.

 

[synergy]

What I find troubling is that we have all the resources we need right in front of us-the Greek, Hebrew, and the LXX with grammar and syntax. I spent years doing word studies before I learned how to study morphology and syntax properly, and all this information is accessible and free.
Yet, some people still resist digging deeper. I understand that not everyone is inclined to study this way, but at this point, there’s really no excuse for biblical illiteracy. On this forum, we have a great opportunity to sharpen our understanding of doctrine based on what Scripture actually says.

Just my two cents,
J.

Correct.

Further to that, it is my belief that at least half of all heresies would immediately evaporate if people would just practice basic language skills.

Our greatest Evangelists are Language Teachers. It would be interesting to see if there ever was a study made on many heretics have failed their basic Language Courses.

 

[civic]

All Claims of The Son's Deity
In about 45% of the New Testament, 19 witnesses make 50 claims of The Son's Deity in 186 iterations, including 54 iterations by Jesus Himself.


These claims are organized in three ways on separate Pages:




There are far more claims of The Son's deity than I was led to believe by conventional minimalization; but hundreds were not necessary. In God-breathed Scripture, only one of them was necessary to state the truth.


These claims are a more complete portrait of what the apostle John meant when he wrote, "The one who believes in The Son has eternal life. The one who rejects The Son will not see life, but God's wrath remains on him" [John 3:36]. Rejecting The Son's deity is in fact rejecting The Son, which Jesus warns explicitly [John 8:24].


BY CATEGORY


Actions of Yahweh [22]

Answers prayer ⇒ [3x] John 14:13; 14:14; 16:26.

Draws all people to Himself ⇒ [1x] John 12:32.

Eliminates death itself ⇒ [2x] 1 Cor 15:26; 2 Tim 1:10.

Forgives sin ⇒ [1x] Mark 2:5.

Fulfills all things (or: fills the universe) ⇒ [1x] Eph 4:10.

Gives life ⇒ [3x] John 5:21; 21:22; 1 Cor 15:45.

Influences human action (despite no longer being on Earth)

⇒ [7x] 1 Cor 1:8a; 11:32; 16:7; 1 Tim 1:12; 1:16b; 2 Tim 1:12c; Jude 1:24.

Nullified [the power of] The Law ⇒ [1x] Eph 2:15.

Purifies for Himself an elect people (λαός περιούσιος) ⇒ [1x] Titus 2:14.

Resurrects Himself from the dead ⇒ [1x] John 2:19.

Transforms all believers’ bodies into His own likeness ⇒ [1x] Phil 3:21.


Characteristics of Yahweh [30]

Eternal ⇒ [6x] John 1:1a; 1:2; 17:5b; 17:24; 1 John 1:1; 1:2.
Immutable ⇒ [2x] 2 Tim 2:13c; Heb 13:8.
Impassible ⇒ [2x] Phil 2:7a; 2:7b.
Inscrutable ⇒ [2x] Matt 11:27a; John 8:19b.
Sinless ⇒ [2x] John 8:46; 1 John 3:5.
Omniscient (accounting for kenosis and difference in role)

⇒ [4x] John 2:24; 2:25; 16:30a; 21:17.

Otherworldly ⇒ [12x] John 5:34; 6:46; 8:23; 8:42; 13:3; 15:5; 16:28; 16:30c; Rom 8:3;

1 Cor 15:47; Eph 4:9; 1 Tim 1:15.



Conflations, Other [27]

Ascriptions ⇒ [2x]

Luke 1:76 (The Most High); Rom 14:9 (Lord of the Living and the Dead).

Assertions ⇒ [4x]

John 8:12 (I am The Light of the World).

John 11:25 (I am The Ressurection and The Life).

John 14:6 (I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life).

John 16:33 (I have conquered the World).

Born of ⇒ [1x] 1 John 3:1.
Denying Him results in Hell ⇒ [1x] 2 Tim 2:12.
Equal Authority and Ownership to The Father ⇒ [2x] John 16:15; 17:10.
Equal Possessor of God’s glory, which Yahweh shares with no one [« Isa 42:8]

⇒ [1x] John 17:5a.

Knowing The Son equals knowing The Father ⇒ [4x] Matt 11:27b; John 8:19c; 14:7; 14:8.
Knowing equals Eternal Life ⇒ [1x] John 17:3.
One with The Father and/or The Spirit ontologically

⇒ [8x] John 10:30; 10:38; 14:10; 14:11; 14:23; 17:11; 17:21: 17:22.

Seeing The Son equals seeing The Father ⇒ [1x] John 14:9.
Working of The Son equated to working of The Father ⇒ [2x] John 5:17; 5:19.



Devotion due to Yahweh [21]

Devotional Belief in (not mundane belief, confidence, or trust)

⇒ [9x] John 1:7; 1:12; 14:1; Eph 1:13; 1:15; Col 1:4; 1 Tim 1:16c; 2 Tim 1:12b; Phlm 1:5.

of Equal Honor to The Father ⇒ [1x] John 5:23.
Object of the Highest Love, due only to the God of The Shema

⇒ [4x] Matt 10:37; Luke 14:26; 1 Cor 16:22; Eph 6:24.

United to ⇒ [3x] Rom 7:4; 1 Cor 6:17; Eph 5:32.
Worship of ⇒ [4x] Eph 5:19; Rev 5:13; Rev 22:3; 22:5a-b.



Direct Equation [69]

Called "Lord" in the sense of "Yahweh" ⇒ [22x]

Luke 1:16; 1:17; 1:43; 1:68; 1:76; John 20:28b; Acts 9:17; 19:5; 21:13; 21:14;

Rom 10:9; 10:12; 1 Cor 1:2; 1:8b; 8:6c; 12:3; Eph 4:5; Phil 2:11b; 3:20; Jude 1:4; 1:14;

Rev 22:5c

Called "God" ⇒ [17x]

Luke 1:16; 1:68; John 1:1c; 1:18; 20:28c; Rom 9:5; 14:10; 14:12; 1 Cor 5:13; 1 Tim 3:15-16; Titus 1:3; 2:13; Heb 1:8; 2 Pet 1:1; 1 John 5:20; 2 John 1:9; Jude 1:25.

Equal or Identical to God ⇒ [3x] Phil 2:6a; 2:6b; Heb 1:3b.
Monogenic Sonship which denotes the same essence

⇒ [3x] John 3:16; 3:18; 1 John 4:9.

Called The Kabod YHWH / The Glory of God, who is Yahweh

⇒ [2x] Heb 1:3a; Rev 21:23c.

Called the “I AM” or “I Am He,” who is Yahweh

⇒ [3x] John 8:24 (by cataphora); 8:28 (ibid.); 8:58.

Direct OT Citation or Allusion substituting for Yahweh or The Kabod YHWH [19]

John 1:23 (Isa 40:3); John 3:13 (Prov 30:4); Rom 9:32 (Isa 8:13-14; 28:16);

Rom 10:13 (Joel 2:32); Rom 14:11 (Isa 45:23); 1 Cor 1:31 (Jer 9:24[23]);

1 Cor 2:16 (Isa 40:13); 1 Cor 10:4; 1 Cor 10:9; Eph 4:8 (Isa 68:19-21[Eng. 18-20]);

Eph 5:14a-b (Isa 26:19-20); Eph 5:14c (Isa 60:1-2); Phil 2:10-11a (Isa 45:23-24);

2 Tim 2:19 (Num 16:5); 2 Tim 4:14 (Ps 28:4); Jude 1:5b (e.g., Exod 13:9);

Jude 1:5c (Num 1:35); Rev 21:23b (Isa 60:19-20); Rev 22:5a-b (Isa 60:19-20).


Offices of Yahweh [17]

Apportioner to each human his lot in life ⇒ [2x] 1 Cor 7:17; Eph 4:11.
Creator ⇒ [6x] John 1:3; 1:10; 1:11; 1 Cor 8:6d; Col 3:10 (of the New Man, the born-again

aspect); Heb 1:2c.

Judge, Eschatological/Cosmic ⇒ [3x] John 12:31; 2 Tim 4:1; 4:8.
King of Heaven ⇒ [3x] 1 Cor 15:24; Eph 6:9; Rev 22:5d.
Rewarder of each human [« Prov 24:12, exclusive domain of YHWH]

⇒ [2x] Matt 16:27; Rom 2:6.

Shepherd, Only [1]
⇒ John 10:14-16 (“The Good Shepherd” and “One Shepherd” for His “own”).

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His claims are undeniable
His Disciples teachings about His Deity are undeniable
Those He healed whom were Jews worshiped Him.
The OT and NT descriptions of Him being called God/YHWH are undeniable.
All heaven worships Him on the throne as God.

The biblical testimony concerning the Sons Deity is undeniable. I started a thread a while ago where it has 160 names titles and descriptions of the Son that declare His Deity and that no man could ever be called them unless that man was also God. He said and did only the things God can say and do. No man can make this claims which is why the Jewish leaders on numerous occasions trie to stone Him for blasphemy- you a mere man make yourself out to be YHWH/God.

The Uni's deny the biblical narrative regarding His claims at least the Jews recognized His claims to be God and rejected them. They are both in the same boat in the end denying Christ.

 

[TomL]

His claims are undeniable
His Disciples teachings about His Deity are undeniable
Those He healed whom were Jews worshiped Him.
The OT and NT descriptions of Him being called God/YHWH are undeniable.
All heaven worships Him on the throne as God.

The biblical testimony concerning the Sons Deity is undeniable. I started a thread a while ago where it has 160 names titles and descriptions of the Son that declare His Deity and that no man could ever be called them unless that man was also God. He said and did only the things God can say and do. No man can make this claims which is why the Jewish leaders on numerous occasions trie to stone Him for blasphemy- you a mere man make yourself out to be YHWH/God.

The Uni's deny the biblical narrative regarding His claims at least the Jews recognized His claims to be God and rejected them. They are both in the same boat in the end denying Christ.

Yes the Jews had a better understanding of the claims of Jesus than the Unitarians

 

[civic]

Yes the Jews had a better understanding of the claims of Jesus than the Unitarians

Yes it’s not even close.

 

[Complete]

'Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ,
according to the faith of God's elect,
and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
In hope of eternal life,
which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
But hath in due times manifested His word through preaching,
which is committed unto me
according to the commandment of God our Saviour;
To Titus, mine own son after the common faith:
Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father
and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.'
(Titus 1:1-4)

'Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters,
and to please them well in all things; not answering again;
Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity;
that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing
of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
(Titus 2:9-13)

'But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour
toward man appeared,
Not by works of righteousness which we have done,
but according to His mercy He saved us,
by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Which He shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
That being justified by His grace,
we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.;
(Tit 3:4-7)

* Reading these words in Paul's letter to Titus, there can be no doubt that Paul believed in the Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[TomL]

'Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ,
according to the faith of God's elect,
and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
In hope of eternal life,
which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
But hath in due times manifested His word through preaching,
which is committed unto me
according to the commandment of God our Saviour;
To Titus, mine own son after the common faith:
Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father
and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.'
(Titus 1:1-4)

'Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters,
and to please them well in all things; not answering again;
Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity;
that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing
of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
(Titus 2:9-13)

'But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour
toward man appeared,
Not by works of righteousness which we have done,
but according to His mercy He saved us,
by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Which He shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
That being justified by His grace,
we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.;
(Tit 3:4-7)

* Reading these words in Paul's letter to Titus, there can be no doubt that Paul believed in the Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

True

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

 

[Complete]

True

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ,

Hello @TomL,

Looking forward to it in more ways than one. yes? Especially in the light of Colossians 3:3-4:-

'For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
When Christ, Who is our life, shall appear,
then shall ye also appear with Him in glory.
(Col 3:3-4)

Praise His Holy Name!

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[TomL]

Hello @TomL,

Looking forward to it in more ways than one. yes? Especially in the light of Colossians 3:3-4:-

'For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
When Christ, Who is our life, shall appear,
then shall ye also appear with Him in glory.
(Col 3:3-4)

Praise His Holy Name!

In Christ Jesus
Chris

Amen

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

The Uni's deny the biblical narrative regarding His claims at least the Jews recognized His claims to be God and rejected them.

Hi Civic. @TomL and @Complete

Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah. That was the claim of Jesus during his life, that was the claim that Peter accepted in his confession (and the confession that Jesus applauded as revealed from God). That was the claim that was questioned at the Sanhedrin, the claim that led to the inscription over his cross, the claim that both the repented thief and the centurion at the cross accepted.

Jews accusing Jesus of proclaiming Himself God were enemies of Jesus, making a false accusation of blasphemy. A false accusation that Jesus rejected on the spot.

Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”​

“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”​

Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? (John 10:31-36)​

That accusation was so unsustainable, so weak, that the Sanhedrin couldn't use it to sentence Jesus to death.
As you remember, Jesus is not asked to declare if He is God. He is asked to declare if He is the Anointed Son of God, the Messiah. Jesus responds He is, and places himself on the right of the throne of God, not on the throne of God.

In contrast, Jesus claimed to worship the very same God all Jews knew as God. The Unipersonal, Eternal, Only and True God of Israel.

 

[TomL]

Hi Civic. @TomL and @Complete

Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah. That was the claim of Jesus during his life, that was the claim that Peter accepted in his confession (and the confession that Jesus applauded as revealed from God). That was the claim that was questioned at the Sanhedrin, the claim that led to the inscription over his cross, the claim that both the repented thief and the centurion at the cross accepted.

Jews accusing Jesus of proclaiming Himself God were enemies of Jesus, making a false accusation of blasphemy. A false accusation that Jesus rejected on the spot.

Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”​

“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”​

Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? (John 10:31-36)​

That accusation was so unsustainable, so weak, that the Sanhedrin couldn't use it to sentence Jesus to death.
As you remember, Jesus is not asked to declare if He is God. He is asked to declare if He is the Anointed Son of God, the Messiah. Jesus responds He is, and places himself on the right of the throne of God, not on the throne of God.

In contrast, Jesus claimed to worship the very same God all Jews knew as God. The Unipersonal, Eternal, Only and True God of Israel.

Romans 10:8–9 (LEB) — 8 But what does it say? “The word is near to you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim), 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Romans 10:8–9 (LEB) — 8 But what does it say? “The word is near to you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim), 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Who raised Jesus from the dead, according to the passage you have quoted?

 

[synergy]

Who raised Jesus from the dead, according to the passage you have quoted?

Just like it says: God; the Triune God to be more exact (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).

 

[TomL]

Who raised Jesus from the dead, according to the passage you have quoted?

Why do you avoid the point

Romans 10:9 (NASB95) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

Salvation is had by confessing Christ as Lord

Romans 10:13 (NASB95) — 13 for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”

He is the Lord you call on to be saved.

All the verses are linked together by the conjunction for

Romans 10:9–13 (LEB) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord is Lord of all, who is rich to all who call upon him. 13 For “everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.”

The Old Testament tells us to call on Yahweh to be saved. In the New Testament, Kurios (Lord) is employed in place of Yahweh.

Jesus is Yahweh

As for your question the answer is God and yet

John 2:19–22 (LEB) — 19 Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up!” 20 Then the Jews said, “This temple has been under construction forty-six years, and will you raise it up in three days?” 21 But he was speaking about the temple of his body. 22 So when he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the scripture and the saying that Jesus had spoken.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Why do you avoid the point

Romans 10:9 (NASB95) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

Salvation is had by confessing Christ as Lord

Romans 10:13 (NASB95) — 13 for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”

He is the Lord you call on to be saved.

All the verses are linked together by the conjunction for

Romans 10:9–13 (LEB) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord is Lord of all, who is rich to all who call upon him. 13 For “everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.”

The Old Testament tells us to call on Yahweh to be saved. In the New Testament, Kurios (Lord) is employed in place of Yahweh.

I get your point, my friend: you think that, since the name “Lord” (Adonai) is used in the OT in reference to The True and Only God, you think that, by calling Jesus “Lord” (Kurios) Paul means Jesus is the True and Only God.

This is a mistake:

1. Paul treated God and Jesus as different persons (about 45 verses)
2. Paul assigned the title “ God” (Theos) to The Father and “Lord” (Kurios) to Jesus, every single time he mentioned both in the same sentence. No swaping. (30 verses)
3. Paul believed that The Father was the God of Jesus, just as Jesus had recognized (1 verse)
4. “Lord” (Kurios) as used in the Greek New Testament, is not the same as “Adonai” in the OT. “Lord” is a title of deep respect and loyalty to a person who is your master, leader, or that you could easily accept as a master, leader. For example, Cornelius called the angel who appeared to him “Lord”, even when Cornelius was already a God-fearer.

I confess Jesus as Lord. You confess Jesus as Lord.
If you and I confess Jesus as Lord, we will folllow his example.
So, let’s follow his example, and pray to Our Father today… You and me, from our countries and homes.
I invite you today to tell Him: “Our Father in Heaven:I love you, the Only and True God, and I love Lord Jesus, who you sent to the world”.

Jesus is Yahweh

No, He is not. Jesus worshipped Yahweh. Jesus spoke and did what Yahweh asked him to do.
Yahweh is The Father of Jesus and Our Father. Yahweh is the God of Jesus and Our God. Jesus and us are brothers. (John 20:17).

As for your question the answer is God and yet

You have answered correctly. God, a personal being, raised Jesus, another personal being, from the dead. Therefore, God is not Jesus

John 2:19–22 (LEB) — 19 Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up!” 20 Then the Jews said, “This temple has been under construction forty-six years, and will you raise it up in three days?” 21 But he was speaking about the temple of his body. 22 So when he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the scripture and the saying that Jesus had spoken.

Jesus promised he would be back from dead, because he trusted that Our God, YHWH, would raise him from the dead. Jesus always proclaimed that Our God and Father was the only source of his power and authority.

If I am a young son without any wealth of my own, who still lives in the house of my wealthy father under his rules, and I am saying Goodbye to my friends in France, where my father sent me to accomplish something, and I promise to my friends “I’ll be back in 3 months ”, what do I mean?
I mean that my father has given me his money and permission to return to a France in 3 months.

When Jesus was agonizing on the cross, Jesus asked God to take care of his spirit.
And there are many verses that confirm that God was the one who raised Jesus.
This God was YHWH, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. (Acts 5:30)

The God of our ancestors raised Jesus from the dead—whom you killed by hanging him on a cross.

 

[TomL]

I get your point, my friend: you think that, since the name “Lord” (Adonai) is used in the OT in reference to The True and Only God, you think that, by calling Jesus “Lord” (Kurios) Paul means Jesus is the True and Only God.

This is a mistake:

1. Paul treated God and Jesus as different persons (about 45 verses)
2. Paul assigned the title “ God” (Theos) to The Father and “Lord” (Kurios) to Jesus, every single time he mentioned both in the same sentence. No swaping. (30 verses)
3. Paul believed that The Father was the God of Jesus, just as Jesus had recognized (1 verse)
4. “Lord” (Kurios) as used in the Greek New Testament, is not the same as “Adonai” in the OT. “Lord” is a title of deep respect and loyalty to a person who is your master, leader, or that you could easily accept as a master, leader. For example, Cornelius called the angel who appeared to him “Lord”, even when Cornelius was already a God-fearer.

I confess Jesus as Lord. You confess Jesus as Lord.
If you and I confess Jesus as Lord, we will folllow his example.
So, let’s follow his example, and pray to Our Father today… You and me, from our countries and homes.
I invite you today to tell Him: “Our Father in Heaven:I love you, the Only and True God, and I love Lord Jesus, who you sent to the world”.


No, He is not. Jesus worshipped Yahweh. Jesus spoke and did what Yahweh asked him to do.
Yahweh is The Father of Jesus and Our Father. Yahweh is the God of Jesus and Our God. Jesus and us are brothers. (John 20:17).


You have answered correctly. God, a personal being, raised Jesus, another personal being, from the dead. Therefore, God is not Jesus


Jesus promised he would be back from dead, because he trusted that Our God, YHWH, would raise him from the dead. Jesus always proclaimed that Our God and Father was the only source of his power and authority.

If I am a young son without any wealth of my own, who still lives in the house of my wealthy father under his rules, and I am saying Goodbye to my friends in France, where my father sent me to accomplish something, and I promise to my friends “I’ll be back in 3 months ”, what do I mean?
I mean that my father has given me his money and permission to return to a France in 3 months.

When Jesus was agonizing on the cross, Jesus asked God to take care of his spirit.
And there are many verses that confirm that God was the one who raised Jesus.
This God was YHWH, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. (Acts 5:30)

The God of our ancestors raised Jesus from the dead—whom you killed by hanging him on a cross.

Except scripture uses Lord in a manner you do not

Mark 12:29 (NASB95) — 29 Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;

as a substitute for Yahweh

in the Shema of Israel

Christ is Yahweh and man

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Except scripture uses Lord in a manner you do not

Mark 12:29 (NASB95) — 29 Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;

as a substitute for Yahweh

in the Shema of Israel

Christ is Yahweh and man

This time I didn’t understand your point
The scribe, doctor of the Law, worshiped YHWH, One Single a person. That’s Jewish monotheism. Do you agree so far?
Every time the scribe read or heard the Shema Israel, he, as millions of Jews of all time, thought in Adonai, YHWH, The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob: One single divine person.

Did Jesus ask the scribe to abandon that notion? No! Jesus and the scribe were in agreement. They praised each other’s answer. There was no change whatsoever to Jewish monotheism.
So, Jesus understanding of the oneness of God is the same scribes had… the same the rabbi of the synagogue of your city has.

This is the exchange they had

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”​

​

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: YHWH our God, YHWH is one. Love YHWH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.”​

​

“Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”​

​

When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.”​

 

[synergy]

This time I didn’t understand your point
The scribe, doctor of the Law, worshiped YHWH, One Single a person. That’s Jewish monotheism. Do you agree so far?
Every time the scribe read or heard the Shema Israel, he, as millions of Jews of all time, thought in Adonai, YHWH, The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob: One single divine person.

Did Jesus ask the scribe to abandon that notion? No! Jesus and the scribe were in agreement. They praised each other’s answer. There was no change whatsoever to Jewish monotheism.
So, Jesus understanding of the oneness of God is the same scribes had… the same the rabbi of the synagogue of your city has.

This is the exchange they had

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”​

​

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: YHWH our God, YHWH is one. Love YHWH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.”​

​

“Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”​

​

When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.”​

Nowhere is the word "Person" mentioned anywhere. That's a massive problem for you and for all Judaizers around the world.