He emptied himself to the extent of taking on our human likeness, taking on the form of a servant, and becoming our Exemplar. That's how much. You don't like it? Too bad for you.
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101G
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no, too bad for you. are you saying that the Lord Jesus was not God anymore? because you said, "He emptied himself to the extent of taking on our human likeness". so that means Phil. 2:6 LIED?. was the Lord Jesus according to you was no longer God? so 101G question still stand, "How much of the ONE Spirit was Emptied for the person you call the Son, to be like man?" scripture please. for to me empty means, "containing nothing". so again, 101G ask, "was all of God emptied." yes or no. if yes, then who upheld the universe/Creation? and if no, then you have a divided God.
your answer please.
101G.
101G needs an English Lesson on the English word "likeness". Likeness means that two things resemble each other but are NOT exactly the same or equal to each other. Once you graduate English Language 101 then we can talk. Ok?
101G
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Behold
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Jesus is the PERSON of the Godhead......."bodily"
God is "A Spirit" who is "Father God", regarding only the Born again.
And the "Holy Spirit" is...>"God is a SPIRIT", and "Christ is THAT Spirit".
101G
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Error, the Lord Jesus is Spirit, listen, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
Form: G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
[perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)]
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313
see definition #2 the Lord Jesus nature before, during, and after in flesh is "Spirit", yes, the same "one" Spirit. John 4:24 "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."
the same ONE Spirit, so try again.
and as for the Spirit, is not the Lord Jeus that Spirit, the Holy Spirit? yes, 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"
Advocate:
G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
[(not given)]
KJV: advocate, comforter
Root(s): G3844, G2822
note definition #3. a Comforter. is not the Lord Jesus is the Comforter, who when in natural flesh was the Comforter that came first? see Luke 2:25 for the answer. (smile).
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Behold
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"God is A Spirit"
"Christ is THAT Spirit"
= The Holy Spirit.
If you read Genesis , you read that "God breathed into Adam" and that caused Him to LIVE inside that Body that is the LIFE.
Then, if you read John 20:22, you find Jesus giving THE Spirit to the 11 Apostles.
SAME GOD in both Cases, as only GOD can give the Spirit.
Same GOD who told Peter He was going to send it during Pentecost, and He did.
Same GOD who didnt correct Thomas when Thomas said to JESUS... "my Lord and my GOD".
101G
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same God? Listen, SAME ONE PERSON. and here's why. Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:"
and did not the Lord Jesus BREATHED on them, and they did what.... received the Holy Spirit. same Person.
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Behold
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"God said....Let there BE"..... and all of Creation began.
"God = SAID"...
He "Spoke creation, into Existence"..
Jesus is the WORD....... made Flesh...
Jesus is the pre-incarnate WORD, who "was God"... in John 1.
Connect the dots.... .reader.
God Spoke, and the pre-incarnate WORD is Jesus, who was manifested in the Flesh as the God-man.
This is why John 1:10, says that JESUS... "made the WORLD"..., as that's a confirmation that GOD made it, in Genesis.
101G
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Let's connect the dots. Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"
ALONE: having no one else present.meaning he did not God through or by anyone else. he spoke by, by, by, Himself just as he said. NOW LEARN a thing or two. BY, means THROUGH. 101G is using the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English for the term "BY" as in BY ..... himself.
BY: prep. 1. Near; close; as, sit by me; that house stands by a river.
[L. pressus.]
2. Near, in motion; as, to move, go or pass by a church. But it seems, in other phrases,or with a verb in the past time, to signify past, gone beyond. "The procession is gone by;" "the hour is gone by;" "John went by." We now use past as an equivalent word. The procession is gone past. Gone by is in strictness tautology, as now used; but I apprehend by signifies primarily near.
3. Through, or with, denoting the agent, means, instrument or cause; as, "a city is destroyed by fire;" "profit is made by commerce;" "to take by force." This use answers to that of the Latin per, through, denoting a passing, acting, agency, or instrumentality.
note definition #3. above..... (smile) BY means Through, lol, lol, lol, bingo, he BY or through HIMSELF Spoke all things into existence. this is too easy.
and he was "Alone", and "BY HIMSELF", how clear can one get.
now, another way to reprove U and there are so many. LISTEN, "WHO LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH? lets see. Hebrews 1:10 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:" the bible said, the "Lord", whom you call the Son. now this, Zechariah 12:1 "The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him." THE BIBLE HERE SAID THE "LORD", WHOM U CALL THE FATHER, laid the foundation of the earth...... (smile). is this not the same one person? yes, else you have two creators.
see Behold, the bible don't LIE. men LIE. and men are deceived by the wrong spirits. this is why we need to test the spirit ny the Spirit.
now don't be deceived, "is the person in Hebrew1:10 is the same one person in Zechariah 12:1, yes or NO?
101G.
No, Christ remained by nature God and by person the Word of God but he emptied himself to the extent of taking on our human likeness, taking on the form of a servant, and becoming our Exemplar. That's how much. You don't like it? Too bad for you.
101G
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well then you just violate scripture, for the Lord Jesus nature is EQUAL "WITH" ... not Equal to, but EQUAL WITH, which is where you make your Mistake. listen, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" so how can he empty himself when he has no body to empty from.
now if you want to go down the road of Person/ESSENCE, meaning, character, or characteristics that want work for you either, here why. Hebrews 1:1 "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets," Hebrews 1:2 "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;" Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"
here, "Express Image". means "Exact" meaning the same one person. and since it's the same one person, then all of God was then emptied and that want flly. as the scriptures states he LEARN. so the creation would be in chaos.
101G.
101G needs another English Lesson, this time on the English word "image". An image of a person is not the person himself. It is an image of a person. Do you understand? Once you graduate English Language 101 then we can talk. Ok?
At least half of all heresies would immediately vanish if people would just learn basic English. The best Heresy Busters are English Language Comprehension Teachers.
101G
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is God a MAN? yes or NO.
and is MAN in God IMAGE. and do not the IMAGE reflect it's SOURCE?
now we can talk.
101G.
civic
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God became man permanently at the Incarnation
101G
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(smile), the TRUE man. for he took part in our Humanity, but after the resurrection, now when he comes we can be "PARTAKERS" of him. see the difference? "TOOK PART" VS "PARTAKE"....... the NEW MAN.God became man permanently at the Incarnation
Scripture, "TOOK PART". Hebrews 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;"
Now, his NEW NATURE, "PARTAKE". 2 Peter 1:4 "Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust."
1 Corinthians 15:44 "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body." 1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." 1 Corinthians 15:46 "Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual." 1 Corinthians 15:47 "The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven." 1 Corinthians 15:48 "As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly." 1 Corinthians 15:49 "And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly."
101G.
civic
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Man is not God, Divine or Deity but God became man.
101G
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1 Corinthians 15:44 "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body." 1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." 1 Corinthians 15:46 "Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual." 1 Corinthians 15:47 "The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven." 1 Corinthians 15:48 "As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly." 1 Corinthians 15:49 "And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly."Man is not God, Divine or Deity but God became man.
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We can make a distinction between the three persons of the Trinity, because each member of the Godhead has unique attributes. We say the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, but we don’t say that the Father is the Son, the Son is the Holy Spirit, or the Holy Spirit is the Father.
There are distinctions between them, but the distinctions are not essential, not of the essence. They are real, but they do not disturb the essence of deity. The distinctions within the Godhead are, if you will, sub-distinctions within the essence of God. He is one essence, three subsistences. That is about as close as we can get to articulating the historic doctrine of the Trinity.
There are distinctions between them, but the distinctions are not essential, not of the essence. They are real, but they do not disturb the essence of deity. The distinctions within the Godhead are, if you will, sub-distinctions within the essence of God. He is one essence, three subsistences. That is about as close as we can get to articulating the historic doctrine of the Trinity.
