Your organization is high up on that list
The Trinity and the Incarnation
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Michael Brown
The word is pastime -- if you want any feedback.
I just learned it is one word.
Johann
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Ah! Michael Brown!
Debates Michael Brown Has Engaged In:
Dr. Brown has debated many prominent figures, including Jewish rabbis, Muslim apologists, and others who hold differing theological views. Here are some of the more well-known debates and opponents:
Rabbi Tovia Singer: Dr. Brown and Rabbi Singer have had multiple debates, particularly focused on the Messianic prophecies and whether Jesus fulfills them. These debates are often heated, with each side presenting their arguments for their respective beliefs. While Rabbi Singer has argued vigorously against Christian interpretations of the Hebrew Scriptures, many of Brown’s supporters believe he has made a strong case in defense of Christianity.
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach: Dr. Brown debated Rabbi Boteach on issues such as the deity of Jesus and the nature of the Jewish faith in relation to Christianity. The debates were intellectually rigorous, with both sides presenting well-reasoned arguments.
Muslim Scholars: Dr. Brown has also debated Muslim scholars and apologists on topics such as the divinity of Christ, the reliability of the Bible, and the Quran’s relationship to the Bible. His debates with Muslim apologists have also been well-received by many, although they have occasionally been contentious.
Has He Lost Debates?
While there are no formal "scores" for debates, and it’s difficult to quantify "winning" or "losing" in theological discussions, it is true that some critics and opponents have challenged his views or disagreed with his arguments.
For example:
Rabbi Tovia Singer and others have criticized Dr. Brown's interpretation of Messianic prophecies and the New Testament's use of the Hebrew Scriptures. Some listeners who side with the Jewish perspective might feel that Singer’s arguments are stronger.
Muslim apologists may assert that Dr. Brown’s responses to questions about the Quran and the reliability of the Bible are insufficient or flawed.
However, the nature of these debates means that often both sides believe they have "won," and the effectiveness of the debate largely depends on the theological background and perspective of the audience. Dr. Brown’s supporters often praise his intellectual rigor, while his critics may point out areas where he does not fully address their concerns.
Thanks.
J.
Johann
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I'll let you know if I need any help with grammar. Here in South Africa, you can say "pastime" or "passing the time."The word is pastime -- if you want any feedback.
"tyd verbygaan" or simply "tyd deurbring."
J.
sure. no problem. I learned some English and Afrikaans. I can use that with our family in church from there.
Can i respond with those words if they ask how i'm doing or maybe a different question?
Johann
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You are welcome. A few years back Civic and I had watched a debate with Michael Brown and James White against Anthony Buzzard and a Jewish Rabi
I like Michael but Sam Shamoun is tops in this area in my opinion
Yes as noted elsewhere I saw Michael Brown and James white against Anthony buzzard and a Jewish Rabi and a some Sam shamoun debates
Johann
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Runningman
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Not according to Scripture. Jesus is a son of the Most High just like the others. Prove otherwise.
Runningman
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Here's what the word "only" means from John 17:3 below. They absolutely reject this. I don't think any of them will come out and say it, but this verse is 100% the enemy of Trinitarianism. They can't say anything to make this go away. Despite the arguments with thousands of words, we actually have the trump card on all of them. It certainly is a confidence booster. We know what the key is to understanding who God is.
only
μόνον (monon)
Adjective - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 3441: Only, solitary, desolate. Probably from meno; remaining, i.e. Sole or single; by implication, mere.
okay. so you might have a point if we are given Joh 17:3 but verse 5 did not exist. And if Jesus existed for over 6000 years walking on the earth that he created, you might almost start making sense and then entered his mother's womb again and reappeared as a baby. Do I have it right as to what you are saying here?
Already did but
Revelation 17:14 (KJV 1900) — 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Ephesians 1:20–22 (KJV 1900) — 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: 22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
Hello
You deny scripture when you make him only equal to others
Actually it's not
You simply beg the question and assume God is but one person
Trinitarians hold there is but one God
What you need and do not have is a statement
Saying the father of Jesus Christ alone is the only true God
You WILL find out the opposite.
Sorry that unpleasantry will be yours alone.
Runningman
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John 17:5, if literal, in light of John 17:3, could prove Jesus did not pre-exist as God, but possibly as an angel or in the foreknowledge as God.
Sure. If we go that direction, we could say he was a cyborg or a intergalactic alien or a time traveler. Uh no. The identification we are given is that Jesus is God in the flesh but more specifically the Son of God. A little more specific is that he is Creator with the Father in divine form who became known when incarnate as Jesus.
Nothing about foreknowledge there
John 17:3–5 (KJV 1900) — 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
John 1:3 (KJV 1900) — 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
An angel has no creative power and He cannot be a thing because all things were created through him
Your doctrine is unbiblical
