that person was in nature very God
The Trinity study ,plural references to God in the Old Testament:Plural nouns, pronouns, verbs, adverbs
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Runningman
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You're at a disadvantage posting non-Biblical commentary and attempting to pass it off as Scripture.
Runningman
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So anyone who has the divine nature is God?
2 Peter 1
4Through these He has given us His precious and magnificent promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, now that you have escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
just using the inspired commentary of Apostles Jesus, peter, and Paul
Runningman
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None of them repeated your commentary. I am sure you would be arguing with them if they were here in this very forum.
That would be the Holy Spirit who now indwells all of the saved of God, but we still are in but human natures, Jesus as both Deity and human natures in him
Runningman
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You are good at making up non-Biblical commentary, but as soon as Scripture gets posted that explicitly states that others can have the divine nature, the blinders come up over your eyes and you make up a new line of commentary that contradicts it. I think what would be best for you would be to replace your beliefs with what the Bible says or does that bother you?
I hold to the biblical view of God as a blessed trinity, you are th one with spiritual blinder snow on
Runningman
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No you don't hold to a biblical view of God. You hold to a philosophical view of God perpetuated by your organization, but it is heresy.
civic
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Projecting since there were no Unitarians in the Bible
Runningman
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They are all Unitarian. No trinitarians in the Bible.
360watt
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What do you all do with the classical trinity diagram with the Father not being the Son or Holy Spirit, when you see them interchanging roles in the likes of Revelation?
I've never been comfortable with saying the aren't each other in the way they inter-relate, and the fact they are one God.
I've never been comfortable with saying the aren't each other in the way they inter-relate, and the fact they are one God.
The Three are separate and distinct person to the other.
In Revelation 13:6, speaks about "blaspheme" against God, Where Jesus said can be forgiven.
But to "blaspheme" the Holy Spirit, why cannot be forgiven?
Do that proves that the Holy Spirit is not the same person to the Father and Jesus but one in the nature of God?
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, that is, those who dwell in heaven.
360watt
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It does prove the distinction. I just can't get round the fact of God being one being..so the three aren't separate beings
Runningman
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Blasphemy against the Son is forgivable, blasphemy against the Spirit (the Spirit is the Father according to John 4:23,24) is not forgivable. That is why Jesus didn't mention the Father in Matt 12:31,32 because it would be redundant to mention the Father after mentioning the Holy Spirit. The Father (also known as the Holy Spirit) is God and the Son isn't. The same standard doesn't apply to Holy Spirit and the Son, as shown below.
If God is a trinity of "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" (all co-equally omnipotent) then it would be nonsensical to say one can be blasphemed and forgiven, while another one can't be, without any mention of the third one at all. This is because the Son isn't God in accordance with trinitarianism being a false idea of God. You seem close to figuring it out.
Matthew 12
31Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the one to come.
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I understand them as one in the nature of God. (Rom 1:20, Acts 17:29)
Rom 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
Act 17:29 "Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man.
As the word "Godhead or Deity" with Strong#G2320, in Greek "θεότης theotēs" Bible lexicon defined it as means - the nature or state of being God, deity, divine nature, divine being.
Thus, the Three are one and the same in the nature of God but separate and distinct person to one another.
Col 2:9 For in Him allG3956 the R1fullnessG4138 of DeityG2320 dwellsG2730 in bodilyG4985 formG4985,
G2320
θεότης theotēs
the nature or state of being God - 'deity, divine nature, divine being.
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)
Runningman you skip my Post#369. Why?
On the third? Did Jesus made a mistake when He said, the Father will forgive our transgressions?
Bible lexicon defined it as sin.
Do preconceived beliefs always hinder us to see the truth Runningman?
Mat 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
Mar 11:25 "WheneverG3752 you R1standG4739 prayingG4336, R2forgiveG863, ifG1487 you haveG2192 anythingG5100 againstG2596 anyoneG5100, soG2443 that your FatherG3962 whoG3588 is in heavenG3772 will alsoG2532 forgiveG863 you your transgressionsG3900.
G3900
παράπτωμα paraptōma
Thayer Definition:
1) to fall beside or near something
2) a lapse or deviation from truth and uprightness
2a) a sin, misdeed
Runningman
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Correct. Only the Father forgives sins in heaven. That's what we are saying. You seem to be catching on.
