civic
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And your words came back to bite you. The Apostles talked to Christ in heaven praying to Him.
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The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus
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civic
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Amen to the truth
Runningman
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No even though they may believe it is.
Runningman
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Jesus never was in your imagined idolatrous godhead.
Runningman
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No, they didn't pray to him. As you have already tried and failed, you have not shown a verse that says anyone prayed to Jesus.
Runningman
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No I didn't say simply talking is a prayer. You're the one lying. That's a sin bucko.
Oh, so when you talk to someone you're praying to them?
civic
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Yes they did since they talked with Him and asked Him to answer their requests. You are just in a state of De Nile.
civic
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Runningman
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Let's quote exactly what I said to lay to rest your false accusations. pay attention @David Koberstein
Talking to God is a prayer. I didn't say "talking is prayer." Jesus isn't God in Scripture.
Runningman
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When you believe you're praying to Jesus, by whose authority are you praying to Jesus? Verse?
David Koberstein
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The word "trinity" is not found in Scripture, so there is no need to extract from any believer a
confession of the Trinity. But that which the word refers---what John Fischer calls God's
"unique unity"---is non negotiable: God is in fact Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. For this there
is more than adequate scriptural proof, consisting of not only many verses in the New Testament,
but some hints in the Tanakh as well. Some wish to regard Yeshua as "less than" the Father.
This can be done within the framework of orthodox Christian theology, because any orthodox
theology of God's inner nature must deal with both equality and hierarchy. On the one hand
Father, Son and Holy Spirit are equal; on the other, the Father is greater than the Son, and both
are greater than the Holy Spirit. Again, there is no shortage of scriptural proofs for both aspects.
Shalom שלום
Lehitra’ot להתראות
David Koberstein
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Amen to that!!
civic
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Talking to Jesus or the Father is identical since the Apostles were requesting the Son answer them.
Your presuppositions are blocking you from hearing and believing the TRUTH concerning the son.
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civic
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Runningman
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Um... I simply do what Jesus taught in Matthew 6:6,9 which is pray to the Father. No one ever taught about praying to Jesus in the Bible. You're free to make up your own rules, but it isn't Christian to do so. We Christians follow the teachings of Jesus so that's what I do.
Runningman
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God and all of the prophets didn't record it in Scripture. I won't believe it.
civic
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not my rules but what the Apostles taught us to do PRAY to the LORD.
There is only One Lord whom the N.T. identifies as the Son- not the Father.
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David Koberstein
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Yochanan (John) 14: 6-7
Yeshua said, "I AM the way --- and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except through me.
Because you have known me, you will know my Father; from now on you do know him --- in fact,
you have seen him."
Complete Jewish Bible
civic
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yes and notice no prophet or apostle ever said or claimed to see them was the same as seeing God.
but watch the DE NILES come lol.
