The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

David Koberstein said:
I and others have already proved it but you weren't smart enough to realize that.


No you haven't. The greatest minds in your religion have ultimately concluded the basis of it all is ultimately a mystery
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David Koberstein said:
Quit peddling your false doctrines, nobody is buying it. Take your heresy roadshow down the road.



Good luck making me. You'll need it.
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Runningman said:
A master is a lord, the better translation is teacher and lord and yes I call him both. God made Jesus both Lord, Teacher, and Christ. When will you believe?

John 8
28So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing on My own, but speak exactly what the Father has taught Me.

Acts 2
36Therefore let all Israel know with certainty that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ!”
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I call Him both myself. You're the one not recognizing Master. A better translation is Master. If you want to deal with the manuscript evidence and the historical etymology of the Greek source. Go for it another thread.
 
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praise_yeshua said:
I call Him both myself. You're the one not recognizing Master. A better translation is Master. If you want to deal with the manuscript evidence and the historical etymology if the Greek source. Go for it another thread.
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Master means lord and lord means master. Jesus being a "master and a master" is spurious. It's actually better to say teacher and lord.
 
Runningman said:
Master means lord and lord means master. Jesus being a "master and a master" is spurious. It's actually better to say teacher and lord.
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Ridiculous. Do you even know English?

Master = a man who has people working for him, especially servants or slaves.

Lord = a man of noble rank or high office; a peer.

Jesus is your Master. You're His slave. You're the Master of no one.
 
Runningman said:
Not according to Scripture. The One Lord over all is the Father.

Ephesians 4
4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
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You made my case as the Father is not the one Lord in that passage it’s Jesus
 
Runningman said:
Not according to Scripture. The One Lord over all is the Father.

Ephesians 4
4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
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That confirms Christ alone is the One Lord.


1 Cor 8:6
and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Eph 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism

Rom 10:9-13
1 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."

1 Cor 1:2
To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:

Jude 4
and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
 
In the bible, there are many examples of people praying directly to Jesus.

  • As Stephen is being killed in the book of Acts, he prays, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit” (Acts 7:59).
  • The penultimate verse in the Bible is a prayer to Jesus: “Amen. Come, Lord Jesus” (Rev 22:20).
  • The apostle Paul himself prayed to “the Lord” (see 2 Cor 12:8, a title Paul frequently applied to Jesus).
Examples like this give us a precedent for doing the same – it is good, right, and proper to pray to Jesus.


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Adherent said:
In the bible, there are many examples of people praying directly to Jesus.

  • As Stephen is being killed in the book of Acts, he prays, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit” (Acts 7:59).
  • The penultimate verse in the Bible is a prayer to Jesus: “Amen. Come, Lord Jesus” (Rev 22:20).
  • The apostle Paul himself prayed to “the Lord” (see 2 Cor 12:8, a title Paul frequently applied to Jesus).
Examples like this give us a precedent for doing the same – it is good, right, and proper to pray to Jesus.


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Great!

Not only this but it is Jesus who answers prayers.

Joh 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
 
Adherent said:
In the bible, there are many examples of people praying directly to Jesus.

  • As Stephen is being killed in the book of Acts, he prays, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit” (Acts 7:59).
  • The penultimate verse in the Bible is a prayer to Jesus: “Amen. Come, Lord Jesus” (Rev 22:20).
  • The apostle Paul himself prayed to “the Lord” (see 2 Cor 12:8, a title Paul frequently applied to Jesus).
Examples like this give us a precedent for doing the same – it is good, right, and proper to pray to Jesus.


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Amen as believers pray to Him. :)

I have never met a born again believer that doesn't pray to Jesus-

That would be an OXYMORON. :)
 
David Koberstein said:
Yes exactly, why is it so hard for Runningman to understand this? I can tolerate small differences in Scripture with believers, but major differences in biblical doctrine and major tenets of Scripture to me is nonnegotiable.
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They are trying to separate the Father and The Son. There is no other explanation for it.

Such comes from a very dark place. We either glorify the Son or we are in serious trouble....

Joh_16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Joh 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
 

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