The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

[Runningman]

No it doesn't. Jesus said "destroy this flesh".

Which is a prophecy.

 

[mikesw]

It's simply a grammatical construction where the subject of the sentence is the recipient of the action as opposed to the subject of the sentence being the doer of the action. This is one of the many ways we can make language comprehensible. Your losing war is against language and Scripture.

John 2:22 not being in the active voice is proof against your claims.

John does not have to state that Jesus was active in his resurrection in John 2:22. This does not exclude Jesus raising himself from the grave. The passive verb does not say someone else raised him, so you have no argument anymore.

 

[Runningman]

The power is in His Divinity. Not His flesh.

Get it?

What power do you have in your flesh?

Jesus died and was powerless to resurrect himself. Which is why nothing in the Bible says "the son resurrected Jesus" or something of the like.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Because you're contradicting John 2:22 which proves Jesus received a resurrection, not did a resurrection.

No. He is referencing power. The source of the power.....

 

[Runningman]

John does not have to state that Jesus was active in his resurrection in John 2:22. This does not exclude Jesus raising himself from the grave. The passive verb does not say someone else raised him, so you have no argument anymore.

Yes John has to state that in the active voice if he wants others to believe that Jesus resurrected himself. His words are clear that he does not agree with you.

 

[Runningman]

No. He is referencing power. The source of the power.....

Which would be the Father who is God.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Jesus died and was powerless to resurrect himself. Which is why nothing in the Bible says "the son resurrected Jesus" or something of the like.

Yeah... you really do love Jesus alright......

Does the Father love Jesus?

 

[mikesw]

Your strategy seems to be to exhaust the debate with repeating what was already stated in my last reply.

You said Jonah prophesied about 3 days and that Jesus repeated that. So I am asking where you find Jonah's prophecy.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Which would be the Father.

No. It is clear....

"I WILL RAISE IT AGAIN".....

Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

 

[Runningman]

You said Jonah prophesied about 3 days and that Jesus repeated that. So I am asking where you find Jonah's prophecy.

I already quoted Jesus repeating Jonah's words.

 

[Runningman]

Yeah... you really do love Jesus alright......

Does the Father love Jesus?

So you have run out of points?

 

[praise_yeshua]

Which would be the Father who is God.

Do you do things together with God?

You don't know how to make an argument. You're young and inexperienced.

 

[mikesw]

Yes John has to state that in the active voice if he wants others to believe that Jesus resurrected himself. His words are clear that he does not agree with you.

You are too desperate to defend bad doctrine that you pretend what John 2:22 conveys so you think you can avoid repentance.

 

[Runningman]

No. It is clear....

"I WILL RAISE IT AGAIN".....

Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

Then after that, the very same one who said "I will raise it again" is said to not be the one who raised himself in John 2:22. Grammar basics 101, Bible 101. It's because Jesus gave a prophecy. Should be clear.

 

[praise_yeshua]

So you have run out of points?

Not at all. My primary point is that you don't love Jesus. You show how you don't love Jesus in every post you make. You are condemning yourself. You need to fall. Keep going and condemn yourself over and over again.

 

[Runningman]

Do you do things together with God?

You don't know how to make an argument. You're young and inexperienced.

John 2:22 makes my argument for me.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Then after that, the very same one who said "I will raise it again" is said to not be the one who raised himself in John 2:22. Grammar basics 101, Bible 101. It's because Jesus gave a prophecy. Should be clear.

Verse 22 isn't an island to itself. Grammar basics 101.

 

[Runningman]

You are too desperate to defend bad doctrine that you pretend what John 2:22 conveys so you think you can avoid repentance.

You're at the point of inferring John is a liar because you are desperate to keep your idol. You've already floated the idea that Jesus is a sinner and false prophet because he didn't raise himself from the dead. Anyone else say anything in prophecy that they didn't literally do? Are they all lying?

 

[praise_yeshua]

John 2:22 makes my argument for me.

No it doesn't. You're just like every "kid" I've ever meet. You get hung and you start repeating yourself as if you didn't hear anything.

 

[Runningman]

Verse 22 isn't an island to itself. Grammar basics 101.

The rest of the Bible doesn't mention a peep about Jesus resurrecting himself.