civic
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answer the questions and quit diverting and dodging the two I asked.
Refuting effectually caused faith
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brightfame52
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Did Lazarus resurrect himself from death ?
civic
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brightfame52
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Did Lazarus resurrect himself from death ?
civic
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brightfame52
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Yes he was a believer, and loved by God. So he died from a sickness, and as Jesus said to his sisters Lazarus is dead Jn 11:14
Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.
so now, did Lazarus raise himself from the dead ?
civic
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so your dead theory is mute.
brightfame52
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Jesus said Lazarus is Dead Jn 11 14 is that mute ?
Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.
God does when they believe
https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/refuting-effectually-caused-faith.1295/post-94676
and you are still contradicted by scripture
Acts 10:43 (KJV 1900) — 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
brightfame52
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Even the act of believing is a gift. No one is saved because they believe, but they believe because they are saved. The gift comes first then the benefit. The cause comes first then the effect. The cause of a man’s believing is grace granting the gift of faith. The believing is the end result. Grace comes first, then salvation and believing. Believing is not a work of man’s, but a gift from God by grace. “who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace” Acts 18:27
Believing here is due to or caused by Grace !
Believing here is due to or caused by Grace !
Behold
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Every person born is "given the measure of Faith".
We all have this.. We are all born with the capacity to BELIEVE.
This is why some BELIEVE in the "Big Bang Theory", and others "BELIEVE" in Scientology, or "the Theory of Evolution"
Some use their FAITH, to BELIEVE that there is no hell.
Some use their FAITH to believe that Allah has 63 virgins waiting for them, if they will kill some Jews, and die doing it.
Some use their Faith to Believe that Mary is going to meet them when they die.
Reader,
do you see all that BELIEVING?
That is "everyone has the measure of Faith"......as God gave this to us all..and that is why everyone believes in something..
Now,
What God requires, is that you take your FAITH, and give it to Him... as Faith in Christ..
That is what God requires of us, before He will take us as His own.
A.) OUR "faith is counted by God as (Christ's) Righteousness"
God is not looking for His faith......>He's looking for YOURS.
Lying Calvinism, teaches that you have no faith, and no capacity to trust in Christ........as you are too "totally depraved" to do it.
WhenIn fact, anyone can Trust in Christ, and everyone is welcome to do so.
praise_yeshua
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There is no reason to define the "measure of faith" relative to the arguments between Calvinism and Arminianism. They are both wrong. We do not have to chose one or the other.
The "measure of faith" is relative to how we fit in the Body of the Lord Jesus Christ relative to service. It has nothing to do with any doctrine centering around "Total Depravity".
Behold
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I can't quite connect to the mentality of a so called Christian, who would even consider that these 2 men, Calvin and Joseph A, are worth the time it takes to put their theology in a dumpster.
Dittlo Joseph Smith, and most of the Catholic "Church Fathers".
How is it, that these 2 men, have mind control over so many, who literally have learned their Theology, and live by it.
When in fact, Its Paul's Doctrine that is vitally important, not the confused and often Satanic works of Calvin.... And Joseph A., is just one more teacher, yet people are trapped by his theology.
Im not.
And you need not be, reader.
Behold
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Everyone has faith, as we are born with it.
What God requires is that we take OUR faith and place it in Christ, before we die, or we die "in our sins" and will go to Hell, as to die unforgiven, having never trusted in Christ, never born again, is to commit the unpardonable sin.. .. that is the Hebrews 10 sin, of "willful sinning".
Thousands died today, having committed it..., and many were water baptized and were taught that "the water washed away your sin".
It didnt, and Hell showed them it didnt.
So, when we take OUR faith, and place our faith in Christ......... then God's GRACE, accepts OUR FAITH in Christ... and He justifies us, by accepting our Faith as righteousness.
Brain dead Calvinism, and its bastard step child TULIP, were created by people who are Cross denying Heretics who deny John 3:16, and Deny God's Grace, and reject the Truth regarding The Cross of Christ as God Designed it to be freely given. to "all who will come" "whosoever will believe".
Calvinism and TULIP will get you killed, also.... Reader/.
How.....Because once you are brain locked by this "doctrine of devils" and your mind is completely blinded by this obsession with "pre-destined" everything.. then when Satan gives you cancer, or something worse.. you are so CALVINISED and so TULIP'd that you will falsely believe that God gave it to you, and now you can't pray to God for a healing because you BELIEVE that God is causing your Cancer, or your blood disease, or your Kidney Failure, or your blindness.
So you will die.
See that?
Satan is laughing at you... on your way to the grave.
Why? Because He killed you with the disease + Calvinism + TULIP>...by having you believe that God caused it.. "pre-destined" it.
A.) Calvin and TULIP just KILLED you...., and the Devil did it to you, and you went to the grave early....= falsely believing that GOD "Pre-destined" your death by disease, that sent you to the grave, early.
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Calvinism is contrary to scripture
John 12:40 (KJV 1900) — 40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
God blinded men to prevent their belief. Why would God blind someone who had no ability to see?
Why prevent from believing those who had no capacity for belief
Luke notes had men not grown hardened they could have believed
Acts 28:27 (KJV 1900) — 27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
unregenerate men are shown to receive the word with joy and believe
Luke 8:13 (KJV 1900) — 13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Behold
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Calvinism and its evolved evil twin : TULIP.. are defined by Hebrews 13:9, as a man made "doctrine of DEVILS".
They are nothing less, and both are absolutely full of the Devil.
Said nowhere in scripture
Behold
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A doctrine of devils, is always contrary to scripture.
How can it not be?
Now....Consider the first bible corrector.
"Satan".. .as he said to Eve...>"hath God said"... so that is a bible corrector.. the Original...... and in '2024, his ministers are saying..."its the original greek" that is the word, not the BIBLE.
When in fact there is no single original Greek Text "extant" that is original.
It does not exist on this Earth, or in the known universe.
Reader, listen..
there are about 30 completed NT's in K. Greek, and the "scholarship" uses about 4 of them... that are "accepted".. and deemed "not corrupted" to henceforth = spew out the next "new versions"..
So, the liar, now stands in a pulpit or comes to a forum and says.>>>>"let me show you the original KOINE greek, as it says right here".. (let me correct the bible)....with a language that i dont read but i can copy and paste it to fool the kiddies..
Problem?
Well, There is no "original greek text".......as the Greek manuscripts are all copies of copies.....The only original would be the Apostle's Letters, and those are not available in your local Bible Bookstore, or in your Fancy Vatican.
So, you have a "shell game".. being played by carnal bible correctors, fools all, who want to sit in self appointed authority over the BIBLE, with their "original Greek" that does not even exist, and most of them can't read or write "koine Greek".
How many Christians Realize this is happening in Churches, on TV, in Commentaries, and on "christian forums'?
Well, a few more on this forum, just found out, if they are paying attention.......
My fancy Vatican?
I am not Catholic
Are you arguing for the received majority text over the more modern texts?
