e v e
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of course He died and suffered to pay for my sin
and make it even possible to be saved and
return to paradise.
but that's not what @sethproton asked me.
I was answering his question.
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and make it even possible to be saved and
return to paradise.
but that's not what @sethproton asked me.
I was answering his question.
e v e
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this below is my personal experience...
I met Him and that started me off, as part I
as now my soul is promised to Him...
and I repented my life and past,
and literally left it behind. literally,
I have no life here anymore except waiting for Him.
part II will be that His souls will meet Him on the clouds... and be Restored to our original situation which is eden Paradise and then some
for never again will we be hurt by the satanic realm and fall.
I miss eden paradise very much and am expectant to return..
for He showed me what we lost
though these days no one remembers anymore...
and chalks it all up as myth or fantasy,
so degraded have things gotten.
In heaven I already know some of my job -
for He showed me -
... i will spend some of my time loving and caring and comforting the little ones in paradise...
and of course with God all the time.
mystery babylon and its esau type entities
are not going to be in heaven...
and no more will they oppress us
like they do here.
I met Him and that started me off, as part I
as now my soul is promised to Him...
and I repented my life and past,
and literally left it behind. literally,
I have no life here anymore except waiting for Him.
part II will be that His souls will meet Him on the clouds... and be Restored to our original situation which is eden Paradise and then some
for never again will we be hurt by the satanic realm and fall.
I miss eden paradise very much and am expectant to return..
for He showed me what we lost
though these days no one remembers anymore...
and chalks it all up as myth or fantasy,
so degraded have things gotten.
In heaven I already know some of my job -
for He showed me -
... i will spend some of my time loving and caring and comforting the little ones in paradise...
and of course with God all the time.
mystery babylon and its esau type entities
are not going to be in heaven...
and no more will they oppress us
like they do here.
sethproton
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paradise is a place of the dead in the Bible and that's where you met Jesus? You have tacitly admitted that you don't read the Bible, none of your ideas are from the Bible or agree with it.
Diserner
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sethproton
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When Jesus told the thief "Today you will be with Me in paradise." Where did Jesus go that Friday?
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Diserner
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I encourage you to study Jesus' parable of the rich man and Lazarus.
Don't use the excuse "parables can't be trusted" as their very point was to teach us essential truths.
sethproton
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What kind of a chat can we have if you refuse to answer questions and points made? Where was Jesus Friday after He died. that the thief would be with Him?
Diserner
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What kind of chat can we have if you refuse to study God's Word?
I'm afraid I put God's Word above your questions!
And I won't apologize for that friend.
e v e
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eden was desolated after the fall...
her lovely souls now in bondage
to mystery babylon because of adam ...
but that situation is undone by Christ,
and at His return paradise will be restored
and the sons will rule forever with Christ
what i said in the previous posts
was not based on 'ideas' as you described it....
but was an experience
which He gave to me....
there was no theology ...
so I don't know what you are saying ...
... i was in heaven
our paradise
and saw and felt
His love, power, glory, and beauty
for two hours I saw His gorgeous
Home for us soon
sethproton
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that is a silly satement. I am asking you specifically what jESUS meant and you won't answer and say you are putting God's word above my question, According to scripture where was Jesus after He died on Friday. how was the theif with Him on Friday
You say you won't apologize when no one has asked you to, how many manys will misdirect the chat before you answer the question? How was Jesus with the theif in paradise on Friday
sethproton
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ok, Eve. Thanks for the time and effort
Diserner
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Did you notice I asked a question first, and you completed ignored me?
Did you think about how hypocritical it was to chastise me for ignoring your question when you first completely ignored mine?
Is that your idea of a fair and honest chat where you reflect God's character?
Jesus went to Paradise which was in the heart of the earth.
When the saints resurrected, Jesus "led captivity captive and gave gifts to men," taking Paradise with him to heaven.
There's no sin against that.
Don't reprimand me for things that are not morally wrong, please.
Sheol had two compartments, and Abraham's bosom was one of them. This was lifted up to the third heaven with Christ's ascension.
Now care not to be a hyprocrite and show the same morals you demand of others?
What was Paul's third heaven?
sethproton
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1, what was the question you asked first. tell the post # an repeat the questio and I will answer it. I agree it is better to answer question ignore them and ask your own, better communication that way
2. Third heaven (you asked this after my intial question ignoring that question) You have to conjecture about Third Heaven as scripture does not define or describe it.
3, where do you read taking pardise to heaven?
civic
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I think she was using paradise as a synonym for heaven
Diserner
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It's generally used that way.
Diserner
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We do things in the Bible called "deductions."
Some truths must be logically inferred, including the Trinity.
e v e
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thank you @sethproton
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e v e
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not to start anything again with anyone but ...
when i say paradise I meant where adam and eve were, which is now desolate, sheol.
the new earth is paradise,
restored eden paradise.
I do interchange eden and heaven..
by paradise I mean eden paradise
which is not , was not ever
upon this current earth.
when i say paradise I meant where adam and eve were, which is now desolate, sheol.
the new earth is paradise,
restored eden paradise.
I do interchange eden and heaven..
by paradise I mean eden paradise
which is not , was not ever
upon this current earth.
e v e
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I was using it that way
but I guess we will find out soon!
just simpler to say in posts
that we are going to heaven.
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