No-I'm not Jewish.are you jewish?
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No-I'm not Jewish.are you jewish?
okay.No-I'm not Jewish.
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You don't use Scripture references and said Adam did not die-simple as that.what do you think about what I originally said?
So Adam did not die and currently works for the satanic realm?No. He is the ruler of this world...
and works for the satanic realm.
Any Scripture references to this claim?
The most amazing chapter-
Isa 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
i'm not gnostic. please avoid subtle third person attacks/name calling/ad homs.You will notice there are Gnostic beliefs based on:
1. The physical body and world is somehow evil, instead of the spiritual moral dimension behind it.
2. The Bible has been corrupted and needs to be interpreted in the light of other ancient mystical texts.
3. Denial of the Trinity and the Atonement as "gnostic" (wrong definition of gnosticism).
Just a heads up.
And I love Isaiah 53, spent massive amount of time there.
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Adam was responsible not to, yetSo Adam did not die and currently works for the satanic realm?
Any Scripture references to this claim?
I will be kind. I hope that disagreements are not in the third person as allusions to others, from now on, and if someone disagrees, just say so without labels, to the person you disagree with and not 'about them.'. : )I'm going to need some cooperation here folks I'm getting a few complaints about us being disrespectful towards each other. That's really the main rule we have here. So please help me out and let's do what Jesus told us to do which was love one another. I know sometimes we can get frustrated when we can't seem to communicate. Remember that movie with Paul Newman Cool Hand Luke? What we have here is a failure to communicate. All I know that we can communicate quite well or we wouldn't be here. Let's just do it in a kind loving civilized manner. Thank you
I've known you long enough to know you are not gnostic. As a professor you know your history and what Gnosticism teaches. You are well versed in the early church heresies.Since it was hinted, true that I read other texts. It is called study the enemy! Egyptian texts are opposed to God. Gnostics merge those texts to Christianity. I do not do that. I see them as enemy texts. Do they mention adam and eden? yes, in very disparaging lines, often.
I'm going to need some cooperation here folks I'm getting a few complaints about us being disrespectful towards each other. That's really the main rule we have here. So please help me out and let's do what Jesus told us to do which was love one another. I know sometimes we can get frustrated when we can't seem to communicate. Remember that movie with Paul Newman Cool Hand Luke? What we have here is a failure to communicate. All I know that we can communicate quite well or we wouldn't be here. Let's just do it in a kind loving civilized manner. Thank you
I've known you long enough to know you are not gnostic. As a professor you know your history and what Gnosticism teaches. You are well versed in the early church heresies.
the hatred in those pagan texts, be it vedic texts or egyptian ones, is directed at eden and God... adam is characterized a bit differently but no need to go into it here.Since it was hinted, true that I read other texts. It is called study the enemy! Egyptian texts are opposed to God. Gnostics merge those texts to Christianity. I do not do that. I see them as enemy texts. Do they mention adam and eden? yes, in very disparaging lines, often.
i think it is scriptural that this body is not the one He gave us in eden, it has different features, and that eden was not on this earth, again different in many ways. That said, I am not going to 'argue it.' these are not debate focused forums and I don't debate. I'm sharing what I understand. Yes I read enoch and other texts. Just because I don't lock into only Augustine selected books doesn't invalidate my view. What matters is if I can hear Him.The Gnostics have historically condemned the physical world and fleshly body as "evil."
This is not a Biblical claim.
But everyone seems to claim "gnosticism" as their go-to boogeyman to make the other side illegitimate.
Thank you for your concern and I'm sure this will all be worked out. I haven't responded to anyone in the private message the above post is all I have to say on the matter. We realize that discussions can become heated and frustrating and as human beings what are natural tendencies are.I would urge a thoughtful consideration between hostile intent with legitimate insults, and a valid criticism of a doctrinal position.
Some may decide to be oversensitive drama llamas and claim everything they don't like is a personal assault.
Even when I've been treated downright awful so many times and I don't go crying to the mods.
Some people go there when nothing legitimately wrong was even done.
So let's not "go woke" where everything becomes "racism."