Even in John 1, Jesus is not God

[APAK]

Yet there is only ONE Lord, Is Jesus Lord? or is the Father Lord? Which is it?

They are one and the same. Father = Lord. Jesus = Lord. Holy Spirit = Lord. For they are ALL the same God.

In Hebrew, the word ‘Adoni’ pronounced ‘Andon-ee’ means’ my lord’ in English. They meant master(s), rulers, and never the one God Almighty.

The word ‘Adoni’ Is used about 195 times in the OT for a created superiors over men, even angels.

So, in its context of the verse, the phrase within it ‘my lord’ means the Messiah, and superior and glorified human being.

Now Adonai sometimes written as ‘Adonay,’ is used for the one true God, my Lord, and never anyone else.

Adonai is referred to God but Adoni to human superiors.

Adoni — ref. to men: my lord, my master [see Ps. 110:1]

Adonai — ref. to God…Lord (Brown, Driver, Briggs, Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament, under adon [= lord]).

“The form ADONI (‘my lord’), a royal title (I Sam. 29:8), is to be carefully distinguished from the divine title ADONAI (‘my Lord’) used of Yahweh.” “ADONAI — the special plural form [the divine title] distinguishes it from adonai [with short vowel] = my lords” (International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, “Lord,” p. 157).

(Psa 110:1) Yahweh says to my (l)Lord, Sit at My right hand, until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet. (NEV)

Can you see the clear distinction now Doug?

 

[101G]

That is a hint about you. Rabbit holes incorporated.

you can go and sit down and really learn.

101G.

 

[GeneZ]

you can go and sit down and really learn.

101G.

OK... I will watch and learn how the blind attempt to find other blind to lead.....

 

[Wrangler]

In Hebrew, the word ‘Adoni’ pronounced ‘Andon-ee’ means’ my lord’ in English. They meant master(s), rulers, and never the one God Almighty.

I've come to recognize trinitarians deliberately rely on intellectual dishonesty to support their doctrine.

They know what you write is true and undeniable. Yet, they sadly double down on their intellectual dishonesty. There are verses were the one God Almighty is referred to as master, ruler, etc. So, they extrapolate that to mean every reference of Adoni (my lord) does refer the Adonai, YHHW.

This explains their cognitive dissonance in reconciling Psalm 110:1, which obviously is referring to 2 Beings: God Almighty is talking to our master.

Adonai says to my Lord

 

[Brakelite]

I've come to recognize trinitarians deliberately rely on intellectual dishonesty to support their doctrine.

They know what you write is true and undeniable. Yet, they sadly double down on their intellectual dishonesty. There are verses were the one God Almighty is referred to as master, ruler, etc. So, they extrapolate that to mean every reference of Adoni (my lord) does refer the Adonai, YHHW.

This explains their cognitive dissonance in reconciling Psalm 110:1, which obviously is referring to 2 Beings: God Almighty is talking to our master.

Adonai says to my Lord

I sort of agree with you. The one God says to His Son...I get it. What most do not get, and I refer to die hard trinitarians and Unitarians, is the actual nature of God's Son. He's a begotten Son. Not created... Not made... Not adopted... Begotten in the express image of His Father. I am begotten in the image of my father, but imperfectly. However, although an imperfect image, I am most assuredly a son, but more importantly, a human son. So does a perfect God beget imperfection? Of course not. He begets an express image of Himself. A perfect reproduction in character and nature. Not only a Son, but a Son of God. What else can he possibly be if not God? Human? No, because He was begotten before creation of human beings, and in fact instrumental in their creation. Spirit being? Undoubtedly. But because He was begotten and not created, He could not be of the same nature of the angels. He was begotten in the nature of God His Father. God begotten.

 

[Wrangler]

He's a begotten Son. Not created... Not made... Not adopted

Begotten mean created. Son mean created. Look it up.

Regarding being adopted, Acts 17:31 emphasizes that God selected this man. If Jesus were any kind or part of God, such an absurd verse meaning ‘God selected a man, who is himself in the form of a man’ would never be written because it serves no purpose and violates 2 Cor 1:13 (VOICE) We are not writing to you in anything resembling codes or riddles.
Colossians 3:12 points out that we too are chosen by God. John 1:12 says that we too are sons and daughters of God. So, while Jesus was the only son of God, as all firstborns are, he is no longer the only son of God. This is the theological inheritance the Bible speaks of. Jesus is one of ‘us’ (teaching us to pray to God as a brother to our father), not one of ‘them’ (pray to me or to F, S & HS).

 

[Wrangler]

Not only a Son, but a Son of God.

We are all sons and daughters of God, 100% the same as the man Jesus.

 

[Wrangler]

What else can he possibly be if not God? Human? No

Yes. Jesus is human. The Bible repeatedly defines Jesus as a man.

 

[Wrangler]

He was begotten in the nature of God His Father.

The most important fact of the Bible is that Jesus died. Jesus death demonstrates he lack the most important quality of God's existence - eternally unchanging.

 

[101G]

OK... I will watch and learn how the blind attempt to find other blind to lead.....

Good now open your ears because your eyes are still shut.

We are all sons and daughters of God, 100% the same as the man Jesus.

this is the most Ignorant video so for.

A. Acts 17:27 "That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:" Acts 17:28 "For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring."

B. THE FIRST BORN, and Originated in Heaven, My God. Colossians 1:15 "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:" Colossians 1:16 "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:" Colossians 1:17 "And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." Colossians 1:18 "And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence."

this guy is a classic example of a deceiving spirit.

101G.

 

[101G]

The most important fact of the Bible is that Jesus died. Jesus death demonstrates he lack the most important quality of God's existence - eternally unchanging.

died which death? only the Natural death. remember there are two Deaths..... (smile). and Natural death is of the Body and not the soul, or spirit. Wrangler you should have known this, this is basic bible study.

now why his Body died and not the Nature... "Spirit", because the LIFE, LIFE, LIFE, of the Body is the blood. My God, this is simple Bible. the only thing about the Lord Jesus was the death of the Natural body.

you said, "Jesus death demonstrates he lack the most important quality of God's existence - eternally unchanging."
did the Lord Jesus change? no, listen and Learn. Hebrews 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;" he took on flesh and blood in order to die from flesh and blood. another basic blunder on your part. what he took on is what he took off..... hello ... anyone home. so he did not change in any fashion ,,,,,, NATURE WISE.

so try again.

101G.

 

[101G]

To all,
One need to understand two factors here.
A. Know the difference between Son of Man and Son of God.

B. Know the difference between "Partake" vs "Took Part". this is basic bible study one should know these things.

101G.

 

[Wrangler]

the firstborn from the dead

This is the positive proof that Jesus must be a human like us. He cannot be the first fruit unless there is like that follows it.

 

[101G]

This is the positive proof that Jesus must be a human like us. He cannot be the first fruit unless there is like that follows it.

ERROR became LIKE, LIKE, LIKE us so we may become Like him.
scripture, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" Philippians 2:8 "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

A. is there any one "EQUAL TO GOD?" no, but is there someone "EQUAL WITH GOD?" yes. ..... (smile).

B. is the Lord Jesus is a Man? yes, in Human Flesh with blood which he took on..... took on...... took on, meaning in LIKENESS. for man is the "IMAGE" of the invisible God which now MANIFESTED for all to see.

C. so, his Nature never changed, per Phil. 2:6. and in LIKENESS as, a Man, Per Phil 2:6 & 5. that he took on as, as, as, as, as a Man.

sotry again.

101G.

 

[101G]

He cannot be the first fruit unless there is like that follows it.

yes, in the RESURRECTION.

101G.

 

[Wrangler]

ERROR became LIKE, LIKE, LIKE us so we may become Like him.

No. The Bible says Jesus is only a man.

 

[101G]

No. The Bible says Jesus is only a man.

like a man, now try gagin.

101G

 

[GeneZ]

I've come to recognize trinitarians deliberately rely on intellectual dishonesty to support their doctrine.

Well.. why not shift positions then?

You should feel right at home.

 

[101G]

No. The Bible says Jesus is only a man.

if the Lord Jesus was a man as you and I are..... please post his Biological Blood Mother, and Biological Blood father Name.
101G can't wait for your answer.

101G.

 

[101G]

Well.. why not shift positions then?

from the frying pan to the fire? why not go with the TRUTH.

101G.