Doctrine of Unconditional Election

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The Fruit of Unconditional Election,

One of the Blessed Fruits of Gods Election of His People is Sanctification of the Spirit,

1 Pet 1:2

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Cp What the Apostle Paul stated 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Those who were Chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4 its a sure thing that one day they will undergo the Sanctifying work of the Spirit.

 

[civic]

The Fruit of Unconditional Election,

One of the Blessed Fruits of Gods Election of His People is Sanctification of the Spirit,

1 Pet 1:2

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Cp What the Apostle Paul stated 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Those who were Chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4 its a sure thing that one day they will undergo the Sanctifying work of the Spirit.

its actually fruitless since its an unbiblical doctrine created by depraved and uninspired men.

 

[brightfame52]

its actually fruitless since its an unbiblical doctrine created by depraved and uninspired men.

Those who were Chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4 its a sure thing that one day they will undergo the Sanctifying work of the Spirit unto obedience to the Faith

 

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the true concept is that His souls are simply all the souls who He brought forth in eden paradise before the fall...
those who came from Him
... all of us here today of His souls are of that group
who He knew before time began (the fallen situation)

obsessing over chosen and elect is misunderstanding the concepts anyway...


out of all His souls, a smaller group goes home first, at the rapture... who are the 144k...

and later greater jacob out of whom that smaller group came from..
will also go home...but unfortunately not at rapture
and unfortunately jacob will go through tribulation...

jacob is most believers...

the darby version wrongly assumes only that smaller group is to be saved from here. NOT true.

that darby version is evil and depraved and assumes God is a monster imo.

 

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More on the fruit of unconditional election,

Sanctification of the Spirit is equivalent to New Birth of the Spirit, then Faith follows or its equivalent belief of the Truth, which presupposes a effectual Divine Call, and eventually Glorification.

2 Thess 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ 9

 

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Benefits of election in Christ !

Eph 1:3-7

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

The elect are and will be holy and without blame before God in Love, that's a benefit of election. Vs 4

They are and will be blessed with all spiritual blessings Vs 3

Predestination unto adoption of Children by Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of Gods will Vs5

Acceptance in the beloved Vs 6

Redemption and forgiveness of sins through Jesus blood according to the riches of Gods Grace Vs 7

 

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Those whom God has chosen to Salvation, the Election of Grace, they in time will experience sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth, by which they ar called 2 Thess 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

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Those whom God has chosen to Salvation, the Election of Grace, they in time will experience sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth, by which they ar called 2 Thess 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Massive failure on your part to understand that Paul's audience in Thessalonians is already faithful regenerated believers and not part of a calvinist Elect/non-Elect Caste System. We are Christian believers, not Caste System believers. Do you understand?

Let's look at 2 Th 2:13 without your Caste System glasses on.

(2 Th 2:13) But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brothers beloved of the Lord, because God has from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth,

It's people like those in the Audience, who already believe in the truth and are undergoing sanctification, they are the ones elected by God. Your Monergistic Caste System beliefs just crashed and burned.

 

[civic]

Massive failure on your part to understand that Paul's audience in Thessalonians is already faithful regenerated believers and not part of a calvinist Elect/non-Elect Caste System. We are Christian believers, not Caste System believers. Do you understand?

Let's look at 2 Th 2:13 without your Caste System glasses on.

(2 Th 2:13) But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brothers beloved of the Lord, because God has from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth,

It's people like those in the Audience, who already believe in the truth and are undergoing sanctification, they are the ones elected by God. Your Monergistic Caste System beliefs just crashed and burned.

Yes he is talking about those who were already converted and following Christ. this is just like those who already listen and learn from the Father are those who are drawn to the Son.

 

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Massive failure on your part to understand that Paul's audience in Thessalonians is already faithful regenerated believers and not part of a calvinist Elect/non-Elect Caste System. We are Christian believers, not Caste System believers. Do you understand?

Let's look at 2 Th 2:13 without your Caste System glasses on.

(2 Th 2:13) But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brothers beloved of the Lord, because God has from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth,

It's people like those in the Audience, who already believe in the truth and are undergoing sanctification, they are the ones elected by God. Your Monergistic Caste System beliefs just crashed and burned.

Those whom God has chosen to Salvation, the Election of Grace, they in time will experience sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth, by which they ar called 2 Thess 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[synergy]

Those whom God has chosen to Salvation, the Election of Grace, they in time will experience sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth, by which they ar called 2 Thess 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Carry on with your massive failure to understand that Paul's audience in Thessalonians is already faithful regenerated believers and not part of a calvinist Elect/non-Elect Caste System.

You also fail miserably to understand that we are NOT Caste System believers. Is it possible for you understand to that?

Let's look at 2 Th 2:13 without your Caste System glasses on.

(2 Th 2:13) But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brothers beloved of the Lord, because God has from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth,

It's people like those in the Audience, who already believe in the truth and are undergoing sanctification, they are the ones elected by God. Your Monergistic Caste System beliefs just crashed and burned.

 

[TomL]

Those whom God has chosen to Salvation, the Election of Grace, they in time will experience sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth, by which they ar called 2 Thess 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

God chooses to save those who believe

1 Corinthians 1:21 (NASB 2020) — 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

faith/belief precedes salvation

 

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faith/belief precedes salvation

GOD promised that everyone who chose to out their faith in HIM as their GOD and saviour from sin would be saved from the consequences of choosing to be sinful in HIS sight if they should ever choose to be sinful (the sinful believers of John 3:18 who are not condemned) while everyone who rejected HIM as their GOD and saviour were condemned on the spot, (Jn 3:18 about those who have never believed).

Faith indeed precedes salvation and causes it which that is the content of the promise of election.

 

[brightfame52]

God chooses to save those who believe

1 Corinthians 1:21 (NASB 2020) — 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

faith/belief precedes salvation

Those whom God has chosen to Salvation, the Election of Grace, they in time will experience sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth, by which they ar called 2 Thess 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Only those whom have been set apart by the Spirit are called by the Gospel !

 

[TomL]

Those whom God has chosen to Salvation, the Election of Grace, they in time will experience sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth, by which they ar called 2 Thess 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Only those whom have been set apart by the Spirit are called by the Gospel !

Belief precedes sanctification and

God chooses to save those who believe

1 Corinthians 1:21 (NASB 2020) — 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

faith/belief precedes salvation

 

[TomL]

GOD promised that everyone who chose to out their faith in HIM as their GOD and saviour from sin would be saved from the consequences of choosing to be sinful in HIS sight if they should ever choose to be sinful (the sinful believers of John 3:18 who are not condemned) while everyone who rejected HIM as their GOD and saviour were condemned on the spot, (Jn 3:18 about those who have never believed).

Faith indeed precedes salvation and causes it which that is the content of the promise of election.

Amen

 

[brightfame52]

Belief precedes sanctification and

God chooses to save those who believe

1 Corinthians 1:21 (NASB 2020) — 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

faith/belief precedes salvation

Those whom God has chosen to Salvation, the Election of Grace, they in time will experience sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth, by which they ar called 2 Thess 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Only those whom have been set apart by the Spirit are called by the Gospel !

 

[TedT]

God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation

If from the beginning was the before the creation of people then HE chose some to be saved and some not to be saved before there were any sinful decisions made by HIS creation...ie HE chose to damn some sinners before their creation!

Where does the idea that IF from the beginning refers to our beginning, our creation, and by our decision or faith or rebellion at that time HE elected some to salvation and others to perdition due to our free will choices cause so much animosity within the theological ranks?

It certainly frees us from the necessity to impugn GOD with favoritism and a pre-creation hostility, ie, non-lovingness, to at least part of HIS creation!

 

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If from the beginning was the before the creation of people then HE chose some to be saved and some not to be saved before there were any sinful decisions made by HIS creation...ie HE chose to damn some sinners before their creation!

Where does the idea that IF from the beginning refers to our beginning, our creation, and by our decision or faith or rebellion at that time HE elected some to salvation and others to perdition due to our free will choices cause so much animosity within the theological ranks?

It certainly frees us from the necessity to impugn GOD with favoritism and a pre-creation hostility, ie, non-lovingness, to at least part of HIS creation!

Those whom God has chosen to Salvation, the Election of Grace, they in time will experience sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth, by which they ar called 2 Thess 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Only those whom have been set apart by the Spirit are called by the Gospel !

 

[TedT]

Those whom God has chosen to Salvation, the Election of Grace, they in time will experience sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth, by which they ar called 2 Thess 2:13-14

Blindly repeating yourself does no one any good...

I know all this...
but since you what you are saying is that GOD, BEFORE anyone was created did NOT chose some for salvation. This implies HE was being biased against them, not loving them at all.