Works and Salvation

[Behold]

Was John the Baptist filled the Holy Ghost before Jesus was Glorified Luke 1:13-15

That "filling" is not the same as being born again.

Look at it like this..

Peter in John 20:22, received the Holy Spirit.

So, He had it before Acts 2:38, (Pentecost)

Yet, on That Day, Peter was "filled".......

And that is to become under the influence of a mighty anointing, that is designed specifically as the "call of God".

Its an enabling, an "enduement of power"... its a specific anointing for a specific ministry.

Apostle, Prophet, Pastor, Teacher, Evangelist..

and that is what John the Baptist had "from the womb".


That is not the "new birth In Christ".

 

[brightfame52]

That "filling" is not the same as being born again.

Look at it like this..

Peter in John 20:22, received the Holy Spirit.

So, He had it before Acts 2:38, (Pentecost)

Yet, on That Day, Peter was "filled".......

And that is to become under the influence of a mighty anointing, that is designed specifically as the "call of God".

Its an enabling, an "enduement of power"... its a specific anointing for a specific ministry.

Apostle, Prophet, Pastor, Teacher, Evangelist..

and that is what John the Baptist had "from the womb".


That is not the "new birth In Christ".

Was John the Baptist filled the Holy Ghost before Jesus was Glorified Luke 1:13-15

 

[Behold]

Problem is for you, Faith is the fruit of the Spirit Duh

You mistake your obsession with Calvin, as spiritual fruit.

So your fruit is "deception".

And your ministry is to spread it.

 

[Behold]

Was John the Baptist filled the Holy Ghost before Jesus was Glorified Luke 1:13-1

That "filling" is not the same as being born again.

Look at it like this..

Peter in John 20:22, received the Holy Spirit.

So, He had it before Acts 2:38, (Pentecost)

Yet, on That Day, Peter was "filled".......

And that is to become under the influence of a mighty anointing, that is designed specifically as the "call of God".

Its an enabling, an "enduement of power"... its a specific anointing for a specific ministry.

Apostle, Prophet, Pastor, Teacher, Evangelist..

and that is what John the Baptist had "from the womb".


That is not the "new birth In Christ".

 

[Rockson]

Was John the Baptist filled the Holy Ghost before Jesus was Glorified Luke 1:13-15

So I said to you in my last post one may even have the Spirit of God in them (in a sense) but they still would not be born again. You need to read too, Matt 11:11

Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. Matt 11:11

So you brought up John the Baptist. So if John the Baptist was equated the same as those who would become children of God in his future by being born again then why did Jesus say they were greater? That means those who the least in the Kingdom were greater than the greatest Prophet of the OT. So why? I'll tell you why? Because they were going to be born again and John the Baptist, that is in the time of his earthly ministry wasn't . He is NOW after the resurrection but not during his earthly time here.

 

[brightfame52]

You mistake your obsession with Calvin, as spiritual fruit.

So your fruit is "deception".

And your ministry is to spread it.

Did Calvin write Gal 5:22

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

 

[Johann]

Problem is for you, Faith is the fruit of the Spirit Duh

No, faith is not listed as one of the fruits of the Spirit in the Bible. The fruits of the Spirit are outlined in Galatians 5:22-23, which include love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Faith, as a spiritual force and a gift from God, is distinct from the fruits of the Spirit. Faith is a foundational aspect of Christian belief and is essential for salvation and living a life in accordance with God's will.

Faith is a dorean.

 

[brightfame52]

That "filling" is not the same as being born again.

Look at it like this..

Peter in John 20:22, received the Holy Spirit.

So, He had it before Acts 2:38, (Pentecost)

Yet, on That Day, Peter was "filled".......

And that is to become under the influence of a mighty anointing, that is designed specifically as the "call of God".

Its an enabling, an "enduement of power"... its a specific anointing for a specific ministry.

Apostle, Prophet, Pastor, Teacher, Evangelist..

and that is what John the Baptist had "from the womb".


That is not the "new birth In Christ".

Was John the Baptist filled the Holy Ghost before Jesus was Glorified Luke 1:13-1

Were believers in Jesus Christ born again during His Ministry according to Jn 1:12-13

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

[brightfame52]

No, faith is not listed as one of the fruits of the Spirit in the Bible. The fruits of the Spirit are outlined in Galatians 5:22-23, which include love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Faith, as a spiritual force and a gift from God, is distinct from the fruits of the Spirit. Faith is a foundational aspect of Christian belief and is essential for salvation and living a life in accordance with God's will.

Problem is for you, Faith is the fruit of the Spirit Duh

Gal 5:22

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

 

[Johann]

Problem is for you, Faith is the fruit of the Spirit Duh

Gal 5:22

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

The third triad—faithfulness, meekness, temperance—seems to point to the world in which the Christian life is to be lived as a scene of difficulties and oppositions. The rendering of the Revised Version is to be preferred to that of the Authorised in the first of the three, for it is not faith in its theological sense to which the Apostle is here referring. Possibly, however, the meaning may be trustfulness just as in 1 Corinthians 13 it is given as a characteristic of love that it 'believeth all things.' More probably, however, the meaning is faithfulness, and Paul's thought is that the Christian life is to manifest itself in the faithful discharge of all duties and the honest handling of all things committed to it. Meekness even more distinctly contemplates a condition of things which is contrary to the Christian life, and points to a submissiveness of spirit which does not lift itself up against oppositions, but bends like a reed before the storm. Paul preached meekness and practised it, but Paul could flash into strong opposition and with a resonant ring in his voice could say 'To whom we gave place by subjection, No! not for an hour.' The last member of the triad—temperance—points to the difficulties which the spiritual life is apt to meet with in the natural passions and desires, and insists upon the fact that conflict and rigid and habitual self-control are sure to be marks of that life.
faithfulness -- G4102, N-NSM. πίστις, pistis, Thayer Definition:
1) conviction of the truth of anything, belief; in the NT of a conviction or belief respecting man’s relationship to God and divine things, generally with the included idea of trust and holy fervour born of faith and joined with it
1a) relating to God
1a1) the conviction that God exists and is the creator and ruler of all things, the provider and bestower of eternal salvation through Christ
1b) relating to Christ
1b1) a strong and welcome conviction or belief that Jesus is the Messiah, through whom we obtain eternal salvation in the kingdom of God
1c) the religious beliefs of Christians
1d) belief with the predominate idea of trust (or confidence) whether in God or in Christ, springing from faith in the same
2) fidelity, faithfulness
2a) the character of one who can be relied on

Here it seems to be definition 2a) the character of one who can be relied on.



Faith] πιστις, here used for fidelity-punctuality in performing promises, conscientious carefulness in preserving what is committed to our trust, in restoring it to its proper owner, in transacting the business confided to us, neither betraying the secret of our friend, nor disappointing the confidence of our employer.
But the (k) fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

(k) Therefore they are not the fruits of free will, but only as far forth as our will is made free by grace.
Geneva
Exhortation to - Psa 12:1; Psa 31:23; Pro 20:6; Pro 28:20; Mat 10:22; Mat 24:45-47; Mat 25:14-23; Luk 12:42-44; Luk 16:10-12; Luk 19:12-27; 1Co 4:2; Rev 2:10
Abraham - Gal 3:9
Moses - Heb 3:5
David - 2Sa 22:22-25
Elijah - 1Ki 19:10; 1Ki 19:14
Abijah - 2Ch 13:4-20
Jehoshaphat - 2Ch 20:1-30
Job - Job 1:21; Job 1:22; Job 2:9; Job 2:10

This is not found in the AV. The RV corrects the AV "faith" to "faithfulness" in Rom 3:3

Noun - H530; Exo 17:12; 1Sa 26:23; 2Ch 19:9; Deu 32:4; Psa 33:4; Psa 119:86; Psa 119:30; Pro 28:20; Rom 1:17; Gal 3:11; Hab 2:4; Isa 11:5; Psa 98:3; Jer 5:1; Hos 2:19-20; Pro 12:22; Pro 12:17; Jer 5:1; Isa 59:4; Jer 7:28; Jer 9:3; Isa 11:5; Joh 1:18
Verb - H539; Psa 106:48; Isa 38:18;

Gal 5:22 But the p'ri of the Ruach HaKodesh is ahavah (agape), simcha (joy), shalom (peace), zitzfleisch (patience), nedivut (generosity, kindness), chesed (loving-kindness), ne'emanut (faithfulness),


"BELIEVE" :
THE USE OF THE WORD
IN VARIOUS CONNECTIONS, ETC.



There are two Verbs, two Nouns, and one Adjective to be considered in connection with this subject.
I. Verbs.
1. pisteuo = to have faith ( pistis ) in; hence to believe. Translated "believe", except in eight instances, see below (iv).
i. Used absolutely : Mat_8:13; Mat_21:22; Mat_24:23; Mat_24:26. Mar_5:36; Mar_9:23-24; Mar_13:21; Mar_15:32; Mar_16:16-17. Luk_1:45; Luk_8:12-13; Luk_8:50; Luk_22:67. Joh_1:7; Joh_1:50; Joh_3:12-18; Joh_4:41-42; Joh_4:48; Joh_4:53; Joh_5:44; Joh_6:36; Joh_6:64; Joh_9:38; Joh_10:25-26; Joh_11:15; Joh_11:40; Joh_12:39; Joh_12:47; Joh_14:29; Joh_16:31; Joh_19:35; Joh_20:8; Joh_20:25; Joh_20:29-31. Act_2:44; Act_4:4; Act_4:32; Act_5:14; Act_8:13; Act_8:37; Act_11:21; Act_13:12; Act_13:39; Act_13:48; Act_14:1; Act_15:5; Act_15:7; Act_17:12; Act_17:34; Act_18:1-8; Act_18:27; Act_19:2; Act_19:18; Act_21:20; Act_21:25; Act_26:1-27. Rom_1:16; Rom_3:22; Rom_4:11; Rom_10:4; Rom_10:10; Rom_13:11; Rom_15:13. 1Co_1:21; 1Co_3:5; 1Co_14:42; 1Co_15:2; 1Co_15:11. 2Co_4:13. Gal_3:22. Eph_1:19. 1Th_1:7; 1Th_2:10; 1Th_2:13. 2Th_1:10. 1Ti_3:16. Heb_4:3. Jas_2:1-19. 1Pe_2:7. Jud_1:5.

ii. With dative of person or thing believed : Mat_21:25; Mat_21:32; Mat_27:42. Mar_11:31; Mar_16:13-14. Luk_1:20; Luk_20:5. Joh_2:22; Joh_4:21; Joh_4:50; Joh_5:24; Joh_5:38; Joh_5:46-47; Joh_6:30; Joh_8:31; Joh_8:45-46; Joh_10:37-38; Joh_12:38; Joh_14:11. Act_8:12; Act_13:41; Act_16:34; Act_18:8 -; Act_24:14; Act_26:27; Act_27:25. Rom_4:3; Rom_10:16. Gal_3:6. 2Th_2:11-12. 2Ti_1:12. Tit_3:8. Jas_2:23. 1Jn_3:23; 1Jn_4:1; 1Jn_5:10.

iii. With direct object of the fact believed, either a Noun in the Acc. Case, or a sentence : Mat_9:28. Mar_11:23-24. Joh_4:21; Joh_6:69; Joh_8:24; Joh_9:18; Joh_10:38; Joh_11:26-27; Joh_11:42; Joh_13:19; Joh_14:10-11; Joh_16:27; Joh_16:30; Joh_17:8; Joh_17:21; Joh_20:31. Act_8:37; Act_9:26; Act_15:11. Rom_6:8; Rom_10:9; Rom_14:2. 1Co_11:18; 1Co_13:7. 1Th_4:14. Heb_11:6. Jas_2:19. 1Jn_4:16; 1Jn_5:1; 1Jn_5:5.

iv. Translated "commit" : Luk_16:11. Joh_2:24. (both followed by Dative and Accusative); "committed to", or "put in trust with" (Passive) : Rom_3:2. 1Co_9:17. Gal_2:7. 1Th_2:4. 1Ti_1:11. Tit_1:3.

v. With Prepositions:
a. eis (Ap. 104. vi) : Mat_18:6. Mar_9:42. Joh_1:12; Joh_2:11; Joh_2:23; Joh_3:15-16; Joh_3:18; Joh_3:36; Joh_4:39; Joh_6:29; Joh_6:35; Joh_6:40; Joh_6:47; Joh_7:5; Joh_7:31; Joh_7:38-39; Joh_7:48; Joh_8:30; Joh_9:35-36; Joh_10:42; Joh_11:25-26; Joh_11:45; Joh_11:48; Joh_12:11; Joh_12:36-37; Joh_12:42; Joh_12:44; Joh_12:46; Joh_14:1; Joh_14:12; Joh_16:9; Joh_17:20. Act_10:43; Act_14:23; Act_19:4. Rom_10:14. Gal_2:16. Php_1:29. 1Pe_1:8; 1Pe_1:21. 1Jn_5:10; 1Jn_5:13.

b. en (Ap. 104. viii) : Mar_1:15. Eph_1:13.
c. epi (Ap. 104. ix) :
1. With Dative : Luk_24:25. Rom_4:18; Rom_9:33; Rom_10:11. 1Ti_1:16. 1Pe_2:6.
2. With Acc. : Act_9:42; Act_11:17; Act_16:31; Act_22:19. Rom_4:5; Rom_4:24.

d. In two instances, through the object being a Relative Pronoun, and attracted to the case of its antecedent, the Verb is followed by a Genitive : Rom_4:17; Rom_10:14.

There are only 248 occurrences of the Verb pisteuo (of which 99 are found in John’s Gospel), but in two cases besides those noted in iv, it is followed by a direct object of the thing believed, as well as a Dative of the person. These are Joh_4:21; Joh_14:11 -, and are therefore noted under both ii and iii.

2. peitho , which is found 55 times, means to "persuade", and is so translated in Mat_27:20; Mat_28:14. Luk_16:31; Luk_20:6. Act_13:43; Act_14:19; Act_8:4; Act_19:8; Act_19:26; Act_21:14; Act_26:26; Act_26:28; Act_28:23. Rom_8:38; Rom_14:14; Rom_15:14. 2Co_5:11. Gal_1:10. 2Ti_1:5; 2Ti_1:12. Heb_6:9; Heb_11:13.

The Passive, "to be persuaded" or the Middle, "to persuade oneself", is translated "believe" in Act_17:4; Act_27:11; Act_28:24.
"Obey" in Act_5:36-37. Rom_2:8. Gal_3:1; Gal_5:7. Heb_13:17. Jas_3:3; "agreed" in Act_5:40; and "yield" in Act_23:21.
In Act_12:20, the active is rendered "made ... friend", and in 1Jn_3:19 "assure".

peitho has a Middle Perfect, pepoitha , with a reflective sense, "I have persuaded myself" : i.e. "I trust". This is rendered "trust", "have confidence", &c., in Mat_27:34. Mar_10:24. Luk_11:22; Luk_18:9. Rom_2:19. 2Co_1:9; 2Co_2:3; 2Co_10:7. Gal_5:10. Php_1:6; Php_1:14; Php_1:25; Php_2:24; Php_3:3-4. 2Th_3:4. Phm_1:21. Heb_2:13; Heb_13:18.
II.

III. Nouns.

1. pistis (*1) = faith. The living, Divinely implanted principle. It connects itself with the second Aorist of peitho (I. 2, above), Gr. epithon , occurs 242 times, and is always translated "faith", except in Act_17:31, "assurance"; Tit_2:10, "fidelity"; and Rom_3:26, and Heb_10:39, where "of faith" is rendered "him which believeth", and "them that believe".

2. pepoithesis = confidence. It is derived from the Middle Perfect of peitho (I. 2, above), which is always to be distinguished from the Passive Perfect ( pepeismai ). The latter refers to persuasion wrought from without ; the former refers to a persuasion realized from within , and this is what pepoithesis seems to always mean. Pistis (No. 1) refers rather to the principle , and pepoithesis refers more to the feeling . It occurs 6 times, and is rendered "confidence" in 2Co_1:15; 2Co_8:22; 2Co_10:2. Eph_3:12. Php_3:4; and "trust" in 2Co_3:4.
IV. Adjective.

pistos occurs 67 times, and is rendered "faithful" 54 times. It is necessary to give the references, as it is the only word so translated. It is translated "sure" in Act_13:34, "true" in 2Co_1:18. 1Ti_3:1; 1Ti_3:10 times "believer", "he that believeth", &c. : viz. Joh_20:27. Act_10:45; Act_16:1. 2Co_6:15. 1Ti_4:3; 1Ti_4:10; 1Ti_4:12; 1Ti_5:16; 1Ti_6:2.


(*1) The English word "faith" is always the translation of pistis , except in Heb_10:23, where the Greek word is elpis , everywhere else rendered "hope".

faith = fidelity


Tit 2:9 Bondservants are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative,
Tit 2:10 not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior.

Careful on the "Duh" trigger @brightfame52

 

[brightfame52]

The third triad—faithfulness, meekness, temperance—seems to point to the world in which the Christian life is to be lived as a scene of difficulties and oppositions. The rendering of the Revised Version is to be preferred to that of the Authorised in the first of the three, for it is not faith in its theological sense to which the Apostle is here referring. Possibly, however, the meaning may be trustfulness just as in 1 Corinthians 13 it is given as a characteristic of love that it 'believeth all things.' More probably, however, the meaning is faithfulness, and Paul's thought is that the Christian life is to manifest itself in the faithful discharge of all duties and the honest handling of all things committed to it. Meekness even more distinctly contemplates a condition of things which is contrary to the Christian life, and points to a submissiveness of spirit which does not lift itself up against oppositions, but bends like a reed before the storm. Paul preached meekness and practised it, but Paul could flash into strong opposition and with a resonant ring in his voice could say 'To whom we gave place by subjection, No! not for an hour.' The last member of the triad—temperance—points to the difficulties which the spiritual life is apt to meet with in the natural passions and desires, and insists upon the fact that conflict and rigid and habitual self-control are sure to be marks of that life.
faithfulness -- G4102, N-NSM. πίστις, pistis, Thayer Definition:
1) conviction of the truth of anything, belief; in the NT of a conviction or belief respecting man’s relationship to God and divine things, generally with the included idea of trust and holy fervour born of faith and joined with it
1a) relating to God
1a1) the conviction that God exists and is the creator and ruler of all things, the provider and bestower of eternal salvation through Christ
1b) relating to Christ
1b1) a strong and welcome conviction or belief that Jesus is the Messiah, through whom we obtain eternal salvation in the kingdom of God
1c) the religious beliefs of Christians
1d) belief with the predominate idea of trust (or confidence) whether in God or in Christ, springing from faith in the same
2) fidelity, faithfulness
2a) the character of one who can be relied on

Here it seems to be definition 2a) the character of one who can be relied on.



Faith] πιστις, here used for fidelity-punctuality in performing promises, conscientious carefulness in preserving what is committed to our trust, in restoring it to its proper owner, in transacting the business confided to us, neither betraying the secret of our friend, nor disappointing the confidence of our employer.
But the (k) fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

(k) Therefore they are not the fruits of free will, but only as far forth as our will is made free by grace.
Geneva
Exhortation to - Psa 12:1; Psa 31:23; Pro 20:6; Pro 28:20; Mat 10:22; Mat 24:45-47; Mat 25:14-23; Luk 12:42-44; Luk 16:10-12; Luk 19:12-27; 1Co 4:2; Rev 2:10
Abraham - Gal 3:9
Moses - Heb 3:5
David - 2Sa 22:22-25
Elijah - 1Ki 19:10; 1Ki 19:14
Abijah - 2Ch 13:4-20
Jehoshaphat - 2Ch 20:1-30
Job - Job 1:21; Job 1:22; Job 2:9; Job 2:10

This is not found in the AV. The RV corrects the AV "faith" to "faithfulness" in Rom 3:3

Noun - H530; Exo 17:12; 1Sa 26:23; 2Ch 19:9; Deu 32:4; Psa 33:4; Psa 119:86; Psa 119:30; Pro 28:20; Rom 1:17; Gal 3:11; Hab 2:4; Isa 11:5; Psa 98:3; Jer 5:1; Hos 2:19-20; Pro 12:22; Pro 12:17; Jer 5:1; Isa 59:4; Jer 7:28; Jer 9:3; Isa 11:5; Joh 1:18
Verb - H539; Psa 106:48; Isa 38:18;

Gal 5:22 But the p'ri of the Ruach HaKodesh is ahavah (agape), simcha (joy), shalom (peace), zitzfleisch (patience), nedivut (generosity, kindness), chesed (loving-kindness), ne'emanut (faithfulness),


"BELIEVE" :
THE USE OF THE WORD
IN VARIOUS CONNECTIONS, ETC.



There are two Verbs, two Nouns, and one Adjective to be considered in connection with this subject.
I. Verbs.
1. pisteuo = to have faith ( pistis ) in; hence to believe. Translated "believe", except in eight instances, see below (iv).
i. Used absolutely : Mat_8:13; Mat_21:22; Mat_24:23; Mat_24:26. Mar_5:36; Mar_9:23-24; Mar_13:21; Mar_15:32; Mar_16:16-17. Luk_1:45; Luk_8:12-13; Luk_8:50; Luk_22:67. Joh_1:7; Joh_1:50; Joh_3:12-18; Joh_4:41-42; Joh_4:48; Joh_4:53; Joh_5:44; Joh_6:36; Joh_6:64; Joh_9:38; Joh_10:25-26; Joh_11:15; Joh_11:40; Joh_12:39; Joh_12:47; Joh_14:29; Joh_16:31; Joh_19:35; Joh_20:8; Joh_20:25; Joh_20:29-31. Act_2:44; Act_4:4; Act_4:32; Act_5:14; Act_8:13; Act_8:37; Act_11:21; Act_13:12; Act_13:39; Act_13:48; Act_14:1; Act_15:5; Act_15:7; Act_17:12; Act_17:34; Act_18:1-8; Act_18:27; Act_19:2; Act_19:18; Act_21:20; Act_21:25; Act_26:1-27. Rom_1:16; Rom_3:22; Rom_4:11; Rom_10:4; Rom_10:10; Rom_13:11; Rom_15:13. 1Co_1:21; 1Co_3:5; 1Co_14:42; 1Co_15:2; 1Co_15:11. 2Co_4:13. Gal_3:22. Eph_1:19. 1Th_1:7; 1Th_2:10; 1Th_2:13. 2Th_1:10. 1Ti_3:16. Heb_4:3. Jas_2:1-19. 1Pe_2:7. Jud_1:5.

ii. With dative of person or thing believed : Mat_21:25; Mat_21:32; Mat_27:42. Mar_11:31; Mar_16:13-14. Luk_1:20; Luk_20:5. Joh_2:22; Joh_4:21; Joh_4:50; Joh_5:24; Joh_5:38; Joh_5:46-47; Joh_6:30; Joh_8:31; Joh_8:45-46; Joh_10:37-38; Joh_12:38; Joh_14:11. Act_8:12; Act_13:41; Act_16:34; Act_18:8 -; Act_24:14; Act_26:27; Act_27:25. Rom_4:3; Rom_10:16. Gal_3:6. 2Th_2:11-12. 2Ti_1:12. Tit_3:8. Jas_2:23. 1Jn_3:23; 1Jn_4:1; 1Jn_5:10.

iii. With direct object of the fact believed, either a Noun in the Acc. Case, or a sentence : Mat_9:28. Mar_11:23-24. Joh_4:21; Joh_6:69; Joh_8:24; Joh_9:18; Joh_10:38; Joh_11:26-27; Joh_11:42; Joh_13:19; Joh_14:10-11; Joh_16:27; Joh_16:30; Joh_17:8; Joh_17:21; Joh_20:31. Act_8:37; Act_9:26; Act_15:11. Rom_6:8; Rom_10:9; Rom_14:2. 1Co_11:18; 1Co_13:7. 1Th_4:14. Heb_11:6. Jas_2:19. 1Jn_4:16; 1Jn_5:1; 1Jn_5:5.

iv. Translated "commit" : Luk_16:11. Joh_2:24. (both followed by Dative and Accusative); "committed to", or "put in trust with" (Passive) : Rom_3:2. 1Co_9:17. Gal_2:7. 1Th_2:4. 1Ti_1:11. Tit_1:3.

v. With Prepositions:
a. eis (Ap. 104. vi) : Mat_18:6. Mar_9:42. Joh_1:12; Joh_2:11; Joh_2:23; Joh_3:15-16; Joh_3:18; Joh_3:36; Joh_4:39; Joh_6:29; Joh_6:35; Joh_6:40; Joh_6:47; Joh_7:5; Joh_7:31; Joh_7:38-39; Joh_7:48; Joh_8:30; Joh_9:35-36; Joh_10:42; Joh_11:25-26; Joh_11:45; Joh_11:48; Joh_12:11; Joh_12:36-37; Joh_12:42; Joh_12:44; Joh_12:46; Joh_14:1; Joh_14:12; Joh_16:9; Joh_17:20. Act_10:43; Act_14:23; Act_19:4. Rom_10:14. Gal_2:16. Php_1:29. 1Pe_1:8; 1Pe_1:21. 1Jn_5:10; 1Jn_5:13.

b. en (Ap. 104. viii) : Mar_1:15. Eph_1:13.
c. epi (Ap. 104. ix) :
1. With Dative : Luk_24:25. Rom_4:18; Rom_9:33; Rom_10:11. 1Ti_1:16. 1Pe_2:6.
2. With Acc. : Act_9:42; Act_11:17; Act_16:31; Act_22:19. Rom_4:5; Rom_4:24.

d. In two instances, through the object being a Relative Pronoun, and attracted to the case of its antecedent, the Verb is followed by a Genitive : Rom_4:17; Rom_10:14.

There are only 248 occurrences of the Verb pisteuo (of which 99 are found in John’s Gospel), but in two cases besides those noted in iv, it is followed by a direct object of the thing believed, as well as a Dative of the person. These are Joh_4:21; Joh_14:11 -, and are therefore noted under both ii and iii.

2. peitho , which is found 55 times, means to "persuade", and is so translated in Mat_27:20; Mat_28:14. Luk_16:31; Luk_20:6. Act_13:43; Act_14:19; Act_8:4; Act_19:8; Act_19:26; Act_21:14; Act_26:26; Act_26:28; Act_28:23. Rom_8:38; Rom_14:14; Rom_15:14. 2Co_5:11. Gal_1:10. 2Ti_1:5; 2Ti_1:12. Heb_6:9; Heb_11:13.

The Passive, "to be persuaded" or the Middle, "to persuade oneself", is translated "believe" in Act_17:4; Act_27:11; Act_28:24.
"Obey" in Act_5:36-37. Rom_2:8. Gal_3:1; Gal_5:7. Heb_13:17. Jas_3:3; "agreed" in Act_5:40; and "yield" in Act_23:21.
In Act_12:20, the active is rendered "made ... friend", and in 1Jn_3:19 "assure".

peitho has a Middle Perfect, pepoitha , with a reflective sense, "I have persuaded myself" : i.e. "I trust". This is rendered "trust", "have confidence", &c., in Mat_27:34. Mar_10:24. Luk_11:22; Luk_18:9. Rom_2:19. 2Co_1:9; 2Co_2:3; 2Co_10:7. Gal_5:10. Php_1:6; Php_1:14; Php_1:25; Php_2:24; Php_3:3-4. 2Th_3:4. Phm_1:21. Heb_2:13; Heb_13:18.
II.

III. Nouns.

1. pistis (*1) = faith. The living, Divinely implanted principle. It connects itself with the second Aorist of peitho (I. 2, above), Gr. epithon , occurs 242 times, and is always translated "faith", except in Act_17:31, "assurance"; Tit_2:10, "fidelity"; and Rom_3:26, and Heb_10:39, where "of faith" is rendered "him which believeth", and "them that believe".

2. pepoithesis = confidence. It is derived from the Middle Perfect of peitho (I. 2, above), which is always to be distinguished from the Passive Perfect ( pepeismai ). The latter refers to persuasion wrought from without ; the former refers to a persuasion realized from within , and this is what pepoithesis seems to always mean. Pistis (No. 1) refers rather to the principle , and pepoithesis refers more to the feeling . It occurs 6 times, and is rendered "confidence" in 2Co_1:15; 2Co_8:22; 2Co_10:2. Eph_3:12. Php_3:4; and "trust" in 2Co_3:4.
IV. Adjective.

pistos occurs 67 times, and is rendered "faithful" 54 times. It is necessary to give the references, as it is the only word so translated. It is translated "sure" in Act_13:34, "true" in 2Co_1:18. 1Ti_3:1; 1Ti_3:10 times "believer", "he that believeth", &c. : viz. Joh_20:27. Act_10:45; Act_16:1. 2Co_6:15. 1Ti_4:3; 1Ti_4:10; 1Ti_4:12; 1Ti_5:16; 1Ti_6:2.


(*1) The English word "faith" is always the translation of pistis , except in Heb_10:23, where the Greek word is elpis , everywhere else rendered "hope".

faith = fidelity


Tit 2:9 Bondservants are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative,
Tit 2:10 not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior.

Careful on the "Duh" trigger @brightfame52

Problem is for you, Faith is the fruit of the Spirit Duh

Gal 5:22

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Another thing, the unregenerate are in the flesh and consequently cant please God which Faith does please God Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Confirming that Faith is the fruit of the Spirit !

 

[Johann]

Problem is for you, Faith is the fruit of the Spirit Duh

Gal 5:22

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Another thing, the unregenerate are in the flesh and consequently cant please God which Faith does please God Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Confirming that Faith is the fruit of the Spirit !

The problem-as I see it is that this Forum is fast becoming a public spectacle-mudslinging and ad hominems the norm. Is this your flesh speaking?

 

[brightfame52]

The problem-as I see it is that this Forum is fast becoming a public spectacle-mudslinging and ad hominems the norm. Is this your flesh speaking?

Problem is for you, Faith is the fruit of the Spirit Duh

Gal 5:22

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Another thing, the unregenerate are in the flesh and consequently cant please God which Faith does please God Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Confirming that Faith is the fruit of the Spirit !

 

[Johann]

Problem is for you, Faith is the fruit of the Spirit Duh

Gal 5:22

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Another thing, the unregenerate are in the flesh and consequently cant please God which Faith does please God Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Confirming that Faith is the fruit of the Spirit !

St. Paul, in his Epistle to the Romans, refers to those who receive “the abundance of grace” and “the gift of righteousness” (Rom.5:17) which God in love bestows upon all who trust in His Son for salvation.

The Bible declares that no man can ever stand uncondemned in the sight of God, the Judge of all, unless he receives righteousness as the gift of God’s grace.

Quoting from the Psalms, the Apostle says in Romans 3:10; “It is written, there is none righteous, no, not one“. This is why Paul pitied those who continued to go about “to establish their own righteousness” (Rom.10:3). He knew that their struggle was utterly futile, that they needed to be saved (See Verse One).

Let us thank God that the Lord Jesus Christ took the condemnation and judgment of our sins upon Himself at Calvary so that His righteousness might be imputed to us by grace through faith. Regarding Abraham’s justification before God, the Apostle says: “What saith the Scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness” (Rom.4:3).

Abraham’s justification, of course, was based on the fact that Christ was to die for sin, but Christ’s death is now past; it is an historical fact. Thus righteousness is now proclaimed through Christ and offered to all as a gift. “While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” (Rom.5:8). “God hath made Him to be sin for us…that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him” (IICor.5:21).

But we must receive this righteousness as a gift, for “to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, HIS FAITH is counted for righteousness” (Rom.4:5).
Faith is one of the most precious treasures a man can possibly possess. It is a pity that so few understand what the Bible teaches about it.

Faith is often confused with presumption, optimism, determination, superstition and imagination. Actually it is simply believing. This is why we read in Rom. 4:5:

“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

Obviously, faith honors God, while doubting His Word must insult and displease Him. The Apostle John wrote:

“If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater…. He that believeth not God hath made Him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of His Son.

“And this is the record: that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in His Son” (I John 5:9-11).

Little wonder that we read in Heb. 11:6:

“Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.”

But why did God give the law, if salvation can be obtained by simple faith? St. Paul answers:

“The law was our schoolmaster, to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith” (Gal. 3:24).

“Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law”
(Rom. 3:31).

How grateful we all should be that God, in the Bible, has told us about redemption through Christ and how we may be saved by faith in Him!

“[Christ] was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. Therefore, being justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Rom. 4:25; 5:1).

Faith

Faith is one of the most precious treasures a man can possibly possess. It is a pity that so few understand what the Bible teaches about it. Faith is often confused with presumption, optimism, determination, superstition and imagination. Actually it is simply believing. This is why we read in Rom

bereanbiblesociety.org

 

[brightfame52]

St. Paul, in his Epistle to the Romans, refers to those who receive “the abundance of grace” and “the gift of righteousness” (Rom.5:17) which God in love bestows upon all who trust in His Son for salvation.

The Bible declares that no man can ever stand uncondemned in the sight of God, the Judge of all, unless he receives righteousness as the gift of God’s grace.

Quoting from the Psalms, the Apostle says in Romans 3:10; “It is written, there is none righteous, no, not one“. This is why Paul pitied those who continued to go about “to establish their own righteousness” (Rom.10:3). He knew that their struggle was utterly futile, that they needed to be saved (See Verse One).

Let us thank God that the Lord Jesus Christ took the condemnation and judgment of our sins upon Himself at Calvary so that His righteousness might be imputed to us by grace through faith. Regarding Abraham’s justification before God, the Apostle says: “What saith the Scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness” (Rom.4:3).

Abraham’s justification, of course, was based on the fact that Christ was to die for sin, but Christ’s death is now past; it is an historical fact. Thus righteousness is now proclaimed through Christ and offered to all as a gift. “While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” (Rom.5:8). “God hath made Him to be sin for us…that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him” (IICor.5:21).

But we must receive this righteousness as a gift, for “to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, HIS FAITH is counted for righteousness” (Rom.4:5).
Faith is one of the most precious treasures a man can possibly possess. It is a pity that so few understand what the Bible teaches about it.

Faith is often confused with presumption, optimism, determination, superstition and imagination. Actually it is simply believing. This is why we read in Rom. 4:5:

“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

Obviously, faith honors God, while doubting His Word must insult and displease Him. The Apostle John wrote:

“If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater…. He that believeth not God hath made Him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of His Son.

“And this is the record: that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in His Son” (I John 5:9-11).

Little wonder that we read in Heb. 11:6:

“Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.”

But why did God give the law, if salvation can be obtained by simple faith? St. Paul answers:

“The law was our schoolmaster, to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith” (Gal. 3:24).

“Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law”
(Rom. 3:31).

How grateful we all should be that God, in the Bible, has told us about redemption through Christ and how we may be saved by faith in Him!

“[Christ] was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. Therefore, being justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Rom. 4:25; 5:1).

Faith

Faith is one of the most precious treasures a man can possibly possess. It is a pity that so few understand what the Bible teaches about it. Faith is often confused with presumption, optimism, determination, superstition and imagination. Actually it is simply believing. This is why we read in Rom

bereanbiblesociety.org

Problem is for you, Faith is the fruit of the Spirit Duh

Gal 5:22

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Another thing, the unregenerate are in the flesh and consequently cant please God which Faith does please God Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Confirming that Faith is the fruit of the Spirit !

 

[TomL]

Was John the Baptist filled the Holy Ghost before Jesus was Glorified Luke 1:13-15

13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

And Johns Father 1:67

And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

Also the people who received/believed on Christs name during His Ministry here were said to be born of God, which is regeneration John 1:12-13

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

This was before He was Glorified !

Did you fail to understand?

Not in the New Testament sense

So you believe Christ erred or he lied?

John 7:38–39 (KJV 1900) — 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

 

[brightfame52]

Did you fail to understand?

Not in the New Testament sense

So you believe Christ erred or he lied?

John 7:38–39 (KJV 1900) — 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Was John the Baptist filled the Holy Ghost before Jesus was Glorified Luke 1:13-15

13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

And Johns Father 1:67

And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

Also the people who received/believed on Christs name during His Ministry here were said to be born of God, which is regeneration John 1:12-13

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

This was before He was Glorified !

 

[TomL]

Was John the Baptist filled the Holy Ghost before Jesus was Glorified Luke 1:13-15

13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

And Johns Father 1:67

And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

Also the people who received/believed on Christs name during His Ministry here were said to be born of God, which is regeneration John 1:12-13

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

This was before He was Glorified !

Did you fail to understand?

Not in the New Testament sense

So you believe Christ erred or he lied?

John 7:38–39 (KJV 1900) — 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

 

[brightfame52]

Did you fail to understand?

Not in the New Testament sense

So you believe Christ erred or he lied?

John 7:38–39 (KJV 1900) — 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Was John the Baptist filled the Holy Ghost before Jesus was Glorified Luke 1:13-15

13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

And Johns Father 1:67

And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

Also the people who received/believed on Christs name during His Ministry here were said to be born of God, which is regeneration John 1:12-13

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

This was before He was Glorified !

 

[TomL]

Was John the Baptist filled the Holy Ghost before Jesus was Glorified Luke 1:13-15

13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

And Johns Father 1:67

And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

Also the people who received/believed on Christs name during His Ministry here were said to be born of God, which is regeneration John 1:12-13

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

This was before He was Glorified !

Did you fail to understand?

Not in the New Testament sense

So you believe Christ erred or he lied?

John 7:38–39 (KJV 1900) — 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Are you admitting faith precedes regeneration even the right to receive it by quoting John 1:12

PS there is no mention of when regenerated.