The Trinity and all of its supporting doctrines are all circular in reasoning

[FreeInChrist]

Yes, I know the verses very well but it still doesn't make my husband and I ONE human being! Yes, one in purpose and united in marriage but still two individual human beings, a male and a female.

He is my head - his head is Christ - Christ head is God - Which 'who' or 'what' is this 'God' who is the head of Christ? I didn't see this answered.

Similar to the Godhead? If I am one in purpose with my husband yet we are still two individual human beings then wouldn't that also be applicable to the Godhead? We would have God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit one in purpose yet three individual, separate and distinct, beings which seems to me to equal 3 gods.

Yeah, ehad (pronounced ekh-awd) means 1) the ONE (number); 2) each, every; 3) a certain; 4) an (indefinite article); 5) only, once, once for all; 6) one . . another, the one....the other, one after another, one by one; 7) first; 8) eleven (in combination, eleventh (ordinal) Although this is not mentioned in the cefinition for ehad I knew it would need to be addressed ------ It can mean one COLLECTIVELY as in one herd, one cluster of grapes, one body [heis - numeral one; one body(of Christ with many members).

I simply cannot explain it to you.

You have to believe to understand.

3 times in scriptures they mentioned the single flesh which does not discount your husband as being your head at all, any more then YHWH our Holy Father being the head over Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit. But I see the divinity there. I just simply can not explain it .... it is a matter of my faith.

How can I explain this better.

You and your husband each have certain rolls in your marriage. But you were bound together under God. Your flesh is not the same but God sees you as one. It is a spiritual oneness . To say you are one flesh with your husband rather refers to a deep, spiritual bond between you that emphasizes unity and emotional connection and intimacy that God intends for married couples far beyond physical ties.

And this is exactly how I see the Trinity.... in a bond so intricately woven that will never part.

If you do not want to believe in the Trinity, fine.

 

[amazing grace]

I simply cannot explain it to you.

You have to believe to understand.

What do I have to believe to understand? If you can't understand you own faith then how do you expect anyone to understand?

3 times in scriptures they mentioned the single flesh which does not discount your husband as being your head at all, any more then YHWH our Holy Father being the head over Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit. But I see the divinity there. I just simply can not explain it .... it is a matter of my faith.

How can I explain this better.

I understand the verses regarding a husband and wife becoming one flesh, working together in purpose and being united in that purpose yet they remain two human beings. I understand that God set up a hierarchy so to speak; the man is the head of the wife, Christ is the head of man and God is the head of Christ ------ I said nothing about discounting anything --- I simply asked a question you could not answer. It's really easy - the head of Christ, the Messiah is Yahweh, aka God.

You and your husband each have certain rolls in your marriage. But you were bound together under God. Your flesh is not the same but God sees you as one. It is a spiritual oneness . To say you are one flesh with your husband rather refers to a deep, spiritual bond between you that emphasizes unity and emotional connection and intimacy that God intends for married couples far beyond physical ties.

And this is exactly how I see the Trinity.... in a bond so intricately woven that will never part.

If you do not want to believe in the Trinity, fine.

Yes, intimacy, sexual intimacy between a husband and wife is really what unites them as one flesh yet they remain two separate and distinct individual human beings.

Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For it is written, "The two shall become one flesh." But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one Spirit with him [For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body---Jews or Greeks, slave or free---and all were made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Cor. 12:13] Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

 

[FreeInChrist]

What do I have to believe to understand? If you can't understand you own faith then how do you expect anyone to understand?

The Trinity. You either do or do not. I do you do not.

I have explained it ad nauseum on here.... no more.

 

[FreeInChrist]

The Trinity. You either do or do not. I do you do not.

I have explained it ad nauseum on here.... no more.

Don't be so shocked that I cannot explain.

But this can, or should.

And should you decide not to view both or either I have posted below as the only expressions of where my faith lies.

FINALLY UNDERSTAND THE MYSTERY OF THE TRINITY | 3 PERSONS. 1 GOD​

Inner Light, Infinite Wisdom

and especially .............................................. (This one is much the same but added points and scriptures

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Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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I have other if you want them, but they mostly are the same for there is no variance in the Trinity. Just changes in commentary.

The following is me. It is who I am. It is the beliefs and faith I have. But I cannot put it into words for it is ingrained into my soul
and words fail me. I did not write these , but glad I now have them to make my expression of explanation.

This is the closest that I can express "me"
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You were created to walk with the whole of who He is.

The Trinity isn't just a doctrine it's the divine rhythm you were created to live in and once you step into that rhythm you don't just
know about God but you begin to know God Himself, personally, intimately, powerfully because He is not far.

He is in you, around you, moving through your life, moment by moment.

God is not far. He is the Father that formed you,~ the Son who saved you,~ and the Spirit who walks with you..... right now.

He is not divided.

He is not confused.

He is one and He is with you.

The mystery of the Trinity was never meant to confuse you. It was meant to invite you to help you see that the goal of the bible is not a distant force, but a divine relationship overflowing with love, grace and power..... reaching for you.

This is not theology. It is your lifeline because when you walk in step with the Trinity....

YOU ARE NOT JUST BELIEVING THE TRUTH, YOU ARE LIVING IT

 

[amazing grace]

Don't be so shocked that I cannot explain.

But this can, or should.

And should you decide not to view both or either I have posted below as the only expressions of where my faith lies.

FINALLY UNDERSTAND THE MYSTERY OF THE TRINITY | 3 PERSONS. 1 GOD​

Inner Light, Infinite Wisdom

and especially .............................................. (This one is much the same but added points and scriptures

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

I have other if you want them, but they mostly are the same for there is no variance in the Trinity. Just changes in commentary.

The following is me. It is who I am. It is the beliefs and faith I have. But I cannot put it into words for it is ingrained into my soul
and words fail me. I did not write these , but glad I now have them to make my expression of explanation.

This is the closest that I can express "me"
____________________________
You were created to walk with the whole of who He is.

The Trinity isn't just a doctrine it's the divine rhythm you were created to live in and once you step into that rhythm you don't just
know about God but you begin to know God Himself, personally, intimately, powerfully because He is not far.

He is in you, around you, moving through your life, moment by moment.

God is not far. He is the Father that formed you,~ the Son who saved you,~ and the Spirit who walks with you..... right now.

He is not divided.

He is not confused.

He is one and He is with you.

The mystery of the Trinity was never meant to confuse you. It was meant to invite you to help you see that the goal of the bible is not a distant force, but a divine relationship overflowing with love, grace and power..... reaching for you.

This is not theology. It is your lifeline because when you walk in step with the Trinity....

YOU ARE NOT JUST BELIEVING THE TRUTH, YOU ARE LIVING IT

No matter how much I disagree with the Trinitarian Doctrine . . . . I do thank you for taking the time to share your heart with me.