The Issue of Limited Atonement

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The Elect is Jesus, meaning it is the work of Jesus for the salvation of people that God has elected, and anyone can believe and be saved.

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the

 

[Duane]

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the

Anyone can believe and be saved.

 

[Obadiah]

The context of a verse or word will many times provide the information we need to determine the meaning of the verse or word.

The context of the word elect in Matthew 22:14 originates in Matthew 22:1-13.

So let’s take a look at the context.

Jesus is teaching about the kingdom of heaven in the parable of the wedding banquet.

The kingdom of heaven was a popular topic among the Jewish people.

The kingdom was prophesied about in the Jewish scriptures (Isaiah 9:6-7) and was synonymous with eternal life (read Jesus’ conversation with the rich young ruler in Luke 18:18-30 and with Nicodemus in John 3).

The Jewish people understood righteousness was required to live eternally in the kingdom.

In this parable, Jesus reveals the righteous ones chosen or elected to live in the kingdom.

The kingdom (eternal life) and the wedding banquet are synonymous in this parable.

The parable is about a king who sent out invitations two times to two groups of people.

The first invitations sent out were to a preselected group of people the king chose (elected) to invite to his son’s wedding banquet.

Those receiving these invitations either ignored the invitations or rejected them.

Some of those who rejected the invitations had the servants of the king murdered.

Following the killing of the servants, the king then sent other servants to invite everyone.

These were non-preselected people who his servants invited, meaning the king did not preselect who would receive these invitations.

It was a public invitation to anybody and everybody.

So the first invitations were sent to a preselected group who ignored or rejected the invitations.

The second invitations were sent to a non-preselected group.

A few in the non-preselected group accepted the invitation and, because they accepted the invitation, were chosen (elected) to enter the wedding hall to celebrate the wedding banquet of the king’s son.

Their being chosen or elected to enter was not based upon preselection, because the preselected group either ignored or rejected the invitation.

Rather, those chosen or elected to enter were from the non-preselected group who responded to the invitation sent out to all people.

Brad Robertson

 

[civic]

The context of a verse or word will many times provide the information we need to determine the meaning of the verse or word.

The context of the word elect in Matthew 22:14 originates in Matthew 22:1-13.

So let’s take a look at the context.

Jesus is teaching about the kingdom of heaven in the parable of the wedding banquet.

The kingdom of heaven was a popular topic among the Jewish people.

The kingdom was prophesied about in the Jewish scriptures (Isaiah 9:6-7) and was synonymous with eternal life (read Jesus’ conversation with the rich young ruler in Luke 18:18-30 and with Nicodemus in John 3).

The Jewish people understood righteousness was required to live eternally in the kingdom.

In this parable, Jesus reveals the righteous ones chosen or elected to live in the kingdom.

The kingdom (eternal life) and the wedding banquet are synonymous in this parable.

The parable is about a king who sent out invitations two times to two groups of people.

The first invitations sent out were to a preselected group of people the king chose (elected) to invite to his son’s wedding banquet.

Those receiving these invitations either ignored the invitations or rejected them.

Some of those who rejected the invitations had the servants of the king murdered.

Following the killing of the servants, the king then sent other servants to invite everyone.

These were non-preselected people who his servants invited, meaning the king did not preselect who would receive these invitations.

It was a public invitation to anybody and everybody.

So the first invitations were sent to a preselected group who ignored or rejected the invitations.

The second invitations were sent to a non-preselected group.

A few in the non-preselected group accepted the invitation and, because they accepted the invitation, were chosen (elected) to enter the wedding hall to celebrate the wedding banquet of the king’s son.

Their being chosen or elected to enter was not based upon preselection, because the preselected group either ignored or rejected the invitation.

Rather, those chosen or elected to enter were from the non-preselected group who responded to the invitation sent out to all people.

Brad Robertson

Nice

 

[Duane]

The context of a verse or word will many times provide the information we need to determine the meaning of the verse or word.

The context of the word elect in Matthew 22:14 originates in Matthew 22:1-13.

So let’s take a look at the context.

Jesus is teaching about the kingdom of heaven in the parable of the wedding banquet.

The kingdom of heaven was a popular topic among the Jewish people.

The kingdom was prophesied about in the Jewish scriptures (Isaiah 9:6-7) and was synonymous with eternal life (read Jesus’ conversation with the rich young ruler in Luke 18:18-30 and with Nicodemus in John 3).

The Jewish people understood righteousness was required to live eternally in the kingdom.

In this parable, Jesus reveals the righteous ones chosen or elected to live in the kingdom.

The kingdom (eternal life) and the wedding banquet are synonymous in this parable.

The parable is about a king who sent out invitations two times to two groups of people.

The first invitations sent out were to a preselected group of people the king chose (elected) to invite to his son’s wedding banquet.

Those receiving these invitations either ignored the invitations or rejected them.

Some of those who rejected the invitations had the servants of the king murdered.

Following the killing of the servants, the king then sent other servants to invite everyone.

These were non-preselected people who his servants invited, meaning the king did not preselect who would receive these invitations.

It was a public invitation to anybody and everybody.

So the first invitations were sent to a preselected group who ignored or rejected the invitations.

The second invitations were sent to a non-preselected group.

A few in the non-preselected group accepted the invitation and, because they accepted the invitation, were chosen (elected) to enter the wedding hall to celebrate the wedding banquet of the king’s son.

Their being chosen or elected to enter was not based upon preselection, because the preselected group either ignored or rejected the invitation.

Rather, those chosen or elected to enter were from the non-preselected group who responded to the invitation sent out to all people.

Brad Robertson

Who Are The Chosen In Matthew 22:14? (The Parable of the Wedding Banquet) — Gracereach

The kingdom of God was the dominate teaching of Jesus during his earthly ministry. The kingdom of God was prophesied in the Jewish Scriptures (Isaiah 9:6-7; see also Luke 1:29-33). It was the coming kingdom of God the Messiah/Christ would establish and rule in righteousness. It would be a kingdom

www.gracereach.org

 

[brightfame52]

Anyone can believe and be saved.

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the

 

[Duane]

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the

Anyone can believe and be saved.
Limited Atonement is a man made theology. Most Christians reject this doctrine and believe that the atonement is available to all who will believe in Christ. It was never endorsed by Calvin or the Synod of Dort.

 

[brightfame52]

Anyone can believe and be saved.
Limited Atonement is a man made theology. Most Christians reject this doctrine and believe that the atonement is available to all who will believe in Christ. It was never endorsed by Calvin or the Synod of Dort.

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the

 

[civic]

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the

Wrong it’s unlimited atonement you have it bass ackwards. You have spiritual dyslexia

 

[brightfame52]

Wrong it’s unlimited atonement you have it bass ackwards. You have spiritual dyslexia

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the elect !

 

[Fellow Traveler]

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the elect !

Limited Atonement Is Hermeneutically Insupportable

Arguing against limited atonement are verses which appear to teach universal atonement, the absence of verses that explicitly limit Christ’s atonement, verses that declare the necessity of faith for salvation, and several Old Testament types of Christ that do not fit the limited atonement paradigm.

Passages Supporting Universal Atonement

Universal (or unlimited) atonement is supported throughout the New Testament. John 3:16–17 says that “God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son. . . . God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.” The Greek word kosmos, translated “the world,” covers the inhabitants of the entire earth. Other verses supporting unlimited atonement include John 1:29, where Jesus is said to take away “the sin of the world”; Romans 11:32, in which God has mercy on “all” the disobedient; and 1 John 2:2, which says Jesus is “the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.”

None of these verses contain any kind of limitation, stated or implied, on Christ’s sacrifice. As if saying that Jesus is the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the world was not sufficient, the apostle John specifically included the Greek word holou, which means “whole, entire, all, complete.” Unless limited atonement is presumed, there is no solid basis for limiting the extent of the atonement mentioned in 1 John 2:2.

Got?

 

[brightfame52]

Limited Atonement Is Hermeneutically Insupportable

Arguing against limited atonement are verses which appear to teach universal atonement, the absence of verses that explicitly limit Christ’s atonement, verses that declare the necessity of faith for salvation, and several Old Testament types of Christ that do not fit the limited atonement paradigm.

Passages Supporting Universal Atonement

Universal (or unlimited) atonement is supported throughout the New Testament. John 3:16–17 says that “God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son. . . . God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.” The Greek word kosmos, translated “the world,” covers the inhabitants of the entire earth. Other verses supporting unlimited atonement include John 1:29, where Jesus is said to take away “the sin of the world”; Romans 11:32, in which God has mercy on “all” the disobedient; and 1 John 2:2, which says Jesus is “the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.”

None of these verses contain any kind of limitation, stated or implied, on Christ’s sacrifice. As if saying that Jesus is the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the world was not sufficient, the apostle John specifically included the Greek word holou, which means “whole, entire, all, complete.” Unless limited atonement is presumed, there is no solid basis for limiting the extent of the atonement mentioned in 1 John 2:2.

Got?

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the elect !

 

[Duane]

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the elect !

Anyone can believe and be saved.
Limited Atonement is a man made theology. Most Christians reject this doctrine and believe that the atonement is available to all who will believe in Christ. It was never endorsed by Calvin or the Synod of Dort.

 

[brightfame52]

Anyone can believe and be saved.
Limited Atonement is a man made theology. Most Christians reject this doctrine and believe that the atonement is available to all who will believe in Christ. It was never endorsed by Calvin or the Synod of Dort.

False teaching:
Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the elect !

 

[Fellow Traveler]

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the elect !

Oh here is a good one that was taught by Jesus.

Another type of Christ in the Old Testament is the bronze serpent on the pole (Numbers 21:5–9). Jesus related this object to Himself in John 3:14, explaining that He must be “lifted up” from the earth. During the plague of the “fiery serpents” in Moses’ day, every person who looked to the bronze serpent—believing that God would heal—was made whole. The healing power was universal in that it was available to every one of the Israelites, dependent only upon their willingness to obey. Jesus compared that incident to His own death on the cross and the spiritual healing He provides. Got?

 

[Fellow Traveler]

False teaching:
Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the elect !

You are right, that is false teaching. Funny how the truth comes out.

 

[brightfame52]

Oh here is a good one that was taught by Jesus.

Another type of Christ in the Old Testament is the bronze serpent on the pole (Numbers 21:5–9). Jesus related this object to Himself in John 3:14, explaining that He must be “lifted up” from the earth. During the plague of the “fiery serpents” in Moses’ day, every person who looked to the bronze serpent—believing that God would heal—was made whole. The healing power was universal in that it was available to every one of the Israelites, dependent only upon their willingness to obey. Jesus compared that incident to His own death on the cross and the spiritual healing He provides. Got?

Paul is preaching Limited atonement, exactly who Salvation in Christ is for, the Elect 2 Tim 210

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Its only One Salvation in Christ Jesus, and its limited to the elect !

 

[Fellow Traveler]

False teaching:
Paul is preaching Limited atonement

Your right

 

[brightfame52]

The Scriptures go out of their way to particularize who it is for whom Christ died.

• He died for His people (Matthew 1:21).

• He died for His friends (John 15:13).

• He died for His sheep (John 10:11).

• He died for His body ‑ the church (Ephesians 5:23‑26).

• He died for the Elect (Romans 8:32‑34).

• He died for Us (Titus 2:14).

How does this particularization take place? Jesus used the image of a shepherd and His sheep to deal with this question.

I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. (John 10:11).


Many people today seem to think that the reason people are or are not sheep is based upon whether they will believe or not believe. They would say, “You are my sheep because you believe,” or, “You are not my sheep because you do not believe.” But Jesus said it differently. He said...

“But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep.” (John 10:26).

Jesus made the basis of whether or not they believe dependent upon whether or not they had been chosen by God to be His sheep. This is just the opposite of the Arminian teaching.

THE ATONEMENT

 

[civic]

Anyone can believe and be saved.
Limited Atonement is a man made theology. Most Christians reject this doctrine and believe that the atonement is available to all who will believe in Christ. It was never endorsed by Calvin or the Synod of Dort.

Yes it’s for all people , everyone.