The Issue of Limited Atonement

False, God limited the Cross to only some, and it effectually saved them it was limited to, Gods elect.
Incorrect-

Isaiah 42:1
"Behold My Servant, whom I uphold, My Elect One, in whom My soul delights! I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles."

Matthew 12:18
"Behold! My Servant whom I have chosen, My Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will declare justice to the Gentiles."

1 Peter 2:6
"Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, 'Behold, I lay in Zion a chief cornerstone, elect, precious, and he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.'"

Luke 23:35
"And the people stood looking on. But even the rulers with them sneered, saying, 'He saved others; let Him save Himself if He is the Christ, the chosen of God.'"

Ephesians 1:4
"Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love."

John 3:16: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."

Romans 10:9: "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."

Romans 10:13: "For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."

Acts 4:12: "And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."

1 Timothy 2:3-4: "This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."

2 Peter 3:9: "The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance."

Salvation is a gift offered freely to all who believe in Jesus Christ. It is through faith in Him that we can receive eternal life and reconciliation with God.

"Whosoever" is potentially elect IN Messiah friend.

J.
 
Thats scripture

The Scripture does not teach that God teaches Calvinism.

See, when you falsely teach that "God limited the Cross".. you are deceiving..
As that is a theology that is Calvinism..
See, God didnt write "TULIP">.
You should ask him about that...
 
The Scripture does not teach that God teaches Calvinism.

See, when you falsely teach that "God limited the Cross".. you are deceiving..
As that is a theology that is Calvinism..
See, God didnt write "TULIP">.
You should ask him about that...
Tulip Truths are the Gospel of Gods Grace which you reject
 
The Calvinist teach a false gospel that should be rejected. Their view is called monergism—from two Greek words that mean “one” and “energy” or “action.” Monergism is the belief that salvation is all God’s doing from beginning to end without any cooperation from the person being saved other than what God instills in that person.

As for the poor logic found in Calvinism, we see the argument that because people are totally depraved and dead in trespasses and sins, unless God elects him or her, the person will never respond to the internal calling of the Holy Spirit. So, the Holy Spirit has to change the person inwardly in an effectual manner, which is regeneration. Then the born again person desires to come to Christ, in which case he or she is given repentance and faith (conversion) and justification (forgiveness and imputation of Christ’s righteousness).

This process is called “monergistic grace” or just “monergism.”
 
“This is good, and it pleases God our Savior, who wants everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and humanity, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, a testimony at the proper time.” 1 Tim 2:3
What about John 15:16, does it prove Calvinism?

“You did not choose me, but I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce fruit and that your fruit should remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will give you.” John 15:16

Nope, that’s not about you, that one is about the 11 disciples left over after Judas who was among those chosen!

We could say, in application, all believers are appointed to bear abiding fruit. However, to exegetically extrapolate this passage in a doctrinal way across all of Scripture, as if Jesus chose every single believer ever in the same way He chose the Apostles, is certainly irresponsible and misguided.
 
The Calvinist teach a false gospel that should be rejected. Their view is called monergism—from two Greek words that mean “one” and “energy” or “action.” Monergism is the belief that salvation is all God’s doing from beginning to end without any cooperation from the person being saved other than what God instills in that person.

As for the poor logic found in Calvinism, we see the argument that because people are totally depraved and dead in trespasses and sins, unless God elects him or her, the person will never respond to the internal calling of the Holy Spirit. So, the Holy Spirit has to change the person inwardly in an effectual manner, which is regeneration. Then the born again person desires to come to Christ, in which case he or she is given repentance and faith (conversion) and justification (forgiveness and imputation of Christ’s righteousness).

This process is called “monergistic grace” or just “monergism.”

Yes, that is "Born again to be able to believe in Christ".

So, that is exactly backwards., as the Tulip-Heads... have the Faith at the end.. . and the Born again, as the beginning.

That is the Gospel, and then the new birth...........in reverse.

Impossible., and because its such a CRAZY Lie... it has an incredible power to deceive..

HITLER stated truthfully that the BIGGER THE LIE, the more people will believe it... or the more people you can convince because the lie is outlandish.

Such as.....>>"""an 8 yr old is capable of deciding if they need to become a Trangendered "It"., and the Parents do not need to be involved.""

See that Lie? over Half of the USA, just voted for Harris and a party that promotes that LIE.

The Devil is the Father of Lies, so, inherent in this is some type of spiritual power.... that is the power of the lie... that is THE power of deception, that is : Calvinism.
 
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Yes, that is "Born again to be able to believe in Christ".

So, that is exactly backwards., as the Tulip-Heads... have the Faith at the end.. . and the Born again, as the beginning.

That is the Gospel, and then the new birth...........in reverse.

Impossible., and because its such a CRAZY Lie... it has an incredible power to deceive..

HITLER stated truthfully that the BIGGER THE LIE, the more people will believe it... or the more people you can convince because the lie is outlandish.

Such as.....>>"""an 8 yr old is capable of deciding if they need to become a Trangendered "It"., and the Parents do not need to be involved.""

See that Lie? over Half of the USA, just voted for Harris and a party that promotes that LIE.

The Devil is the Father of Lies, so, inherent in this is some type of spiritual power.... that is the power of the lie... that is THE power of deception.
You got that right. Thats way I like this payer.

The Warrior's Prayer

Dr. Jeremiah has written a prayer based on Ephesians 6

Heavenly Father, your warriors prepare for battle. Today we claim victory over Satan by putting on the whole armor of God.
We put on the Girdle of Truth! May we stand firm in the truth of Your Word so we will not be a victim of Satan's lies.

We put on the Breastplate of Righteousness! May it guard our hearts from evil so we will remain pure and holy, protected under the blood of Jesus Christ.

We put on the Shoes of Peace! May we stand firm in the Good News of the Gospel so Your peace will shine through us and be a light to all we encounter.

We take the Shield of Faith! May we be ready for Satan's fiery darts of doubt, denial, and deceit so we will not be vulnerable to spiritual defeat.

We put on the Helmet of Salvation! May we keep our minds focused on You so Satan will not have a stronghold on our thoughts.

We take the Sword of the Spirit! May the two-edged sword of Your Word be ready in our hands so we can expose the tempting words of Satan.

By faith your warriors have put on the whole armor of God! We are prepared to live this day in spiritual victory! Amen!!
 
You got that right. Thats way I like this payer.

The Warrior's Prayer

Dr. Jeremiah has written a prayer based on Ephesians 6

Heavenly Father, your warriors prepare for battle. Today we claim victory over Satan by putting on the whole armor of God.
We put on the Girdle of Truth! May we stand firm in the truth of Your Word so we will not be a victim of Satan's lies.

We put on the Breastplate of Righteousness! May it guard our hearts from evil so we will remain pure and holy, protected under the blood of Jesus Christ.

We put on the Shoes of Peace! May we stand firm in the Good News of the Gospel so Your peace will shine through us and be a light to all we encounter.

We take the Shield of Faith! May we be ready for Satan's fiery darts of doubt, denial, and deceit so we will not be vulnerable to spiritual defeat.

We put on the Helmet of Salvation! May we keep our minds focused on You so Satan will not have a stronghold on our thoughts.

We take the Sword of the Spirit! May the two-edged sword of Your Word be ready in our hands so we can expose the tempting words of Satan.

By faith your warriors have put on the whole armor of God! We are prepared to live this day in spiritual victory! Amen!!
Thats a good one. :love:
 
TULIP< is the subverting of God's Grace. TULIP>..is The Twisting of God's Grace, into a theology that is a "Doctrine of Devils".

The reason that you spend so much time on forums trying to SELL Calvinism, is because it owns you. @brightfame52
Tulip is the Gospel of Gods Grace, you reject it, you reject Gods only way of Salvation!
 
Reader,

Let me show you how CRAZY.....Calvinism is...

...= The Deceived Calvinist will be lead of the Devil to believe........>>"God saved you, so that You can be harmed by God, so that you can pray to God to be helped"...

See that?
That is Theological Insanity.

That is..>>>"God sends the devil to us, to harm us, to grow us"...

= "Theological insanity", that falsely accuses God.

See, the Calvinist.....has been deceived to believe that GOD is doing the Devil's work.

A.) Calvinism is OF The Devil
 
Tulip is the Gospel of Gods Grace, you reject it, you reject Gods only way of Salvation!
Tulip is not the gospel nor is it in scripture.

Jesus in this parable takes them all down at once, the entire TULIP. :)

Matthew 13- The Parable of the Sower


1The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side.
2 And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:
5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.
7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.


18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.


19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

T- man can choose to hear, see and receive the gospel
U- all can choose to believe and receive as demonstrated in the parable of the 4 soils
L- all soils received the seed without exception
I- 3 soils resisted all but 1 soil remained faithful and did not resist
P- 3/4 soils ( minds/hearts )did not preserver in the faith

1- Only something alive can be choked. You cannot choke the dead. And as we can see they all had life to begin with in each soil.
2- Only something alive can be scorched by the Sun and withered.
3- Only someone alive can receive the word in the heart and have it snatched away
4- Only someone alive can receive the word with Joy and endure for a while

hope this helps !!!
 
Reader,

"Calvinism" is responsible for leading people to believe that God harms you, to make you a better Christian.

"Well, God sent me this cancer to help me grow spiritually"

" God made my child sick so that they died, to teach me how to be a better Believer".

"Well, God let the Hurricane destroy my home and kill my mother to teach me how to hear from God".


See that?

That is CALVINISM deceiving people.

Why is so Satanic?
Because Calvinism has the person who is deceived by it, holding God accountable for what the DEVIL did to them, or to their family.

Calvinism, only teaches that The Devil is active, if God is causing Him to try to harm you or your Family.

CALVINISM, holds God accountable for the Devil's Work, because this theology is created by : SATAN
 
Reader,

Let me show you how CRAZY.....Calvinism is...

...= The Deceived Calvinist will be lead of the Devil to believe........>>"God saved you, so that You can be harmed by God, so that you can pray to God to be helped"...

See that?
That is Theological Insanity.

That is..>>>"God sends the devil to us, to harm us, to grow us"...

= "Theological insanity", that falsely accuses God.

See, the Calvinist.....has been deceived to believe that GOD is doing the Devil's work.

A.) Calvinism is OF The Devil
My you calling the Gospel of Gods Grace of the devil !
 
@civic



Yes it is the Gospel, unfortunately you cant see it

Revelation 22:17 (KJB) And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.​

The last invitation in the Bible is still calling for you to come. Why would Jesus write this if it were not true? If it were true that we could not come to Jesus why didn’t He say in John 5:40 and in many other places “You cannot come to me?” What stands between the sinner and salvation is the sinner’s will. God made every man a free moral individual.

I can’t believe how you waver—how easily you have turned traitor to him who called you by the grace of Christ by embracing an alternative message! It is not a minor variation, you know; it is completely other, an alien message, a no-message, a lie about God. Those who are provoking this agitation among you are turning the Message of Christ on its head. Let me be blunt: If one of us—even if an angel from heaven!—were to preach something other than what we preached originally, let him be cursed. I said it once; I’ll say it again: If anyone, regardless of reputation or credentials, preaches something other than what you received originally, let him be cursed.

Galatians 1:6-9​

 
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