The fake REV "edition".

[civic]

The spirit is an it. It does not have gender. It's a thing. A living thing. The Apostle John did not call it a Him. The translators did. There are Bibles who translate it differently and they are not saying they know more about the Scriptures than the Apostle John. They are saying the translators made it a Him.

an it cannot and does not do the following, only a person or personal being does the following:

Jesus used personal pronouns when referring to the Holy Spirit:

"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. "And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me; and concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you no longer see Me; and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged. "I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. "He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you. "(John 16:7-15).

The Holy Spirit below does things that only a person can do,

He leads (Matt. 4:1).
He is called God (Acts 5:3-4).
He helps and comforts (John 14:16, 16:7).
He convicts of sin (John 16:17).
He gives testimony of Jesus (John 15:26).
He teaches, guides and brings to remembrance (John 14:26, 16:13).
He speaks and instructs (Acts 8:29; 10:19; John 16:13).
He hears and speaks (John 16:13, Acts 28:25-27).
He can be lied to and tested (Acts 5:3-4,9).
He sends and gives life (Acts 13:4, John 3:6, Gen 1:3).
He is a witness (Acts 5:32)
He restrains (2 Thess. 2:7).
He prevents (Acts 16:6-7).
The Spirit "said" to Philip and Peter(Acts 8:29, 10:19).
Peter said he was "told" by the Spirit (Acts 11:12).
The Holy Spirit "solemnly testifies" (Acts 20:23).
He made some of the early Christians overseers to shepherd the Church. (Acts 20:28).
He wills (Acts 13:2).
He interprets our prayers (Rom. 8:26).
He knows and communicates (1 Cor. 2:11; Rom. 8:27).
He reveals (Eph. 3:5).
He has a will-He decides, chooses and distributes the Gifts to the church (1 Cor. 12:11).
He can be grieved (Eph. 4:30).

hope this helps !!!

 

[Peterlag]

an it cannot and does not do the following, only a person or personal being does the following:

Jesus used personal pronouns when referring to the Holy Spirit:

"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. "And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me; and concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you no longer see Me; and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged. "I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. "He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you. "(John 16:7-15).

The Holy Spirit below does things that only a person can do,

He leads (Matt. 4:1).
He is called God (Acts 5:3-4).
He helps and comforts (John 14:16, 16:7).
He convicts of sin (John 16:17).
He gives testimony of Jesus (John 15:26).
He teaches, guides and brings to remembrance (John 14:26, 16:13).
He speaks and instructs (Acts 8:29; 10:19; John 16:13).
He hears and speaks (John 16:13, Acts 28:25-27).
He can be lied to and tested (Acts 5:3-4,9).
He sends and gives life (Acts 13:4, John 3:6, Gen 1:3).
He is a witness (Acts 5:32)
He restrains (2 Thess. 2:7).
He prevents (Acts 16:6-7).
The Spirit "said" to Philip and Peter(Acts 8:29, 10:19).
Peter said he was "told" by the Spirit (Acts 11:12).
The Holy Spirit "solemnly testifies" (Acts 20:23).
He made some of the early Christians overseers to shepherd the Church. (Acts 20:28).
He wills (Acts 13:2).
He interprets our prayers (Rom. 8:26).
He knows and communicates (1 Cor. 2:11; Rom. 8:27).
He reveals (Eph. 3:5).
He has a will-He decides, chooses and distributes the Gifts to the church (1 Cor. 12:11).
He can be grieved (Eph. 4:30).

hope this helps !!!

Again, all those "Hims" and "Hes" are translated as "it" in other Bibles.

 

[Peterlag]

You follow his translation. This is why I started this thread about his translation.

I follow only their take on the trinity because the group is correct on that subject.

 

[Peterlag]

Here is one example of how you trash the Greek NT.

The proper translation of ουτος and αυτου in John 1:2-3 are "He" and "Him", not "It". The Uncreated Word of God is not a thing, He is a He. Do you understand?​

Therefore, the following is true about you:

1. You have no understanding of Greek.
2. You just brush aside the Greek language like it's trash.
3. You humbly boast that you are the spiritual "expert" here.
4. You place yourself above the Apostles.
5. You're willing to change the very words of Apostle John to an "it".
6. You degrade the Uncreated Word of God to an "it".
7. Should I go on?

You can spin it any way you want. I'm still correct that Jesus is not God and there's no such thing as a living word. It was very common in the culture to use figures of speech and to personalize words and I have stated this before even using an example that we find in the Old Testament when wisdom is referred to as a she. It was the way they wrote. It was not God saying my words have gender. We even do it in our culture when we refer to boats as a she. Nobody thinks boats are living creatures.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I follow only their take on the trinity because the group is correct on that subject.

Then you must accept how they built that "take"????

 

[synergy]

You can spin it any way you want. I'm still correct that Jesus is not God and there's no such thing as a living word.

The Bible confirms that Jesus is in His Father's Throne, receiving worship and prayers from all of Heaven. You and your calvinist colleagues will be the only ones with folded hands refusing to give worship and prayers to Jesus. That's terrible!

It was very common in the culture to use figures of speech and to personalize words and I have stated this before even using an example that we find in the Old Testament when wisdom is referred to as a she. It was the way they wrote. It was not God saying my words have gender. We even do it in our culture when we refer to boats as a she. Nobody thinks boats are living creatures.

Permit me to introduce you to the Word of God Person. That is verifiable by the fact that He can ride a horse, has eyes, has a head, wears a crown, wears a garment, etc...

Rev 19:11 And I saw Heaven opened. And behold, a white horse! And He sitting on him was called Faithful and True. And in righteousness He judges and makes war.
Rev 19:12 And His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head many crowns. And He had a name written, one that no one knew except Himself.
Rev 19:13 And He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies in Heaven followed Him on white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15 And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, so that with it He should strike the nations. And He will shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the wine of the anger and of the wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16 And He has on His garment, and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

 

[praise_yeshua]

You can spin it any way you want. I'm still correct that Jesus is not God and there's no such thing as a living word. It was very common in the culture to use figures of speech and to personalize words and I have stated this before even using an example that we find in the Old Testament when wisdom is referred to as a she. It was the way they wrote. It was not God saying my words have gender. We even do it in our culture when we refer to boats as a she. Nobody thinks boats are living creatures.

Then you must provide evidence that Jesus is a boat......

Must this really be stated? Do you know how evidence works?

 

[Peterlag]

The Bible confirms that Jesus is in His Father's Throne, receiving worship and prayers from all of Heaven. You and your calvinist colleagues will be the only ones with folded hands refusing to give worship and prayers to Jesus. That's terrible!

Permit me to introduce you to the Word of God Person. That is verifiable by the fact that He can ride a horse, has eyes, has a head, wears a crown, wears a garment, etc...

Rev 19:11 And I saw Heaven opened. And behold, a white horse! And He sitting on him was called Faithful and True. And in righteousness He judges and makes war.
Rev 19:12 And His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head many crowns. And He had a name written, one that no one knew except Himself.
Rev 19:13 And He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies in Heaven followed Him on white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15 And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, so that with it He should strike the nations. And He will shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the wine of the anger and of the wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16 And He has on His garment, and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

I don't know if I should laugh or cry. You go to a book that has nothing but figures of speech and parables.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I don't know if I should laugh or cry. You go to a book that has nothing but figures of speech and parables.

"Nothing but"...... watch how you exaggerate. I bet those words are in some form in the REV. What gives?

 

[synergy]

I don't know if I should laugh or cry. You go to a book that has nothing but figures of speech and parables.

So I'll add your loathing and despising of the Book of Revelation to your list:

1. You have no understanding of Greek.
2. You just brush aside the Greek language like it's trash.
3. You humbly boast that you are the spiritual "expert" here.
4. You place yourself above the Apostles.
5. You're willing to change the very words of Apostle John to an "it".
6. You degrade the Uncreated Word of God to an "it".
7. You loath the Book of Revelation.
8. Should I go on?

 

[Keiw1]

Catholic simply means "Universal". It was simply a "conceptional" teaching that preexisted the Roman Catholic church by centuries. Don't confuse the concept with the distinctness of Roman Catholicism.

All trinity religions are a major part of Babylon the great. They are a house divided, they will not stand.

 

[praise_yeshua]

All trinity religions are a major part of Babylon the great. They are a house divided, they will not stand.

So you actually believe exalting Jesus Christ to be equal with God is satanic?

 

[Keiw1]

So you actually believe exalting Jesus Christ to be equal with God is satanic?

Here is what Jesus said--The Father is greater than i.