twisting-To remain in his Fathers love Jesus had to obey the commands given to him from the Father-John 15:10-14He had same glory of God the father, and had same authority, but laid that aside to accept limitation of assuming human flesh
twisting-To remain in his Fathers love Jesus had to obey the commands given to him from the Father-John 15:10-14He had same glory of God the father, and had same authority, but laid that aside to accept limitation of assuming human flesh
All religions have some truth. God requires all truth( John 4:22-240 not just some. The trinity religions are a mass of confusion=a lack of holy spirit. Jesus promised his to guide into all truth.You’re appealing to a Catholic encyclopedia to claim the RCC altered doctrine—while at the same time blaming the RCC for corrupting everything. You can’t use it as evidence and dismiss it when it disagrees with you.
More importantly, the belief in Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as divine did not come from the RCC.
Ignatius of Antioch (AD 107) calls Jesus “our God”
Justin Martyr (2nd century) describes Father, Son, and Spirit in worship
Irenaeus (c. 180 AD) speaks of the Son and Spirit as the hands of God
These are pre-Roman Catholic system as you’re defining it. They are not medieval, not altered by Protestants, and not dependent on later councils.
And if your argument is “they were altered too,” then you’ve left evidence behind entirely—because now any historical source can be dismissed without proof.
That’s not an argument. That’s avoiding evidence.
Catholicism mistranslated proskeneu for Jesus-Obeisance is the correct usage for him-he has a God, none who has a God gets worship.When are you going to obey the FATHER who commands you to worship His Son = the Lord Jesus Christ
"No one comes to the FATHER except THRU the SON"
Yes the only God=YHVH(Jehovah)"I am HE" is YHWH who appeared to Moses and Isaiah and Ezekiel
“Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last." = Isaiah 48:12
When Elohim the SON came to earth, HE humbled Himself as a man.Catholicism mistranslated proskeneu for Jesus-Obeisance is the correct usage for him-he has a God, none who has a God gets worship.
they got it from somewhere....... The word "Trinity" comes from the Latin term "trinitas," meaning "threefold," which was used to describe the unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Christian doctrine. It was first used by early church fathers like Tertullian in the 2nd century to express this concept of one God in three personsAll religions have some truth. God requires all truth( John 4:22-240 not just some. The trinity religions are a mass of confusion=a lack of holy spirit. Jesus promised his to guide into all truth.
The Holy Spirit is GodAll religions have some truth. God requires all truth( John 4:22-240 not just some. The trinity religions are a mass of confusion=a lack of holy spirit. Jesus promised his to guide into all truth.
The Trinity doctrine came down to the ECF thru the very teachings of the Apostles of the Lord Jesus themselves , as Polycarp was an example of one who had received that truth from Johnthey got it from somewhere....... The word "Trinity" comes from the Latin term "trinitas," meaning "threefold," which was used to describe the unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Christian doctrine. It was first used by early church fathers like Tertullian in the 2nd century to express this concept of one God in three persons
The Ecf who taught in received that from the Apostles themselvesThats a lie-Israel NEVER served a trinity god=100% fact. The apostles knew nothing of a trinity.
There are passage where the Father had no article, so would that mean Father was not God also?The true God at both spots in NT where 2 are called God or God was called Ho THEOS= The God--While the Word and satan got Theos=god under that scenario=100% fact.
many quotations from second century confirmed that the ECF received the doctrine of the trinity and held to it and taught itCatholicism encyclopedia says--The apostolic Fathers knew 0 of God being a trinity. As well from my studies the council of Nicea was altered in the 20th century, thus most likely what the apostolic Fathers said as well.
The word "Trinity" comes from the Latin term "trinitas," meaning "threefold," which was used to describe the unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Christian doctrine.Catholicism encyclopedia says--The apostolic Fathers knew 0 of God being a trinity. As well from my studies the council of Nicea was altered in the 20th century, thus most likely what the apostolic Fathers said as well.
The Roman Catholic Church did not even exist in proper until papacy, so the ECF were teaching that doctrine way before 325 ADThe word "Trinity" comes from the Latin term "trinitas," meaning "threefold," which was used to describe the unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Christian doctrine.
Has nothing to do with the RCC
While Trinitas is a Latin term meaning "the Trinity," which refers to the Christian doctrine of one God in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. In Greek, the concept is often expressed as "Τριάς" (Trias), which also means "triad" or "threefold."
Here is what should be an easy question.
Say you are a translator and you run across a word "trinitas," meaning "threefold," or you run across the word
"Τριάς" (Trias), which also means "triad" or "threefold."
And you are trying to make sense to the people who will be reading you.
What word would you come up with .....
So trueThe Roman Catholic Church did not even exist in proper until papacy, so the ECF were teaching that doctrine way before 325 AD
Gen 1:27 assures only 1/2 of the US created= HE. Prov 8:27-28 backs that truth up-only a HE created -When Elohim the SON came to earth, HE humbled Himself as a man.
Mankind has the God who is ELOHIM from Genesis chapter 1 = "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness"
Yes unity of purpose as John 17 explains.they got it from somewhere....... The word "Trinity" comes from the Latin term "trinitas," meaning "threefold," which was used to describe the unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Christian doctrine. It was first used by early church fathers like Tertullian in the 2nd century to express this concept of one God in three persons
It isn't even a living being. It has 0 equality with the Father and son.The Holy Spirit is God
The apostles never taught a trinity, neither did Paul-1Cor 8:6--There is ONE God to all the Father. --explain to all of us why he didnt mention a trinity when he warned all other gods were false in verse 5 then named only the Father as God?The Ecf who taught in received that from the Apostles themselves
Its 100% fact in Greek the true God at both spots is called a different Greek word than the Word and satan are called. To show the difference of God and god.There are passage where the Father had no article, so would that mean Father was not God also?
No such word in Gods bible as trinity.The word "Trinity" comes from the Latin term "trinitas," meaning "threefold," which was used to describe the unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Christian doctrine.
Has nothing to do with the RCC
While Trinitas is a Latin term meaning "the Trinity," which refers to the Christian doctrine of one God in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. In Greek, the concept is often expressed as "Τριάς" (Trias), which also means "triad" or "threefold."
Here is what should be an easy question.
Say you are a translator and you run across a word "trinitas," meaning "threefold," or you run across the word
"Τριάς" (Trias), which also means "triad" or "threefold."
And you are trying to make sense to the people who will be reading you.
What word would you come up with .....