The Elect

[civic]

When God sends people into the lake of fire will He be as you say unloving ? Matt 25:41

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

I never said it was unloving nice try- you think its unloving, not me. I can reconcile Gods love with His longsuffering, judgement, wrath etc...

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

If God is love and Scripture says He is then can God do anything that is unloving ? yes or no

No, but you don't get to decide what is unloving. That's the problem.

 

[civic]

All are not Christs Offspring, He is Elect and so is His Offspring in Him

offspring ?

Got Scripture ?

 

[civic]

No, but you don't get to decide what is unloving. That's the problem.

I never said I did and I can harmonize Gods love with everything else about who God declares Himself to be in Scripture.

 

[praise_yeshua]

All are not Christs Offspring, He is Elect and so is His Offspring in Him

You are the offspring of Adam and Eve. You're ignoring this so you can deny love for you brothers in Adam.

You hate some of your brothers in Adam and you show it in your theology. You justify your hatred by claiming your hate them because you believe God hates them.

Christ is nothing more than a means to you.

 

[praise_yeshua]

All are not Christs Offspring, He is Elect and so is His Offspring in Him

Was Christ the offspring of Adam and Eve?

Your logic fails at every level.

 

[civic]

You are the offspring of Adam and Eve. You're ignoring this so you can deny love for you brothers in Adam.

You hate some of your brothers in Adam and you show it in your theology. You justify your hatred by claiming your hate them because you believe God hates them.

Christ is nothing more than a means to you.

some of the worst crimes committed in human history were at the hands and authority of religious nut jobs. men hide behind God and justify their hatful and murderous actions.

 

[civic]

Was Christ the offspring of Adam and Eve?

Your logic fails at every level.

This should be a good one lol. I guess the 2nd Adam did not come from heaven.

Paul got that wrong as did Jesus.

 

[praise_yeshua]

some of the worst crimes committed in human history were at the hands and authority of religious nut jobs. men hide behind God and justify their hatful and murderous actions.

So true. If a Calvinist had power (like God)....

How many people would you think would survive from this forum?

 

[TomL]

All are not Christs Offspring, He is Elect and so is His Offspring in Him

No one is unconditionally in Christ

Ephesians 1:13 (ESV) — 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

 

[praise_yeshua]

This should be a good one lol. I guess the 2nd Adam did not come from heaven.

They have no idea what they're doing. They are just reacting. They don't have a real systematic theology. It is falling apart all around them.

 

[civic]

So true. If a Calvinist had power (like God)....

How many people would you think would from this forum?

We saw it during the reformation with the persecutions from both Calvin and Luther on those who opposed their doctrines. And also from their mother church.

 

[civic]

No one is unconditionally in Christ

Ephesians 1:13 (ESV) — 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

Amen

 

[TomL]

No, but you don't get to decide what is unloving. That's the problem.

Really? Can one not see it is unloving and disingenuous to claim to desire salvation for man while actually determining his destruction.

 

[TomL]

So true. If a Calvinist had power (like God)....

How many people would you think would survive from this forum?

I don't know about this forum but if it was that other site I'd be toast literally

 

[civic]

Really? Can one not see it is unloving and disingenuous to claim to desire salvation for man while actually determining his destruction.

somehow they call that benevolent. just another case of having to turn a blind eye to the very basic meaning of a word to uphold a doctrinal position one believes.

 

[brightfame52]

I never said it was unloving nice try- you think its unloving, not me. I can reconcile Gods love with His longsuffering, judgement, wrath etc...

Then you answered your own question

 

[civic]

I don't know about this forum but if it was that other site I'd be toast literally

we were both burnt toast.

 

[civic]

Then you answered your own question

But you didn't

 

[brightfame52]

You are the offspring of Adam and Eve. You're ignoring this so you can deny love for you brothers in Adam.

You hate some of your brothers in Adam and you show it in your theology. You justify your hatred by claiming your hate them because you believe God hates them.

Christ is nothing more than a means to you.

All are not the offspring of Christ. Just the Elect seed. And you are slandering me again