The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

[civic]

ERROR, the ETERNAL, is the ONE TRUE GOD , (ONE PERSON), who was shared in flesh and blood to Come whom is called Son. and yes his Name was not yet disclosed, because he had not yet manifested in flesh..... YIKES!

101G

yes you are in grave error

 

[TomL]

Let's do a sanity test.

The son of man is not the Ancient of Days. True or False.

Daniel 7
13“I saw in the night visions,
and behold, with the clouds of heaven
there came one like a son of man,
and he came to the Ancient of Days
and was presented before him.

True Which is fully consistent with Trinitarianism

 

[101G]

@civic
did you not KNOW that he, God, had the name before HE God CONCIVED that flesh in Mary's womb.... even before the flesh was brought forth? Listen and Learn, Luke 2:21 "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb."

did you understand that verse?

101G.

 

[civic]

@civic
did you not KNOW that he, God, had the name before HE God CONCIVED that flesh in Mary's womb.... even before the flesh was brought forth? Listen and Learn, Luke 2:21 "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb."

did you understand that verse?

101G.

Jesus is the human name given to the Eternal Son when He would become a man.

next

 

[TomL]

@civic
did you not KNOW that he, God, had the name before HE God CONCIVED that flesh in Mary's womb.... even before the flesh was brought forth? Listen and Learn, Luke 2:21 "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb."

did you understand that verse?

101G.

Um nothing at all to do with the name of he who was creating in the beginning

 

[101G]

@TomL,

Let's do a sanity test.

The son of man is not the Ancient of Days. True or False.

Daniel 7
13“I saw in the night visions,
and behold, with the clouds of heaven
there came one like a son of man,
and he came to the Ancient of Days
and was presented before him.

you said, "True Which is fully consistent with Trinitarianism"

ERROR, the resurrected Jesus the Christ is the Ancient of Days.. just compare Revelation 1:13-15 with Dan 7:10 & 11... the same one person.

101G.

 

[civic]

@TomL,

you said, "True Which is fully consistent with Trinitarianism"

ERROR, the resurrected Jesus the Christ is the Ancient of Days.. just compare Revelation 1:13-15 with Dan 7:10 & 11... the same one person.

101G.

who is not the Father

 

[101G]

Jesus is the human name given to the Eternal Son when He would become a man.

next

ERROR, that IMAGE of MAN was to come who is God in flesh.... see Genesis 1:26...... (smile).

now, 101G ask you, if MAN is the IMAGE of God. how can a IMAGE "Exist" when the source was not yet present. please explain.

101G.

 

[101G]

Um nothing at all to do with the name of he who was creating in the beginning

see post #646 above.... (smile).

101G

 

[101G]

who is not the Father

the ONE who is the Fathe, and the Son, both title HOLDERS,,,,,, the Holy Spirit....... (smile).... did you understand that?....... YIKES!

101G.

 

[101G]

NOW, to all

If Man is the IMAGE of God, .... Question, "was flesh bone and blood at creation in the beginning?", yes or no.

101G

 

[101G]

To all,
this is basic Bible study, which should be KNOWN by every Christian. God was "ALONE" and "BY HIMSELF" when he made all things. and God is Spirit... correct? ...... correct.

so, where is flesh and blood at?. and is not the Christ, flesh bone and blood?

but is not man God IMAGE? yes, but was not that IMAGE to come? Romans 5:14 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come." and FIGURE: is fashion, shape or form.

101G

 

[101G]

101G just cannot believe these responses. God made an IMAGE of HIMSELF (man), that was to come. scripture, Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"

Oh my, and did not God come in flesh in the END?

101G.

 

[TomL]

see post #646 above.... (smile).

101G

Sorry but in

Daniel 7:13 (KJV 1900) — 13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

Jesus is the son of man who is given a kingdom

Luke 19:11–12 (LSB) — 11 Now while they were listening to these things, Jesus went on to tell a parable, because He was near Jerusalem, and they thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately. 12 So He said, “A nobleman went to a distant country to receive a kingdom for himself, and then return.

 

[101G]

Sorry but in

Daniel 7:13 (KJV 1900) — 13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

Jesus is the son of man who is given a kingdom

Luke 19:11–12 (LSB) — 11 Now while they were listening to these things, Jesus went on to tell a parable, because He was near Jerusalem, and they thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately. 12 So He said, “A nobleman went to a distant country to receive a kingdom for himself, and then return.

look, compare the hair, the feet, and the eyes.... and understand this, is not God a "Spirit". so do God have a body? .... with eyes, feet, and hair? well...............

you still don't see it .... do you?
READ 101G lips...... "Jesus the Christ made NOTHING..... but JESUS did".... (smile).

Oh this is too easy. ..............

101G.

 

[TomL]

look, compare the hair, the feet, and the eyes.... and understand this, is not God a "Spirit". so do God have a body? .... with eyes, feet, and hair? well...............

you still don't see it .... do you?
READ 101G lips...... "Jesus the Christ made NOTHING..... but JESUS did".... (smile).

Oh this is too easy. ..............

101G.

Nope God is a spirit

John 4:24 (KJV 1900) — 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Look up anthropomorphism

Again there was no Jesus at creation

There was the word

Hello

Karma came back and bit you

 

[Runningman]

is the proper recipient of pelach.

I didn't read the rest of what you posted.

If by that you mean servitude and not prayer/worship then you have a point. Otherwise, you're just provoking more debate over an already dead-beaten horse. God and the son of man aren't the same person in Daniel 7. They aren't the same person anywhere in the Bible.

 

[Runningman]

@TomL,

you said, "True Which is fully consistent with Trinitarianism"

ERROR, the resurrected Jesus the Christ is the Ancient of Days.. just compare Revelation 1:13-15 with Dan 7:10 & 11... the same one person.

101G.

How can Jesus be the Ancient of Days when he approached Him? Doesn't that sound like one isn't the other?

When you "approach the throne of grace" are you the Ancient of Days? No?

Hebrews 4
16Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

 

[Fred]

If by that you mean servitude and not prayer/worship then you have a point.

To be the proper recipient of pelach (Daniel 6:16) is to be the proper recipient of prayer (Daniel 6:10).

 

[Runningman]

To be the proper recipient of pelach (Daniel 6:16) is to be the proper recipient of prayer (Daniel 6:10).

No one ever taught anything concerning prayer to the son of man in Scripture. The son of man didn't teach that. No sermon I've ever heard mentioned it. No commentaries I've read mentioned it. I believe in your zeal to find reasons to pray to Jesus you have gone done a very dark and confusing path. Come back to the light. Jesus taught us to the pray to the Father in Matthew 6:6,9. The choice is yours.