The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

[Runningman]

Which was trash.

I already did that.

Let's do a sanity test.

The son of man is not the Ancient of Days. True or False.

Daniel 7
13“I saw in the night visions,
and behold, with the clouds of heaven
there came one like a son of man,
and he came to the Ancient of Days
and was presented before him.

 

[Runningman]

That’s a presumption that God is not Plural. It’s a fallacious argument since God declares He is Plural in Persons.

God never said " I am a Plural in Persons" nor did anyone else in the Bible. Speaking of fallacious arguments.

 

[Fred]

Let's do a sanity test.

The spiritually insane should not administer this kind of test.

Get a new hobby.

 

[civic]

God never said " I am a Plural in Persons" nor did anyone else in the Bible. Speaking of fallacious arguments.

Sure did since Us, We, Our are plural not singular.

Next fallacy

 

[Runningman]

The spiritually insane should not administer this kind of test.

Get a new hobby.

Daniel 7
13“I saw in the night visions,
and behold, with the clouds of heaven
there came one like a son of man,
and he came to the Ancient of Days
and was presented before him.

Numbers 23
19God is not a man, that He should lie,
or a son of man, that He should change His mind.
Does He speak and not act?
Does He promise and not fulfill?

 

[Fred]

Daniel 7
13“I saw in the night visions,
and behold, with the clouds of heaven
there came one like a son of man,
and he came to the Ancient of Days
and was presented before him.

verse 14 teaches the Son of Man is the proper recipient of pelach.

Thanks for posting.

 

[Runningman]

Sure did since Us, We, Our are plural not singular.

Next fallacy

You don't understand the word elohim. I am assuming that's what you're referring to. It doesn't refer to numerical quantity, but rather amplification of a singular characteristic in Hebrew grammar.

Case in point, are you plural in persons?

Psalm 82
6I have said, ‘You are gods; (ELOHIM)
you are all sons of the Most High.’

 

[Runningman]

verse 14 teaches the Son of Man is the proper recipient of pelach.

Thanks for posting.

And the son of man isn't God and Numbers 23:19 proves it. Your teaching is not from God. Let's see you argue your way out of that one.

 

[Fred]

And the son of man isn't God and Numbers 23:19 proves it. Your teaching is not from God. Let's see you argue your way out of that one.

Another dodge by you of pelach in Daniel 7:14.

Pitiful attempt on your part, but I'm used to seeing such ridiculous tactics.

 

[Runningman]

Another dodge by you of pelach in Daniel 7:14.

Pitiful attempt on your part, but I'm used to seeing such ridiculous tactics.

The Bible forbids praying to someone who isn't God. No thanks. Keep your idolatry if you insist.

 

[Fred]

The Bible forbids praying to someone who isn't God. No thanks. Keep your idolatry if you insist.

Daniel 7:14 is there to show that Jesus is God. Keep your satanic creature-jesus if you wish.

 

[Runningman]

Daniel 7:14 is there to show that Jesus is God.

Daniel 7:13-14 says the son of man approached the Ancient of Days (God) so that would mean Jesus isn't God. The son of man returns on the clouds of heaven... Jesus even referenced this when they put him on trial in Matthew 26:64... he plainly admitted to anyone who knows scripture that he isn't himself God, despite the false accusations against him.

No Jewish Pharisee would have interpreted Daniel 7:13-14 as the son of man himself being God. No way.

So about that return of Jesus on the clouds... Guess what? God actually brings Jesus back. Jesus doesn't return under his own power on the clouds... the Bible says so.


1 Thessalonians 4
14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

 

[Fred]

Daniel 7:13-14 says the son of man

is the proper recipient of pelach.

I didn't read the rest of what you posted.

 

[TomL]

Brazen to say the least and it puts you automatically at the disadvantage. The son of man and God are together in Daniel 7:13 and you're saying they're the same person. You're hysterical, man.

Daniel 7
13In my vision in the night I continued to watch,
and I saw One like the Son of Man
coming with the clouds of heaven.
He approached the Ancient of Days
and was led into His presence.

Um for the record the doctrine of the trinity does not state they are the same person

If that is what you believe you do not understand the doctrine

 

[101G]

Already answered a long time ago

when I told you the physical work of creation was done by Jesus Christ alone

GINOLJC, to all,
ERROR, listen closely, all things was created and made by the Lord JESUS..... got it..... not the Lord Jesus The Christ. flesh and blood was not Physically at the beginning of creation.

KNOW the difference between the Lord JESUS, and the Lord JESUS ..... The Christ.

101G.

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[101G]

@Fred
why are you sad? was flesh bone and blood at the beginning of Creation? .... NO. see, why are you sad?....... (smile).

101G.

 

[TomL]

GINOLJC, to all,
ERROR, listen closely, all things was created and made by the Lord JESUS..... got it..... not the Lord Jesus The Christ. flesh and blood was not Physically at the beginning of creation.

KNOW the difference between the Lord JESUS, and the Lord JESUS ..... The Christ.

101G.

.

1 PAUL, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother, 2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, 4 Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints, 5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; 6 Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth: 7 As ye also learned of Epaphras our dear fellowservant, who is for you a faithful minister of Christ; 8 Who also declared unto us your love in the Spirit.
9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; 10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; 11 Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness; 12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him


The Holy Bible: King James Version (Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version.; Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Col 1.

 

[civic]

GINOLJC, to all,
ERROR, listen closely, all things was created and made by the Lord JESUS..... got it..... not the Lord Jesus The Christ. flesh and blood was not Physically at the beginning of creation.

KNOW the difference between the Lord JESUS, and the Lord JESUS ..... The Christ.

101G.

.

There was no Jesus before creation- that's His human name. He was the Eternal Son who is not the Father.

 

[TomL]

There was no Jesus before creation- that's His human name. He was the Eternal Son who is not the Father.

Karma

 

[101G]

There was no Jesus before creation- that's His human name. He was the Eternal Son who is not the Father.

ERROR, the ETERNAL, is the ONE TRUE GOD , (ONE PERSON), who was shared in flesh and blood to Come whom is called Son. and yes his Name was not yet disclosed, because he had not yet manifested in flesh..... YIKES!

101G