The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

Runningman said:
Low hanging fruit with a soft underbelly, just like the trinity doctrine. Easy pickings and the fastest way to wake you people up is by exposing the errors.
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When are you going to start? Oh I know just a soon as your are done exposing the fact that that you haven't a clue who Jesus really is. Your concept of Jesus leads you to a maze of difficulties. Specifically the fact that you don't understand that: Jesus is God in the flash.
 
Runningman said:
The subject (Jesus) being in the passive voice refers to him receiving the action of the resurrection. What you need is the subject (Jesus) being in the ACTIVE voice which would mean Jesus did the action. John 2:22 refutes you.
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When the grammar is right under your nose, you still get it wrong.

This sentence uses the passive and conveys no actor identity: "mike, alerted to commotion on the street, went out to see a couple fighting."

This can be where Mike himself has become alerted or it can be someone telling him of commotion. This is the same form of grammar about Jesus raised from the dead. You do not recognize grammar and it causes you to fail on you exegesis.
 
Duane said:
When are you going to start? Oh I know just a soon as your are done exposing the fact that that you haven't a clue who Jesus really is. Your concept of Jesus leads you to a maze of difficulties. Specifically the fact that you don't understand that: Jesus is God in the flash.
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It's because you don't understand Jesus. Do you want to know who the real Jesus is?
 
mikesw said:
When the grammar is right under your nose, you still get it wrong.

This sentence uses the passive and conveys no actor identity: "mike, alerted to commotion on the street, went out to see a couple fighting."

This can be where Mike himself has become alerted or it can be someone telling him of commotion. This is the same form of grammar about Jesus raised from the dead. You do not recognize grammar and it causes you to fail on you exegesis.
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This reads like you don't agree with reality. This is an example of invincible ignorance. The thing you will never have is the active voice in John 2:22. You lost and you can't do anything about it even if you try.
 
Runningman said:
This reads like you don't agree with reality. This is an example of invincible ignorance. The thing you will never have is the active voice in John 2:22. You lost and you can't do anything about it even if you try.
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Indeed. I cannot do anything about getting you to understand grammar. If you have not learned grammar and exegesis yet, then indeed i have lost. Your problem of people not finding an active voice just speaks against you. This does not have to be an active voice for Jesus to be raising himself, as he promised. You disrespect Jesus by implying he is a liar.
IN simple terms I can ask: Since Jesus promised to raise the temple that is body in three days, when did he do that?
 
mikesw said:
Indeed. I cannot do anything about getting you to understand grammar. If you have not learned grammar and exegesis yet, then indeed i have lost. Your problem of people not finding an active voice just speaks against you. This does not have to be an active voice for Jesus to be raising himself, as he promised. You disrespect Jesus by implying he is a liar.
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You lost. No active voice in John 2:22. This is proof that Jesus didn't raise himself from the dead. No one else even said he did.
 
Runningman said:
You lost. No active voice in John 2:22. This is proof that Jesus didn't raise himself from the dead. No one else even said he did.
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I had added to the post you responded to.
You disrespect Jesus by implying he is a liar.

In simple terms I can ask: Since Jesus promised to raise the temple that is body in three days, when did he do that such that you can show you do not think Jesus lied?

All I see from you is a rejection of the true attributes of Christ Jesus.
 
mikesw said:
I had added to the post you responded to.
You disrespect Jesus by implying he is a liar.

In simple terms I can ask: Since Jesus promised to raise the temple that is body in three days, when did he do that such that you can show you do not think Jesus lied?

All I see from you is a rejection of the true attributes of Christ Jesus.
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So John 2:22 proves that Jesus gave a prophecy. I encourage you to not call Jesus a liar.
 
Runningman said:
So John 2:22 proves that Jesus gave a prophecy. I encourage you to not call Jesus a liar.
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In John 2:19, he said he will raise the temple which is his body. Did he raise himself from death? You either agree or you call Jesus a liar. Simple logic for most of us.
 
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Runningman said:
This reads like you don't agree with reality. This is an example of invincible ignorance. The thing you will never have is the active voice in John 2:22. You lost and you can't do anything about it even if you try.
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You mean like here

John 10:17 (LEB) — 17 Because of this the Father loves me, because I lay down my life so that I may take possession of it again.

and here

John 2:19 (LEB) — 19 Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up!”
 

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