The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

[Runningman]

I think we have seen by now Acts 2:21 is not the only New Testament passage which applies to Jesus what the Old Testament applies to YHWH

Prove Jesus is YHWH then. So far I have not seen anyone touch that yet.

 

[Runningman]

Your attempt to run away from the proof from Acts 2:21 is obvious.

Keep hiding.

Open a thread on it and let’s talk about it for 100 pages. I know with 100% certainty Jesus isn’t YHWH and want to control your page 1 with these facts. Let me know when you’re ready.

 

[Runningman]

Yes but their case here is obviously weak

the Unitarian case is Scripture. Trinitarianism isn’t.

 

[Runningman]

No Sorry you are simply ignoring the evidence

Jesus is the one lord

1 Corinthians 8:6 (NASB 2020) — 6 yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Stephen prayed lord Jesus

Paul called Jesus Lord

But most of all context

Acts 1:21 (NASB 2020) — 21 Therefore it is necessary that of the men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us—

Case closed

There you go. You have proven Jesus isn’t God. You just said there is one God the Father. That’s super clear. Jesus isn’t God then.

 

[Runningman]

Um it appears to me you are clearly in denial

Acts 7:59–60 (NASB 2020) — 59 They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them!” Having said this, he fell asleep.

I already asked you to prove how speaking to Jesus is any different than speaking to someone else in heaven who isn’t God.

Why do you keep saying Jesus was prayed to when the Bible never says he was and no one was commanded to pray to Jesus?

 

[civic]

No Sorry you are simply ignoring the evidence

Jesus is the one lord

1 Corinthians 8:6 (NASB 2020) — 6 yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Stephen prayed lord Jesus

Paul called Jesus Lord

But most of all context

Acts 1:21 (NASB 2020) — 21 Therefore it is necessary that of the men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us—

Case closed

Amen yet done will still remain in De Nile after reading the truth above and elevate their doctrine above Gods word

 

[Fred]

Open a thread on it and let’s talk about it for 100 pages.

Nope.

I don't go by your ridiculous demands.

The evidence is there but you love hiding from it.

 

[Runningman]

Amen yet done will still remain in De Nile after reading the truth above and elevate their doctrine above Gods word

Before Acts 1:21 there are no examples of praying to Jesus or anything teachings about praying to Jesus. So that’s a pretty bad argument to say that the prayed to Jesus in Acts 1:21.

 

[Runningman]

Nope.

I don't go by your ridiculous demands.

The evidence is there but you love hiding from it.

Ok. Don’t open a thread. Are you going to open one now that I told you not to?

 

[David Koberstein]

Good. Then Jesus isn’t God.

Your point is moot. It doesn’t say they prayed to Jesus or they they did in example.

You’re making this too easy for me.

You need to read Phillipian

Good. Then Jesus isn’t God.

Your point is moot. It doesn’t say they prayed to Jesus or that they did in example.

You’re making this too easy for me.

His heretic points crashed and burned along time ago.

Philippians 2:6-11

King James Version
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6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Shalom

 

[Fred]

Ok. Don’t open a thread.

Open your mind.

 

[synergy]

Good. Then Jesus isn’t God.

Your point is moot. It doesn’t say they prayed to Jesus or that they did in example.

You’re making this too easy for me.

You failed miserably to prove that the Communion Prayer is given ONLY to the Father. Where in Luke 22:14-21 is the word "Father" even mentioned? Your Judaizing presuppositions are again blinding you to the truth. Jesus instructed everyone to pray to God whom Jesus declared himself to be in John 8:58. Trinitarianism demolishes the Judaizing heresy once again. Your Judaizing points are now just dust and smoke.

 

[Runningman]

You need to read Phillipian

His heretic points crashed and burned along time ago.

Philippians 2:6-11​

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King James Version​

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6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Shalom

You need to read verse 5 with it.

Phil. 2
5Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus:

The context is regarding what the church of Philippi would have in their minds.

The next few verses are about Jesus not being God. Use your common sense. Paul wasn’t telling them to think they are God was he?

 

[Runningman]

You failed miserably to prove that the Communion Prayer is given ONLY to the Father. Where in Luke 22:14-21 is the word "Father" even mentioned? Your Judaizing presuppositions are again blinding you to the truth. Jesus instructed everyone to pray to God whom Jesus declared himself to be in John 8:58. Trinitarianism demolishes the Judaizing heresy once again. Your Judaizing points are now just dust and smoke.

That’s called transference. The burden of proof is on you to prove your own claims. That’s rich you think you can blame me for your own epic failure. It doesn’t even say the word prayer. You’re going to have a hard time proving this way a prayer to Jesus.

 

[civic]

Before Acts 1:21 there are no examples of praying to Jesus or anything teachings about praying to Jesus. So that’s a pretty bad argument to say that the prayed to Jesus in Acts 1:21.

Of course they prayed to Jesus as Lord in 1:24 because they knew the Lord Jesus knew the hearts of man and what they were thinking . Try believing Gods word about the Lord Jesus Christ, the One Lord, Only Lord.

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[synergy]

That’s called transference. The burden of proof is on you to prove your own claims. That’s rich you think you can blame me for your own epic failure. It doesn’t even say the word prayer. You’re going to have a hard time proving this way a prayer to Jesus.

You don't think that prayer is involved in the Communion Prayer Services?!?! Wow! You're embarrassing yourself. Massive failure on your part.

 

[Runningman]

Of course they prayed to Jesus as Lord in 1:24 because they knew the Lord Jesus knew the hearts of man and what they were thinking . Try believing Gods word about the Lord Jesus Christ, the One Lord, Only Lord.

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Just saying of course they prayed to Jesus is hardly an argument. You think you just needed to say “of course they prayed to Jesus” without citing any examples of prayer or teachings to pray to Jesus. What you’re saying is unprecedented and unscriptural.

 

[civic]

You don't think that prayer is involved in the Communion Prayer Services?!?! Wow! You're embarrassing yourself. Massive failure on your part.

Yes amazing how God truth gets Pooh Poohed away. The doctrines of man blind many to His truth

 

[civic]

Just saying of course they prayed to Jesus is hardly an argument. You think you just needed to say “of course they prayed to Jesus” without citing any examples of prayer or teachings to pray to Jesus. What you’re saying is unprecedented and unscriptural.

I’ve cited dozens of examples the past couple of days and you deny them

 

[Runningman]

You don't think that prayer is involved in the Communion Prayer Services?!?! Wow! You're embarrassing yourself. Massive failure on your part.

You’re the one who brought it up lol. Make your case about prayer to Jesus or change the subject.