The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

They ALL do.

Refusal of the TRUTH causes hardness of heart and blindness.

no angel dared to ever say what CHRIST Did .
no man upon earth had ever claimed such things .
I am THE WAY , THE TRUTH , And THE LIFE .
I am the RESSURECTION . Not just saying He knew truth , or had life , BUT IS TRUTH AND IS LIFE .
Show me where one angel , one saint , one prophet ever said such a thing .
That would for sure have sounded blasphemous to many . JUST who do you MAKE yourself ..........
You aint even fifty years old and yet you have seen abraham .
Not only did Jesus said Oh i seen him , BUT BEFORE ABRAHAM EVEN WAS I AM .
that is one bold statment . The prophets are dead , abraham is dead .........................
Look at his speech . And when we do remember this
FOR this reason was i born and for this cause came i into the world
to TESTIFY of THE TRUTH
all who are of the Truth hear my voice . HIS WORDS are truth
and yet many cannot see the truth within His own words .
JESUS is not a man that he can lie .
JESUS CHRIST the same YESTERDAY , TODAY and forever .
WHO is the one constant that cannot deny Himself , that cannot change His own nature
but simply remains ...............
THE WORD was WITH GOD and GOD IS THE WORD . its about as simple as that .
And unless folks want to beleive in pantheism , which be a lie
GOD is NOT THE CREATED . BUT the creator .
GOD created man from the dirt
But later one would come in the form of man , WHO HAD NO BEGINNING
who was not created but had created all . folks are in trouble in these last hours
and many have no idea the removal and seperation of GOD and of CHRIST was A PLANNED EVENT .
in order to put THE CHRIST on the same level as every other prophet in any other religoin
SO as to eventually mold them as one . A LIE has BEEN SENT and many have loved this lie .
My advice to one and to all is , BIBLE UP and if it is written DONT TWIST IT , JUST BELIEVE IT .

 

[DavidTree]

IS GOD LIFE .
Yes .
I AM THE RESSURECTION .
Jesus IS THE RESSURECTION . many do not understand that GOD IS HIS OWN ESSENCE .
As life came forth OF HE WHO IS LIFE by THE SPIRIT BY HIS WORD , which would later take on human flesh
TO DO what no man could do . SAVE US , to save those who do beleive .
WITH MAN this is impossible . WITH MAN this is impossible .
No angel was sent
no mere man was created either .
FOR WITH MAN it is impossible , but NOT WITH GOD .
HE who had created all
HAD to save HIS OWN creation and no man can save himself . BUT GOD CAN , JESUS CAN .

FOR WITH MAN it is impossible , but NOT WITH GOD .

Well then, if Jesus were just a mere man He could save no one!!!
the Word that was God became flesh and dwelt among us = Immanuel = God with us.
Only Immanuel, God with us, could SAVE mankind from sin and make an END of it.
Bless the Lord, O my soul;
And all that is within me, bless His holy name!
2Bless the Lord, O my soul,
And forget not all His benefits:
3Who forgives all your iniquities,
Who heals all your diseases,
4Who redeems your life from destruction,
Who crowns you with lovingkindness and tender mercies,
5Who satisfies your mouth with good things,
So that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s.
6The Lord executes righteousness
And justice for all who are oppressed.
7He made known His ways to Moses,
His acts to the children of Israel.
8The Lord is merciful and gracious,
Slow to anger, and abounding in mercy.
9He will not always strive with us,
Nor will He keep His anger forever.
10He has not dealt with us according to our sins,
Nor punished us according to our iniquities.
11For as the heavens are high above the earth,
So great is His mercy toward those who fear Him;
12As far as the east is from the west,
So far has He removed our transgressions from us.

 

[DavidTree]

There are simply too many fallacies to untangle with you. Just try reading Jesus' teachings. He taught there is only one God, the Father, in John 17:3. He only ever taught people to pray to the Father in Matthew 6:6,9, only ever taught fasting for the Father in Matthew 6:16-18, only ever taught people to worship the Father in John 4:23,24. He denied being God, too, especially in Mark 10:18. No one ever anything about Jesus being the God we worship or pray to or is the creator. So you're completely missing the point of all of these verses. I don't believe you can be helped. You're heavily indoctrinated into Trinitarianism and cling onto it even after you've been proven wrong.

Here's a question... how do you know that John 17:3 isn't meant to be believed for what it says at face value? You're going to be in a lot of trouble if you missed that. Are you willing to risk your soul for an Internet forum debate?

John 5
24Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever hears My word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life and will not come under judgment. Indeed, he has crossed over from death to life.

John 17
3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.

Refusal of the TRUTH causes hardness of heart and blindness.
Your unbelief leaves you whereby you cannot SEE
Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.

No Eternal Life apart from the LORD Jesus Christ = like FATHER like SON

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

Refusal of the TRUTH causes hardness of heart and blindness.
Your unbelief leaves you whereby you cannot SEE
Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.

No Eternal Life apart from the LORD Jesus Christ = like FATHER like SON

Look real closely at the last sentence you wrote .
NO eternal life apart from the LORD JESUS CHRIST .
HE IS ETERNAL LIFE . HE IS LIFE ITSELF . Who else is LIFE ITSELF . GOD IS .
GOD IS HIS WORD , HE IS HIS SPIRIT and this is a fact many better fast wake up too .
I truly do understand the Godhead can be a bit complex
and specially at the first can be hard to be understood .
BUT YOU know what i else by grace i understand . IS IF ITS WRITTEN in scripture
DONT TWIST IT , JUST BELEIVE IT . NOW IT says real clear
GOD WAS THE WORD and that the SAME WORD did become flesh . says it real clear .
SO whether or not one understands this fully , DO NOT TWIST IT .
never add too or take from HIS WORDS lets ye be found a LIAR .

 

[Runningman]

Refusal of the TRUTH causes hardness of heart and blindness.
Your unbelief leaves you whereby you cannot SEE
Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.

No Eternal Life apart from the LORD Jesus Christ = like FATHER like SON

But the Father is being called the Only True God. You don't believe that at face value because you can't. You literally cannot believe that because you've been consumed by Trinitarianism. Scripture says that the one who believes in Him who sent Jesus has eternal life. Yes, believe the Father is the only true God is part of the gospel. If you don't believe, it's possible you can come under judgement according to Jesus. The door is not closed David. Please don't shut your ears and harden your heart.

 

[DavidTree]

But the Father is being called the Only True God. You don't believe that at face value because you can't. You literally cannot believe that because you've been consumed by Trinitarianism. Scripture says that the one who believes in Him who sent Jesus has eternal life. Yes, believe the Father is the only true God is part of the gospel. If you don't believe, it's possible you can come under judgement according to Jesus. The door is not closed David. Please don't shut your ears and harden your heart.

"the Father is being called the Only True God" = absolutely True and GRACE & TRUTH is in JESUS CHRIST.

GRACE & TRUTH came down to earth from Above, from the Bosom of the FATHER, from HIMSELF to us - God with us.

Bless the Lord, O my soul;
And all that is within me, bless His holy name!
2Bless the Lord, O my soul,
And forget not all His benefits:
3Who forgives all your iniquities,
Who heals all your diseases,
4Who redeems your life from destruction,
Who crowns you with lovingkindness and tender mercies,
5Who satisfies your mouth with good things,
So that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s.
6The Lord executes righteousness
And justice for all who are oppressed.
7He made known His ways to Moses,
His acts to the children of Israel.
8The Lord is merciful and gracious,
Slow to anger, and abounding in mercy.
9He will not always strive with us,
Nor will He keep His anger forever.
10He has not dealt with us according to our sins,
Nor punished us according to our iniquities.
11For as the heavens are high above the earth,
So great is His mercy toward those who fear Him;
12As far as the east is from the west,
So far has He removed our transgressions from us.

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

Refusal of the TRUTH causes hardness of heart and blindness.
Your unbelief leaves you whereby you cannot SEE
Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.

No Eternal Life apart from the LORD Jesus Christ = like FATHER like SON

Remember the saying LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar .
IF THE ALPHA and OMEGA said something , we ought as children to beleive it and not rather to heed men who twist it .
Now feel free to correct me if you THINK i be in error ,
but DIDNT GOD CALL HIMSELF the alpha and omega , the first and the last .
DIDNT JESUS say the same FROM HEAVEN ABOUT HIMSELF .
CAN GOD LIE . YEAH DIDNT THINK SO . this generation better watch OUT lest it ends up
hearing words that say , I NEVER KNEW YOU , ye followed men who twisted and omitted my words
and ye did so UNTO YOUR OWN DESTRUCTION .
And despised the many who had brought HIS words , His beautiful words of correction and of truth .
Many are headed right down a real broad inclusive and diverse path
that all on that path surely DO NOT BELEIVE GOD , for they beleive not HIS words .
For this reason was i born and for this reason came i into the world
to testify of TRUTH all who are of the truth hear my voice .
YE hear not my words , As i said ye are not my sheep . people better start examining real fast
exactly what version of JESUS of GOD of the Gospel they be following . mANY follow men
who have created a god and a jesus in the image of humanity
and follow not THE GOD THE JESUS CHRIST who created man in HIS own image . They are working much destructoin upon themselves
in these latter days . Time for us all to pick up the bible and simply as a wee tiny child , JUST BELIEVE WHAT IS WRITTEN
and the understanding will come in time .

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

Refusal of the TRUTH causes hardness of heart and blindness.
Your unbelief leaves you whereby you cannot SEE
Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.

No Eternal Life apart from the LORD Jesus Christ = like FATHER like SON

God desires for us to worship HIM in SPIRIT and IN TRUTH .
HE is SPIRIT , HE IS TRUTH
and now a lovely reminder , we worship GOD through the SON .
I will send you a comforter . the SPIRIT OF TRUTH . I will COME TO YOU . ME AND MY FATHER will make our abode upon that man .

 

[DavidTree]

Remember the saying LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar .
IF THE ALPHA and OMEGA said something , we ought as children to beleive it and not rather to heed men who twist it .
Now feel free to correct me if you THINK i be in error ,
but DIDNT GOD CALL HIMSELF the alpha and omega , the first and the last .
DIDNT JESUS say the same FROM HEAVEN ABOUT HIMSELF .
CAN GOD LIE . YEAH DIDNT THINK SO . this generation better watch OUT lest it ends up
hearing words that say , I NEVER KNEW YOU , ye followed men who twisted and omitted my words
and ye did so UNTO YOUR OWN DESTRUCTION .
And despised the many who had brought HIS words , His beautiful words of correction and of truth .
Many are headed right down a real broad inclusive and diverse path
that all on that path surely DO NOT BELEIVE GOD , for they beleive not HIS words .
For this reason was i born and for this reason came i into the world
to testify of TRUTH all who are of the truth hear my voice .
YE hear not my words , As i said ye are not my sheep . people better start examining real fast
exactly what version of JESUS of GOD of the Gospel they be following . mANY follow men
who have created a god and a jesus in the image of humanity
and follow not THE GOD THE JESUS CHRIST who created man in HIS own image . They are working much destructoin upon themselves
in these latter days . Time for us all to pick up the bible and simply as a wee tiny child , JUST BELIEVE WHAT IS WRITTEN
and the understanding will come in time .

“Listen to Me, O Jacob,
And Israel, My called:
I am He, I am the First,
I am also the Last. - Isaiah 48:12
To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,”

@Runningman, will listen to the LORD or will you continue in unbelief???

 

[DavidTree]

God desires for us to worship HIM in SPIRIT and IN TRUTH .
HE is SPIRIT , HE IS TRUTH
and now a lovely reminder , we worship GOD through the SON .
I will send you a comforter . the SPIRIT OF TRUTH . I will COME TO YOU . ME AND MY FATHER will make our abode upon that man .

FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT = THREE are ONE GOD

No human mind can understand this - AND - we are called to believe every word that comes from the Mouth of God

Faith in the Word that was God always precedes understanding.

Hebrews 11: 3 = By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.

 

[Runningman]

"the Father is being called the Only True God" = absolutely True and GRACE & TRUTH is in JESUS CHRIST.

GRACE & TRUTH came down to earth from Above, from the Bosom of the FATHER, from HIMSELF to us - God with us.

Bless the Lord, O my soul;
And all that is within me, bless His holy name!
2Bless the Lord, O my soul,
And forget not all His benefits:
3Who forgives all your iniquities,
Who heals all your diseases,
4Who redeems your life from destruction,
Who crowns you with lovingkindness and tender mercies,
5Who satisfies your mouth with good things,
So that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s.
6The Lord executes righteousness
And justice for all who are oppressed.
7He made known His ways to Moses,
His acts to the children of Israel.
8The Lord is merciful and gracious,
Slow to anger, and abounding in mercy.
9He will not always strive with us,
Nor will He keep His anger forever.
10He has not dealt with us according to our sins,
Nor punished us according to our iniquities.
11For as the heavens are high above the earth,
So great is His mercy toward those who fear Him;
12As far as the east is from the west,
So far has He removed our transgressions from us.

Finally some reason. The Father being the only true God means He is exclusively God and Jesus isn't. It can't get any more direct than this. Do you really believe what it says at Face Value? Meaning, do you believe it for what it plainly says?

 

[Marvelloustime]

God desires for us to worship HIM in SPIRIT and IN TRUTH .
HE is SPIRIT , HE IS TRUTH
and now a lovely reminder , we worship GOD through the SON .
I will send you a comforter . the SPIRIT OF TRUTH . I will COME TO YOU . ME AND MY FATHER will make our abode upon that man .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[DavidTree]

Finally some reason. The Father being the only true God means He is exclusively God and Jesus isn't. It can't get any more direct than this. Do you really believe what it says at Face Value? Meaning, do you believe it for what it plainly says?

Illogical and thus a false conclusion.

Since the FATHER is GOD, so also is His ONLY Begotten SON

the flesh Body of JESUS is not God,

Repeat - the flesh body is not God

God is INSIDE the flesh body of JESUS = Hebrews 10:5
Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:

“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.
In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin
You had no pleasure.
Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—
In the volume of the book it is written of Me—
To do Your will, O God.’ ”


Attention @Runningman - Do you really believe what it says at Face Value? Meaning, do you believe it for what it plainly says?

 

[Marvelloustime]

Remember the saying LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar .
IF THE ALPHA and OMEGA said something , we ought as children to beleive it and not rather to heed men who twist it .
Now feel free to correct me if you THINK i be in error ,
but DIDNT GOD CALL HIMSELF the alpha and omega , the first and the last .
DIDNT JESUS say the same FROM HEAVEN ABOUT HIMSELF .
CAN GOD LIE . YEAH DIDNT THINK SO . this generation better watch OUT lest it ends up
hearing words that say , I NEVER KNEW YOU , ye followed men who twisted and omitted my words
and ye did so UNTO YOUR OWN DESTRUCTION .
And despised the many who had brought HIS words , His beautiful words of correction and of truth .
Many are headed right down a real broad inclusive and diverse path
that all on that path surely DO NOT BELEIVE GOD , for they beleive not HIS words .
For this reason was i born and for this reason came i into the world
to testify of TRUTH all who are of the truth hear my voice .
YE hear not my words , As i said ye are not my sheep . people better start examining real fast
exactly what version of JESUS of GOD of the Gospel they be following . mANY follow men
who have created a god and a jesus in the image of humanity
and follow not THE GOD THE JESUS CHRIST who created man in HIS own image . They are working much destructoin upon themselves
in these latter days . Time for us all to pick up the bible and simply as a wee tiny child , JUST BELIEVE WHAT IS WRITTEN
and the understanding will come in time .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[Marvelloustime]

Remember the saying LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar .
IF THE ALPHA and OMEGA said something , we ought as children to beleive it and not rather to heed men who twist it .
Now feel free to correct me if you THINK i be in error ,
but DIDNT GOD CALL HIMSELF the alpha and omega , the first and the last .
DIDNT JESUS say the same FROM HEAVEN ABOUT HIMSELF .
CAN GOD LIE . YEAH DIDNT THINK SO . this generation better watch OUT lest it ends up
hearing words that say , I NEVER KNEW YOU , ye followed men who twisted and omitted my words
and ye did so UNTO YOUR OWN DESTRUCTION .
And despised the many who had brought HIS words , His beautiful words of correction and of truth .
Many are headed right down a real broad inclusive and diverse path
that all on that path surely DO NOT BELEIVE GOD , for they beleive not HIS words .
For this reason was i born and for this reason came i into the world
to testify of TRUTH all who are of the truth hear my voice .
YE hear not my words , As i said ye are not my sheep . people better start examining real fast
exactly what version of JESUS of GOD of the Gospel they be following . mANY follow men
who have created a god and a jesus in the image of humanity
and follow not THE GOD THE JESUS CHRIST who created man in HIS own image . They are working much destructoin upon themselves
in these latter days . Time for us all to pick up the bible and simply as a wee tiny child , JUST BELIEVE WHAT IS WRITTEN
and the understanding will come in time .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[Runningman]

Illogical and thus a false conclusion.

Since the FATHER is GOD, so also is His ONLY Begotten SON

the flesh Body of JESUS is not God,

Repeat - the flesh body is not God

God is INSIDE the flesh body of JESUS = Hebrews 10:5
Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:

“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.
In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin
You had no pleasure.
Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—
In the volume of the book it is written of Me—
To do Your will, O God.’ ”


Attention @Runningman - Do you really believe what it says at Face Value? Meaning, do you believe it for what it plainly says?

Those mean something you haven't yet considered. We should not understand the Bible around concepts that it does not explicitly talk about, but rather around what is explicit. You are looking at it from the position of putting the cart in front of the horse. You simply need to reverse it. Begin with the fact about who the only God is in Scripture. After that, you will be able to understand the rest.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Look real closely at the last sentence you wrote .
NO eternal life apart from the LORD JESUS CHRIST .
HE IS ETERNAL LIFE . HE IS LIFE ITSELF . Who else is LIFE ITSELF . GOD IS .
GOD IS HIS WORD , HE IS HIS SPIRIT and this is a fact many better fast wake up too .
I truly do understand the Godhead can be a bit complex
and specially at the first can be hard to be understood .
BUT YOU know what i else by grace i understand . IS IF ITS WRITTEN in scripture
DONT TWIST IT , JUST BELEIVE IT . NOW IT says real clear
GOD WAS THE WORD and that the SAME WORD did become flesh . says it real clear .
SO whether or not one understands this fully , DO NOT TWIST IT .
never add too or take from HIS WORDS lets ye be found a LIAR .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[Marvelloustime]

no angel dared to ever say what CHRIST Did .
no man upon earth had ever claimed such things .
I am THE WAY , THE TRUTH , And THE LIFE .
I am the RESSURECTION . Not just saying He knew truth , or had life , BUT IS TRUTH AND IS LIFE .
Show me where one angel , one saint , one prophet ever said such a thing .
That would for sure have sounded blasphemous to many . JUST who do you MAKE yourself ..........
You aint even fifty years old and yet you have seen abraham .
Not only did Jesus said Oh i seen him , BUT BEFORE ABRAHAM EVEN WAS I AM .
that is one bold statment . The prophets are dead , abraham is dead .........................
Look at his speech . And when we do remember this
FOR this reason was i born and for this cause came i into the world
to TESTIFY of THE TRUTH
all who are of the Truth hear my voice . HIS WORDS are truth
and yet many cannot see the truth within His own words .
JESUS is not a man that he can lie .
JESUS CHRIST the same YESTERDAY , TODAY and forever .
WHO is the one constant that cannot deny Himself , that cannot change His own nature
but simply remains ...............
THE WORD was WITH GOD and GOD IS THE WORD . its about as simple as that .
And unless folks want to beleive in pantheism , which be a lie
GOD is NOT THE CREATED . BUT the creator .
GOD created man from the dirt
But later one would come in the form of man , WHO HAD NO BEGINNING
who was not created but had created all . folks are in trouble in these last hours
and many have no idea the removal and seperation of GOD and of CHRIST was A PLANNED EVENT .
in order to put THE CHRIST on the same level as every other prophet in any other religoin
SO as to eventually mold them as one . A LIE has BEEN SENT and many have loved this lie .
My advice to one and to all is , BIBLE UP and if it is written DONT TWIST IT , JUST BELIEVE IT .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[Marvelloustime]

GOD is LIGHT and in him is no darkness .
And the LORD JESUS is the LIGHT THEREOF
GOD IS TRUTH
Jesus , I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE .
GOD is His SPIRIT , HE IS HIS WORD .
He whom GOD the Father rose from the dead .
I have power to lay it down and i have power to Raise it up .
LOOK at the langauge .
I am ALPHA and omega , first and the last and besides me THERE IS NO other god .
I am the first and the last , which was dead but now alive ................
Shew us the Father .
HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN WITH YOU ..............and yet ye say shew us the Father
IF ye have seen me You have SEEN the FATHER .
And i john saw no temple , for GOD AND THE LAMB are the temple thereof .........
and the GLORY of GOD did lighten it . And the lamb is the Glory of God .
HE is his own essence, HE is His word , HE is His spirit and He created all that was and is .......
And now a lovely reminder written a long , long time ago .
He had come to die on a cross made of wood
and yet had made the hill upon which IT STOOD .
TO THE TRENCHES one and all .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[DavidTree]

Those mean something you haven't yet considered. We should not understand the Bible around concepts that it does not explicitly talk about, but rather around what is explicit. You are looking at it from the position of putting the cart in front of the horse. You simply need to reverse it. Begin with the fact about who the only God is in Scripture. After that, you will be able to understand the rest.

Your faith is in your own conjectures - THINK about this and how it is leading you away from God and to Judgment.

The only True GOD is PLURAL and this PLURALITY is FIRST Spoken in Genesis chapter 1

In the beginning
בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית (bə·rê·šîṯ)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7225: 1) first, beginning, best, chief 1a) beginning 1b) first 1c) chief 1d) choice part

God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God