Rapture Ready

[DavidTree]

Not foolishness-seeking to rightly divide the Scriptures and not impose MY opinions upon the text-right?

“HE CAME UNTO HIS OWN”
“HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT”
“AS MANY AS RECEIVED HIM”
CHRIST CAME UNTO HIS OWN

Who is His own? Christians?


“He came unto His own, and His own received Him not. But as many as received Him, to
them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name.” John
1:11 and 12.

The study of John 1:11 and 12 has proved so interesting and helpful to me that I want to
share with others some of the blessings I have received in this study.
If you are a child of God, of course you know the truth of Galatians 3:26:

“FOR YE ARE ALL THE CHILDREN OF GOD BY FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS.”

This is the only way that any child of Adam can become a child of God. The same
Apostle John, who was directed by the Holy Spirit to write the verses which we are considering,
also wrote:

“Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God.” “He that hath the Son hath
life; he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.” I John 5:1 and 12.

He also wrote II John 9:
“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He
that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.”

It was Christ Himself Who spoke the words of John 5:23 and John 14:6
“That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth
not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent Him.”

Again note these words of the Lord Jesus:
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the
Father, but by Me.”

Then the Holy Spirit directed the Apostle Peter to write I Peter 3:18:
“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the Just for the unjust, that He might bring us
to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit.”

All of these Divine statements help us to understand John 1:12:
“But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even
to them that believe on His name.”

Only receivers and believers become God’s children or sons. There is positively no way
to Divine sonship except through and by the Lord Jesus Christ, faith in the Son of God and His
once for-all sacrifice on the cross. Unbelievers are by nature the children of wrath. Ephesians 2:1
to 3.

Whether we call the believer’s relationship. to God, “Divine sonship,” “regeneration,”
“redemption,” “reconciliation,” “salvation,” or “membership in Christ’s Church,” this
relationship is established always and only by faith in the true Christ of the Bible and because of
the application of the precious blood of this eternal Son of God.

This Divine process is clearly stated in Colossians 1:20 and 21, Ephesians 1:6 and 7 and

Ephesians 2:8 to 10:
“And, having made peace through the blood of His cross, by Him to reconcile all things
unto Himself; by Him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. And you, that
were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath He
reconciled.”

“To the praise of the glory of His grace, wherein He made us accepted in the Beloved, In
Whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of
His grace.”

“For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are His workmanship created in Christ Jesus
unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”
AS MANY AS RECEIVED HIM

“As many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to
them that believe on His name.” John 1:12.

This should all be very clear to Gentiles and Jews during this period of grace in which we
are so extremely fortunate to live. But this economy and age of grace did not begin until after
“His own received Him not.”

Note carefully the message of Acts 2:22 and 23:
“Ye men, of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among
you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by Him in the midst of you, as ye
yourselves also know; Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel, and foreknowledge of
God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain.”

Jesus of Nazareth was a Man approved of God; that is, Jesus was put on display by God.
Where and for whom? In the land of the Jews; for Israel.

Some years after the Lord Jesus was
rejected by Israel, crucified, buried, raised, and ascended, He said to a converted Jew:

“Depart; for I will send thee far hence to the Gentiles.” Acts 22:21.

Then that converted Jew wrote:
“The grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men.” Titus 2:11.

Then note his message in I Timothy 2:3 to 6:
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men
to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator
between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified
in due time. Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and
lie not, a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.”

All of this is quite different from the statements of Jesus of Nazareth in the land of the
Jews, in the midst of Israel. Note the Lord’s instructions:

“THESE TWELVE JESUS SENT FORTH, AND COMMANDED THEM, SAYING,
GO NOT INTO THE WAY OF THE GENTILES, AND INTO ANY CITY OF THE
SAMARITANS ENTER YE NOT: BUT GO RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE
HOUSE OF ISRAEL.” “BUT WHEN THEY PERSECUTE YOU IN THIS CITY, FLEE YE
INTO ANOTHER: FOR VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, YE SHALL NOT HAVE GONE OVER
THE CITIES OF ISRAEL, TILL THE SON OF MAN BE COME.” Matthew 10:5, 6 and 23.

Read this plain, positive statement of Christ:

“BUT HE ANSWERED AND SAID, I AM NOT SENT BUT UNTO THE LOST
SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.” “BUT HE ANSWERED AND SAID, IT IS NOT
MEET TO TAKE THE CHILDREN’S BREAD, AND CAST IT TO DOGS.” Matthew 15:24
and 26.

Christ came unto His own. While on earth, as Jesus of Nazareth, He did not say to His
twelve apostles, “depart, for I will send thee far hence to the Gentiles.” No, He positively
commanded them, “go not into the way of the Gentiles.” “You are to go to the cities of Israel.”
“Go to the lost sheep of Israel.” “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of Israel.”
So while Christ was on earth it certainly was not true that the grace of God that bringeth
salvation hath appeared to all men.”

Not being facetious with you @DavidTree

J.

God wants us (those in MESSIAH) to KNOW about His Truth beginning in GENESIS and thru Moses and the Prophets.

It is essential, when studying God's words to know who HE is speaking to and for what PURPOSES(s).

Start in GENESIS where the LORD Prophesied = "
So the Lord God said to the serpent:

“Because you have done this,
You are cursed more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you shall go,
And you shall eat dust
All the days of your life.
15And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.”

John 1:10-13
He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

A New Covenant for "every tribe tongue and nation" = "For God so loved the world."

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!
See! Your house is left to you desolate; for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say,
‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ” - Matthew 23:37-39

ALL the world has it's eyes on Israel in the Middle East = so should you.

 

[Johann]

If you are in Christ, then the LORD is speaking to you in His word.

You use social media that informs you of what is going on in Israel.

The CENTER POINT of the LORD'S Return is where?

I use Scriptures and context to see if Messiah is talking to His disciples-Yehudi-Goyim.

The Olivet Discourse

The Gospel of Matthew captures an important discussion that Jesus had with His disciples on the Mount of Olives, the multi-summit limestone ridge just east of the Old City of Jerusalem across from the Kidron Valley. This discussion, or sermon, is commonly referred to as the “Olivet Discourse.” The central topic was the end of the world as they knew it. Sparking the discourse was the disciples’ question to Jesus, “When will this [destruction of the temple] happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” (Matthew 24:3).

Jesus then begins to discuss His return on that day. He gives this description: “As lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man” (Matthew 24:23–27). Jesus is making clear that His return will be unlike that of any mere mortal—He will come with speed, brightness, and power, and the whole earth will see Him (see verse 30).

What will Jesus do when He returns?

Elsewhere in Scripture, we find other clues as to where Jesus will return. The first piece of business for Jesus upon His return will be to deal with those assembled to defeat Israel. Zechariah 14:2 tells us, “I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked.” Revelation 16:14 and 16 tells us that “the battle on the great day of God Almighty” will be in “the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.” The exact location of Armageddon is unclear, as there is no single mountain called “Meggido.” However, interpretation of the term leads to “hill” and most likely the hill country surrounding the plain of Meggido, which is about sixty miles north of Jerusalem.

As soon as Jesus returns to earth, He sets out to defeat this confederation of nations seeking to eliminate His beloved Israel. As mentioned in Zechariah 14, the reason that God draws them together in one place is so He can battle them all at once, a strategy any commanding officer would appreciate. This “battle” isn’t much of a struggle, as Revelation 19:21 describes the enemies of God being “killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse”—Jesus wins the victory by simply speaking. Game, set, match.

Where exactly will Jesus stand?

After His monumental victory over the attacking nations, Jesus will stand on a specific location. Zechariah 14:4 states, “On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.” The Mount of Olives is a fitting place for Jesus to return. Not only will He be standing on the very mountain where He preached the Olivet Discourse to His disciples, but that is also the place where He ascended into heaven after His resurrection (Acts 1:1–10).

Where will Jesus return? | GotQuestions.org

Where will Jesus return? Where will Jesus come back? Does the Bible give the precise location where Jesus will return?

www.gotquestions.org

While you are a scholar in eschatology I will work out MY own salvation with fear and trembling.
Shalom.
J.

 

[Johann]

It is essential, when studying God's words to know who HE is speaking to and for what PURPOSES(s).

It shall help thee greatly to understand Scripture-
If thou mark not only WHAT is spoken
Or written
But of whom
And TO whom
With WHAT words
At WHAT TIME
Where
TO what intent
With WHAT circumstances
Considering what goeth BEFORE
And what followeth AFTER

Miles Coverdale-died in 1569.

Shalom
J.

 

[DavidTree]

I use Scriptures and context to see if Messiah is talking to His disciples-Yehudi-Goyim.

The Olivet Discourse

The Gospel of Matthew captures an important discussion that Jesus had with His disciples on the Mount of Olives, the multi-summit limestone ridge just east of the Old City of Jerusalem across from the Kidron Valley. This discussion, or sermon, is commonly referred to as the “Olivet Discourse.” The central topic was the end of the world as they knew it. Sparking the discourse was the disciples’ question to Jesus, “When will this [destruction of the temple] happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” (Matthew 24:3).

Jesus then begins to discuss His return on that day. He gives this description: “As lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man” (Matthew 24:23–27). Jesus is making clear that His return will be unlike that of any mere mortal—He will come with speed, brightness, and power, and the whole earth will see Him (see verse 30).

What will Jesus do when He returns?

Elsewhere in Scripture, we find other clues as to where Jesus will return. The first piece of business for Jesus upon His return will be to deal with those assembled to defeat Israel. Zechariah 14:2 tells us, “I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked.” Revelation 16:14 and 16 tells us that “the battle on the great day of God Almighty” will be in “the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.” The exact location of Armageddon is unclear, as there is no single mountain called “Meggido.” However, interpretation of the term leads to “hill” and most likely the hill country surrounding the plain of Meggido, which is about sixty miles north of Jerusalem.

As soon as Jesus returns to earth, He sets out to defeat this confederation of nations seeking to eliminate His beloved Israel. As mentioned in Zechariah 14, the reason that God draws them together in one place is so He can battle them all at once, a strategy any commanding officer would appreciate. This “battle” isn’t much of a struggle, as Revelation 19:21 describes the enemies of God being “killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse”—Jesus wins the victory by simply speaking. Game, set, match.

Where exactly will Jesus stand?

After His monumental victory over the attacking nations, Jesus will stand on a specific location. Zechariah 14:4 states, “On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.” The Mount of Olives is a fitting place for Jesus to return. Not only will He be standing on the very mountain where He preached the Olivet Discourse to His disciples, but that is also the place where He ascended into heaven after His resurrection (Acts 1:1–10).

Where will Jesus return? | GotQuestions.org

Where will Jesus return? Where will Jesus come back? Does the Bible give the precise location where Jesus will return?

www.gotquestions.org

While you are a scholar in eschatology I will work out MY own salvation with fear and trembling.
Shalom.
J.

Now we are back on track = together in Christ


The FIRST part of GOD"S Business is the Resurrection of the His Elect whose names are written in Heaven.

Daniel 12:1-3
“Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands guard over the sons of your people, will arise. And there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time; and at that time your people, everyone who is found written in the book,
will be rescued. “Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.

There is ONLY One BOOK of LIFE where BOTH Jew & Gentile names are written. = Luke 10:20
Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”

Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before [c]God, and books were opened.
And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[DavidTree]

It shall help thee greatly to understand Scripture-
If thou mark not only WHAT is spoken
Or written
But of whom
And TO whom
With WHAT words
At WHAT TIME
Where
TO what intent
With WHAT circumstances
Considering what goeth BEFORE
And what followeth AFTER

Miles Coverdale-died in 1569.

Shalom
J.

YES, i have that as well since the HOLY SPIRIT is the TIME KEEPER of TRUTH

Having the Holy Spirit as your Guide when studying Scripture is absolutely essential.

John 14:15-18
If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

Speaking of Israel, the Jewish People and the MESSIAH of Israel, and Matthew ch24 HE says this:

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you;
and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”
Amen.

 

[Johann]

Now we are back on track = together in Christ

Not so fast @DavidTree -when I agree with you "we are back on track"-when there is disagreement "we are off the derech"

Too many disagreements between the brethren and I want no part of that.
J.

 

[Johann]

John 14:15-18
If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

To whom was Messiah speaking?

the Comforter -- (Joh_14:16; Joh_13:13) was a special promise to the apostles alone, not to all of the disciples, nor for the world in general--only the apostles.

you -- the apostles; Joh_16:7; Act_10:44

for ever -- all through their ministry.

Comforter. Greek. parakletos, rendered "Advocate" in 1Jn_2:1. Parakletos and the Latin Advocatus both mean one called to the side of another for help or counsel. The word is only found in John: here; Joh_14:26; Joh_15:26; Joh_16:7 and 1Jn_2:1. So we have one Paraclete (the Holy Spirit) as here, and another with the Father. The Rabbinical writings often refer to the Messiah under the title Menahem (= Comforter), and speak of His days as the days of consolation. Compare Luk_2:25. See Dr. John Lightfoot's Works, vol. xii, p. 384.

"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments"

This is a THIRD CLASS CONDITIONAL SENTENCE which speaks of potential action. Love for God in Christ is expressed by obedience. "Keep" is a FUTURE ACTIVE INDICATIVE used as a PRESENT IMPERATIVE (Friberg, Analytical Greek New Testament, p. 337).

Obedience is extremely important (cf. John 8:51; 14:21,23-24; 15:10; 1 John 2:3-5; 3:22,24; 5:3; 2 John 6; Luke 6:46). John 14:21, 23, and 24 also emphasize this same truth. Obedience is evidence of true conversion (cf. James and 1 John).

The NKJV has the IMPERATIVE "keep My commandments," which is supported by MSS A, D, W, the Vulgate, and many Church Fathers. The UBS4 gives the FUTURE ACTIVE INDICATIVE a "C" rating (difficulty in deciding), which is supported by MSS B, L, and the Copitc Version, as well as several Church Fathers.

14:16 "He will give you"

NASB, NKJV, TEV   "another Helper"
NRSV, NET   "another Advocate"
NJB   "another Paraclete"
REB   "another to be your advocate"
Peshitta   "another Comforter"
The term "another" translates a Greek term (allos) that means "another of the same kind." The Holy Spirit has been called "the other Jesus" (G. Campbell Morgan, see Special Topic below).

The second term is the Greek term "paraklētos" which is used of Jesus in 1 John 2:1 (as intercessor) and of the Holy Spirit in John 14:26 and 16:7-14. Its etymology is "one called alongside to help," in a legal sense. Therefore, the term "Advocate" accurately translates this word. A form of this same Greek root, "comfort" (parakalēo), is used of the Father in 2 Cor. 1:3-11.

The translation of the NOUN "advocate" (paraklētos) comes from the Roman legal system. The translation "Comforter" was first used by Wycliffe and reflects the use of the VERB form (parakaleō) in the Septuagint (i.e., 2 Sam. 10:4; 1 Chr. 19:3; Job 16:2; Ps. 69:20;Eccl. 4:1; Isa. 35:4). It may be the ANTONYM of Satan (the accuser).

Both Philo and Josephus used the word in the sense of "intercessor" or "advisor."



"that He may be with you forever"
Three different PREPOSITIONS are used in reference to the Holy Spirit.

"meta" (John 14:16), "with"
"para" (John 14:17), "by the side"
"en" (John 14:17), "in"

Notice the Holy Spirit is with us, by us, and within us. It is His job to manifest the life of Jesus in believers. He will stay with them until the end of the age (cf. John 14:18; Matt. 28:20).

Notice the Spirit is called "He."

This implies the Spirit is personal. Often in KJV the Spirit is addressed by "it," but this is because the term "spirit" in Greek is NEUTER (cf. John 14:17,26; 15:26). He is the third person of the Trinity ). The term Trinity is not a biblical term, but if Jesus is divine and the Spirit is a person, then some kind of tri-unity is involved. God is one divine essence but three permanent, personal manifestations cf. Matt. 3:16-17; 28:19; Acts 2:33-34; Rom. 8:9-10; 1 Cor. 12:4-6; 2 Cor. 1:21-22; 13:14; Eph. 1:3-14; 2:18; 4:4-6; Titus 3:4-6; 1 Pet. 1:2).



14:17 "the Spirit of truth" "Truth" here has the same connotation as John 14:6 (cf. John 15:26; 16:13; 1 John 4:6). He is the opposite of Satan, the father of lies (cf. John 8:44).



"whom"
"This" is NEUTER to agree with the term "spirit" (pneuma). However, elsewhere in Greek a MASCULINE PRONOUN is used (cf. John 14:26; 15:26; 16:7,8,13,14). The Holy Spirit is really not male or female; He is spirit. It is important to remember that He is also a distinct personality



"the world cannot receive"

The Holy Spirit can only be appropriated by those who have faith in Christ (cf. John 1:10-12). He provides everything the believer needs (cf. Rom. 8:1-11). The unbelieving world (kosmos) cannot understand or appreciate spiritual things (cf. 1 Cor. 2:14; 2 Cor. 4:4).



"know. . .know"

This is probably another double entendre of John. The Hebrew connotation would be intimate, personal relationship (cf. Gen. 4:1; Jer. 1:5). The Greek connotation would be knowledge. The gospel is both personal and cognitive.

"He abides with you"
Abiding is a key concept in John's writings (i.e., John 15). The Father abides in the Son, the Spirit abides in believers, and believers abide in the Son. This abiding is PRESENT TENSE, not an isolated decision or emotional response.
Utley.

J.

 

[DavidTree]

Not so fast @DavidTree -when I agree with you "we are back on track"-when there is disagreement "we are off the derech"

Too many disagreements between the brethren and I want no part of that.
J.

Johann i never said what you posted here.

When we are BOTH looking at the same scriptures and we are not adding to them or taking away from them = that means we are back on track together = let God's words speak for Itself and we follow.

Disagreements always comes from religious viewpoint such as 'pre-trib'

God never said 'pre-trib' rapture but men did and everyone disregarded God's words on it.

Daniel 12:1-3 who did the LORD say this is to, in His Gospel and His Revelation?

 

[DavidTree]

To whom was Messiah speaking?

the Comforter --

you -- the apostles; Joh_16:7; Act_10:44

for ever -- all through their ministry.

Comforter. Greek. parakletos, rendered "Advocate" in 1Jn_2:1. Parakletos and the Latin Advocatus both mean one called to the side of another for help or counsel. The word is only found in John: here; Joh_14:26; Joh_15:26; Joh_16:7 and 1Jn_2:1. So we have one Paraclete (the Holy Spirit) as here, and another with the Father. The Rabbinical writings often refer to the Messiah under the title Menahem (= Comforter), and speak of His days as the days of consolation. Compare Luk_2:25. See Dr. John Lightfoot's Works, vol. xii, p. 384.

"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments"

This is a THIRD CLASS CONDITIONAL SENTENCE which speaks of potential action. Love for God in Christ is expressed by obedience. "Keep" is a FUTURE ACTIVE INDICATIVE used as a PRESENT IMPERATIVE (Friberg, Analytical Greek New Testament, p. 337).

Obedience is extremely important (cf. John 8:51; 14:21,23-24; 15:10; 1 John 2:3-5; 3:22,24; 5:3; 2 John 6; Luke 6:46). John 14:21, 23, and 24 also emphasize this same truth. Obedience is evidence of true conversion (cf. James and 1 John).

The NKJV has the IMPERATIVE "keep My commandments," which is supported by MSS A, D, W, the Vulgate, and many Church Fathers. The UBS4 gives the FUTURE ACTIVE INDICATIVE a "C" rating (difficulty in deciding), which is supported by MSS B, L, and the Copitc Version, as well as several Church Fathers.

14:16 "He will give you"

NASB, NKJV, TEV   "another Helper"
NRSV, NET   "another Advocate"
NJB   "another Paraclete"
REB   "another to be your advocate"
Peshitta   "another Comforter"
The term "another" translates a Greek term (allos) that means "another of the same kind." The Holy Spirit has been called "the other Jesus" (G. Campbell Morgan, see Special Topic below).

The second term is the Greek term "paraklētos" which is used of Jesus in 1 John 2:1 (as intercessor) and of the Holy Spirit in John 14:26 and 16:7-14. Its etymology is "one called alongside to help," in a legal sense. Therefore, the term "Advocate" accurately translates this word. A form of this same Greek root, "comfort" (parakalēo), is used of the Father in 2 Cor. 1:3-11.

The translation of the NOUN "advocate" (paraklētos) comes from the Roman legal system. The translation "Comforter" was first used by Wycliffe and reflects the use of the VERB form (parakaleō) in the Septuagint (i.e., 2 Sam. 10:4; 1 Chr. 19:3; Job 16:2; Ps. 69:20;Eccl. 4:1; Isa. 35:4). It may be the ANTONYM of Satan (the accuser).

Both Philo and Josephus used the word in the sense of "intercessor" or "advisor."



"that He may be with you forever"
Three different PREPOSITIONS are used in reference to the Holy Spirit.

"meta" (John 14:16), "with"
"para" (John 14:17), "by the side"
"en" (John 14:17), "in"

Notice the Holy Spirit is with us, by us, and within us. It is His job to manifest the life of Jesus in believers. He will stay with them until the end of the age (cf. John 14:18; Matt. 28:20).

Notice the Spirit is called "He."

This implies the Spirit is personal. Often in KJV the Spirit is addressed by "it," but this is because the term "spirit" in Greek is NEUTER (cf. John 14:17,26; 15:26). He is the third person of the Trinity ). The term Trinity is not a biblical term, but if Jesus is divine and the Spirit is a person, then some kind of tri-unity is involved. God is one divine essence but three permanent, personal manifestations cf. Matt. 3:16-17; 28:19; Acts 2:33-34; Rom. 8:9-10; 1 Cor. 12:4-6; 2 Cor. 1:21-22; 13:14; Eph. 1:3-14; 2:18; 4:4-6; Titus 3:4-6; 1 Pet. 1:2).



14:17 "the Spirit of truth" "Truth" here has the same connotation as John 14:6 (cf. John 15:26; 16:13; 1 John 4:6). He is the opposite of Satan, the father of lies (cf. John 8:44).



"whom"
"This" is NEUTER to agree with the term "spirit" (pneuma). However, elsewhere in Greek a MASCULINE PRONOUN is used (cf. John 14:26; 15:26; 16:7,8,13,14). The Holy Spirit is really not male or female; He is spirit. It is important to remember that He is also a distinct personality



"the world cannot receive"

The Holy Spirit can only be appropriated by those who have faith in Christ (cf. John 1:10-12). He provides everything the believer needs (cf. Rom. 8:1-11). The unbelieving world (kosmos) cannot understand or appreciate spiritual things (cf. 1 Cor. 2:14; 2 Cor. 4:4).



"know. . .know"

This is probably another double entendre of John. The Hebrew connotation would be intimate, personal relationship (cf. Gen. 4:1; Jer. 1:5). The Greek connotation would be knowledge. The gospel is both personal and cognitive.

"He abides with you"
Abiding is a key concept in John's writings (i.e., John 15). The Father abides in the Son, the Spirit abides in believers, and believers abide in the Son. This abiding is PRESENT TENSE, not an isolated decision or emotional response.
Utley.

J.

(Joh_14:16; Joh_13:13) was a special promise to the apostles alone, not to all of the disciples, nor for the world in general--only the apostles.

You just committed a MAJOR FALLACY = a lie against God's words.

 

[DavidTree]

MAJOR Lie = the Comforter -- (Joh_14:16; Joh_13:13) was a special promise to the apostles alone, not to all of the disciples, nor for the world in general--only the apostles.

MAJOR TRUTH = Acts

And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; 5for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” 6Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. 8But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be [c]witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all [a]with one accord in one place. 2And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words. 15For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only [e]the third hour of the day. 16But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:


17‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.
18And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy.
19I will show wonders in heaven above
And signs in the earth beneath:
Blood and fire and vapor of smoke.
20The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.
21And it shall come to pass
That whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Shall be saved.’

While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also.
For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God.

 

[Johann]

Daniel 12:1-3 who did the LORD say this is to, in His Gospel and His Revelation?

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Dan 12:5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
Dan 12:6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Dan 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

 

[DavidTree]

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Dan 12:5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
Dan 12:6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Dan 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

And the LORD carried Daniel 12:1-3 into the GOSPEL.

Can you please find it and post it?

If not i will - just let me know Brother.

 

[Johann]

You just committed a MAJOR FALLACY = a lie against God's words.

I would advise you to refrain from calling me a liar against and in the light of Scriptures @DavidTree as you cannot yet discern between the wood from the tree-at this moment.

You have yet to understand the connection between prophesy and mystery-rightly cutting straight the D'varim of YHVH.

At the moment you are all over the place.
Johann

 

[DavidTree]

I would advise you to refrain from calling me a liar against and in the light of Scriptures @DavidTree as you cannot yet discern between the wood from the tree-at this moment.

You have yet to understand the connection between prophesy and mystery-rightly cutting straight the D'varim of YHVH.

At the moment you are all over the place.
Johann

You are not a liar and i am not calling you a liar.

The statement saying: the Holy Spirit is only for the apostles and not for the disciples or other people" is a MAJOR FALSEHOOD against God's words.

John chapter 4 and Acts and the Apostles Letters rebukes that lie.

Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.”

11The woman said to Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Where then do You get that living water? 12Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?”

13Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, 14but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”


17‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.
18And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy.
19I will show wonders in heaven above
And signs in the earth beneath:
Blood and fire and vapor of smoke.
20The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.
21And it shall come to pass
That whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Shall be saved.’

While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also.
For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God.

 

[DavidTree]

You can say it is an error but please refrain from saying it’s a lie and those who believe it are liars. See rule 2d below

2d. This further includes making false statements or accusations about a member. Do not lie about anyone or call them a liar. Sarcasm is not included under this rule.

Per your request i will refer to the lie of pre-trib rapture as 'error, falsehood, untruth, heresy or heretical and Proverbs 30:5-6

Also, i never did this =

making false statements or accusations about a member. Do not lie about anyone

However, others have been doing this against my words which i post from Scripture.

Which they can do if they choose but there shall be no double standard.

Please examine below, this is how falsehoods occur as the evidence is found in Post #147
the Comforter -- (Joh_14:16; Joh_13:13) "was a special promise to the apostles alone, not to all of the disciples, nor for the world in general--only the apostles."


Make this your Highest Goal on 'BAM'.

These are the things you shall do:
Speak each man the truth to his neighbor;
Give judgment in your gates for truth, justice, and peace;
Let none of you think evil in your heart against your neighbor;
And do not love a false oath.
For all these are things that I hate,’
Says the Lord.” - Zechariah 8:16-17

 

[Johann]

The statement saying: the Holy Spirit is only for the apostles and not for the disciples or other people" is a MAJOR lie against God's words.

We Have the Holy Spirit (14:16–18)
Jesus had a great deal to say about the Holy Spirit in
His Upper Room message, for apart from the help of
the Spirit of God, we cannot live the Christian life as
John 14
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God would have us live it. We must know who the
Holy Spirit is, what He does, and how He does it.
The Holy Spirit is given two special names by our
Lord: “another Comforter” and “the Spirit of truth.”
The Greek word translated “Comforter” is parakl∑tos
and it is used only by John (14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7; 1
John 2:1). It means “called alongside to assist.” The
Holy Spirit does not work instead of us, or in spite of
us, but in us and through us.
Our English word comfort comes from two Latin
words meaning “with strength.” We usually think of
“comfort” as soothing someone, consoling him or her,
and to some extent this is true. But true comfort
strengthens us to face life bravely and keep on going. It
does not rob us of responsibility or make it easy for us
to give up. Some translations call the Holy Spirit “the
Encourager,” and this is a good choice of words.
Parakl∑tos is translated “Advocate” in 1 John 2:1. An
“advocate” is one who represents you at court and
stands at your side to plead your case.
As “the Spirit of Truth,” the Holy Spirit is related to
Jesus, the Truth, and the Word of God, which of itself is
the truth (John 14:6; 17:17). The Spirit inspired the
Word and also illumines the Word so we may understand it. Later on in this message, Jesus will explain the
teaching ministry of the Holy Spirit. Since He is the
“Spirit of truth,” the Holy Spirit cannot lie or be associated with lies. He never leads us to do anything contrary
to the Word of God, for again God’s Word is truth.
If we want the Holy Spirit to work in our lives, we
must seek to glorify Christ, and we must make much
of the Word of God. When you compare Ephesians
5:18—6:9 with Colossians 3:16—4:1, you will see that
both passages describe the same kind of Christian
life—joyful, thankful, and submissive. To be filled with
the Spirit is the same as to be controlled by the Word.
The Spirit of truth uses the Word of truth to guide us
into the will and the work of God.
The Holy Spirit abides in the believer. He is a gift
from the Father in answer to the prayer of the Son.

During His earthly ministry, Jesus had guided,
guarded, and taught His disciples, but now He was
going to leave them. The Spirit of God would come to
them and dwell in them, taking the place of their
Master. Jesus called the Spirit “another Comforter,”
and the Greek word translated “another” means
“another of the same kind.”

See here @DavidTree ^^^^^

Joh 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
manifested your name ... Among the Hebrews and many ancients the "names" were meant to reflect character.
The name of God summarizes everything about Him (cf. Exod. 3:13–15; Isa. 52:6). Manifesting the name of God to people means revealing His essential nature to them. The Eleven had kept God’s word by believing on and following Jesus even though they were not consistently obedient. - Constable.
In later Jewish literature, the name of God became enshrined in the sacred tetragrammaton (Yahweh), so that “the Name” served as a substitute for pronouncing this divine name. - Zondervan Illustrated Bible Backgrounds Commentary:

the men ... ESV "people", NCV, NIV "those"
Does this refer to all those who came to hear Jesus' message of salvation, or a reference to the twelve?

He thinks of the disciples as a body separated from the world (comp. Note on Joh_15:19), and as given to Him by the Father. (Comp. Note on Joh_6:37.)
Thine they were, and thou gavest (better, hast given) them me.—The meaning of these words is that they were morally prepared by the earlier manifestation of God for the fuller manifestation in Christ. They were God’s in more than name, and therefore when Christ was revealed to them, they recognised Him of whom Moses and the prophets did speak. (Comp. Joh_1:37 et seq., and especially Notes on Joh_5:46; Joh_6:37; Joh_8:47.)

out of. Greek. ek. . kept. Greek. tereo. This word is used in these chapters twelve times: Joh_14:15, Joh_14:21, Joh_14:23, Joh_14:24; Joh_15:10, Joh_15:10, Joh_15:20, Joh_15:20; Joh_17:6, Joh_17:11, Joh_17:12, Joh_17:15; nine times in reference to the Word, thrice in reference to the disciples. word. Greek. logos. See Mar_9:32. Three statements are made by the Lord of His disciples, each three times: their relationship to the Word, verses: Joh_17:6, Joh_17:7, Joh_17:8; relationship to the Sent One, verses: Joh_17:8, Joh_17:18, Joh_17:25; relationship to the world, verses: Joh_17:14, Joh_17:14, Joh_17:16.

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The Spirit of God is not
different from the Son of God, for both are God. The
Spirit of God had dwelt with the disciples in the person
of Jesus Christ. Now He would dwell in them.
Of course, the Spirit of God had been on earth
before. He empowered men and women in the Old
Testament to accomplish God’s work. However, during
the Old Testament Age, the Spirit of God would come
on people and then leave them. God’s Spirit departed
from King Saul (1 Sam. 16:14; 18:12), and David,
when confessing his sin, asked that the Spirit not be
taken from him (Ps. 51:11). When the Holy Spirit was
given at Pentecost, He was given to God’s people to
remain with them forever. Even though we may grieve
the Spirit, He will not leave us.

The way we treat the Holy Spirit is the way we treat
the Lord Jesus Christ. The believer’s body is the temple
of the Spirit (1 Cor. 6:19–20), so what he or she does
with that body affects the indwelling Holy Spirit. The
Spirit wrote the Word of God, and the way we treat the
Bible is the way we treat the Spirit of God and the Son
of God.

The world cannot receive the Spirit because the
world lives “by sight” and not by faith. Furthermore, the
world does not know Jesus Christ, and you cannot have
knowledge of the Spirit apart from the Son. The presence of the Spirit in this world is actually an indictment
against the world, for the world rejected Jesus Christ.

The word translated “comfortless” in John 14:18
means “orphans.” We are not alone, abandoned, helpless, and hopeless! Wherever we go, the Spirit is with
us, so why should we feel like orphans? There is no
need to have a troubled heart when you have the very
Spirit of God dwelling within you!

J.

 

[civic]

You just committed a MAJOR FALLACY = a lie against God's words.

The context is Jesus and His disciples and promises to them. Prove otherwise from the context of John 14-16.

They will be guided into all truth and the Holy Spirit will bring to THEM remembrance of everything Jesus taught THEM- not you or me, its a direct promos to THEM.

Don't believe a lie as if that is a promise for you. Its not.

Jesus doesn't lie. They (the Apostles) knew all the truth as they wrote SCRIPTURE.

hope this helps !!

 

[Johann]

The context is Jesus and His disciples and promises to them. Prove otherwise from the context of John 14-16.

I'm going to give you a "like" here brother.
Shalom
J.

 

[civic]

I'm going to give you a "like" here brother.
Shalom
J.

I edited it too.

 

[Johann]

I edited it too.

--whole heartily concur with the edit.
J.