e v e
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Christ is not a man in an ape flesh body ....
He has a Nature belonging to Paradise.
the ape man and this current earth are satanic constructs.
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Even in John 1, Jesus is not God
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He has a Nature belonging to Paradise.
the ape man and this current earth are satanic constructs.
Doug Brents
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No, I am not. The Prophets and the Apostles were the scribes, God is the Author.
Doug Brents
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Read the rest of 1 Cor 8:6, "yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him."
The Father is God, and Jesus is LORD, but LORD is the same as God. There is no difference in authority, glory, power, or respect in which we should hold them. They are ONE God.
e v e
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the Son meant is not in the type body we have here of flesh...
for, the flesh body is not a body made by God
God has a son and His son is a beautiful man and a gorgeous being..
having the nature and Being of Paradise...
and the Son is Deity, which is God's type of nature.. in paradise.
and Christ is the leader of all the sons (=144k attributes)
and the sons once restored will be Restored to His type of nature and will rule with Christ.
Wrangler
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You know this is a Edit by Admin. LORD refers to YHWH and never to his son, who is referred to as lowercase lord.
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Yeah , too much scripture puts Jesus having the same attributes and power as the Father.
You can put the magnifying glass on one or two particular verses but they need to put alongside other verses like 1 co 8.
The reason the KJV added verses emphasising Jesus' diety and equality with the Father is because that is what the rest of scripture was saying. Also it could be argued the additions were not adding, but showing how the Greek was really intended to be.
You can put the magnifying glass on one or two particular verses but they need to put alongside other verses like 1 co 8.
The reason the KJV added verses emphasising Jesus' diety and equality with the Father is because that is what the rest of scripture was saying. Also it could be argued the additions were not adding, but showing how the Greek was really intended to be.
e v e
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luckily God can speak directly to His ones and the corrupt pastors can be left out of the equation.
Wrangler
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I have. You are trying to pretend there is a mult-person God of Scripture. This is untrue. This is why 1 COR 8:6 does not present us with the trinity here, such as there is one God - FS, & HS who are equal in every way, etc.
e v e
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Deity...
poor analogy, since of a material type,
but is not a son here carrying the type of physical nature of his father?
Does this mean they are the same person?
it is the Nature of God, just as the nature here
is of a material type...
God's nature has His signature
and is the nature of Eden before the fall.
that the Son is deity does not mean Our Majesty is not ruling us..
All the sons will be restored to their Deity...which is the original nature made by God
before Adam gave us over to Satan...
Doug Brents
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Yes, Scripture very clearly presents the Father as God, Jesus as God, and the Holy Spirit as God. Each is fully God, and each is distinct from each of the others. Together they are ONE God, but three representations of that ONE God. Some think they are like Ice, Water, and Steam; three forms of the same liquid. I think they are three separate beings that are united as in marriage to the extent that they have one thought, one power, one glory, etc. But either way, they are all three ONE God.
Wrangler
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And the only God. The "clearly" claims about anyone else violate what only true and one mean.
Jesus died. It is a basic fact that trinitarians cannot escape.
Doug Brents
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NO!! The Jesus is also God. The SAME God that the Father is.
Yes, Jesus died! Hallelujah and AMEN!!! If He had not, there would be no salvation possible.
But that does not mean that He is not God. In fact, if He was not God, then His death would be meaningless just as the death of every other man who has ever lived is meaningless in terms of saving the souls of everyone else.
GeneZ
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Jesus Christ... 30AD "To see me is to see the Father.
Wrangler ...2023 AD . "To se me is to see the father of lies"
Enjoy it while to still can
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GeneZ
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Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live;
and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
How did/can being just a man do all that?????????????????????
Come on! "Pretend" something to explain it!
101G
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who is arguing? did you all sang in synagogue on Saturday mornings Psalms 110:1 and 5?
For the "LORD" is the "Lord" in flesh to come. for the term "Lord" in verse 5 bare this out.... look up both definitions.
101G.
GeneZ
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The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet." The LORD will extend your mighty scepter from Zion; you will rule in the midst of your enemies. Your troops will be willing on your day of battle.
The Lord (God) said to my LORD (the Son of God)...............
The Trinity is the chain of command that God goes through to be able to reach us 'on our level.' (John 1:18)
101G
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who said God is a TRINITY? but to what 101G is saying, "Lord" in verse 5 is,
H136 אֲדֹנָי 'Adonay (ad-o-noy') n-m.
1. (meaning) Lord (used as a proper name of God only).
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
[am emphatic form of H113]
KJV: (my) Lord.
well now, how is the "Lord" here in the emphatic form of H113, "My Lord" in verse 1?
101G.
Root(s): H113
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