Data on John 1:1

[brightfame52]

I have had a number of Christians tell me about Romans 7 when I tell them I do not believe Paul taught about a "sin nature" for the Christian. Romans 7 tells us right up at the top of the chapter that Paul is talking to those who are into or know the law. And then the context of the whole chapter is how we can see it's all about Israel and their Law and how they toy with their flesh. What Paul talks about in the seventh chapter of Romans is what occurs to the believer who still thinks the Law applies to them. They end up spiritually dying by the commandment and realize that the commandment does not produce life. The war is with their flesh because they are still believing the Law has power over them. In the eighth chapter of Romans is where it explains how we overcome this whole issue by living in the spirit and being dead to the Law. We cannot live by faith in what Christ has done for us and still think our obedience to written laws are necessary. To do so takes away from the perfect work of Christ and places salvation and righteousness back in our own hands. Romans 8 states "the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin..."

Christians do have a sin nature, the flesh Rom 7, and prior to a New Birth, that's all they have is a sin nature. What can the natural man do about his sin nature ?

 

[synergy]

Christians do have a sin nature, the flesh Rom 7, and prior to a New Birth, that's all they have is a sin nature. What can the natural man do about his sin nature ?

I know! I know!

A calvinist must stay inert, do nothing, and always wait for the zapping.

Did I pass Calvinist Heresies 101?

 

[101G]

I wish you guys knew how to read the Bible because it would make this a lot easier. The context can be picked up in verse 9. Paul is writing about the Jews and the Gentiles and not the Christians...

Romans 3:9
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

ERROR, he is writing to Christians. listen and learn, Romans 1:7 "To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ."

and beside that both Jews and Gentiles was Just before God who obey him. it is the called out one who he was speaking to BOTH was without the Law now.

101G don't wish, KNOW. and it seem you did not KNOW that before Christ both Jews and GENTILES who obeyed God with out the Law was Justified by him. since you want to wish, 101G wish you read and correctly LEARN the bible.... PLEASE.... (smile)...... ok.

101G.