Jesus Christ is the wisdom and creation of God

Runningman

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Scripture teaches that the person Jesus Christ is created because he is the wisdom of God and wisdom was created. Jesus didn't pre-exist as a being, but as wisdom in YHWH the Father's foreknowledge. This is why there are no examples of Jesus pre-existing under any identifiable name in all of Scripture.

1 Corinthians 1
22Jews demand signs and Greeks search for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

Proverbs 8
12I, wisdom, dwell together with prudence,
and I find knowledge and discretion.
22The LORD created me as His first course,
before His works of old.
 
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24but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.


Since Christ is the wisdom of God then He is also the power of God (1 Corinthians 1:24). Since Christ is the power of God means that Christ is eternal (Romans 1:20).
 
Since Christ is the wisdom of God then He is also the power of God (1 Corinthians 1:24). Since Christ is the power of God means that Christ is eternal (Romans 1:20).
Power and wisdom are not a person. They are things. You walked right into that one. My point stands.
 
Proverbs 8
12I, wisdom, dwell together with prudence,
and I find knowledge and discretion.
22The LORD created me as His first course,
before His works of old.

1. If wisdom was created then doesn't that mean prior to God creating wisdom He did not have wisdom?
2. Does it take wisdom in order to create wisdom?
 
Everything that Christ has (attributes), He is.

Simple.
Observe closely that Jesus is called the wisdom and power of God, but not the source of the power, because Jesus is sitting at the right hand of the Power.

Mark 14
62“I am,” said Jesus, “and you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.”
 
Mark 14
62“I am,” said Jesus, “and you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.”


Thanks for bringing up Mark 14:62.

 
1. If wisdom was created then doesn't that mean prior to God creating wisdom He did not have wisdom?
2. Does it take wisdom in order to create wisdom?
Your mixing philosophy with Scripture. God's essential wisdom is uncreated, but what God created, including Jesus, is the kind of wisdom revealed in creation.
 
You're (not your) dodging the questions.

Try again.
This first page has been a blunder for you as usual. Here you are with an uphill battle to prove that a wisdom is a person on page 1. Wisdom is the ability to apply knowledge, experience, and judgment. Not a person. I hope you know that.
 
This is a total train wreck for your false teaching.
No, it's going pretty good for me and Scripture. It explicitly says wisdom was created and that Jesus is wisdom.
God's Name is Holy.
Yes and? The Bible teaches that Jesus is holy and is God's holy one, but never explicitly says his name is holy. Matthew 6:9 explicitly says the name of the Father is hallowed (regarded as holy.) Isaiah 57:15 says that YHWH's name is holy. Catching on yet?
 
Scripture teaches that the person Jesus Christ is created because he is the wisdom of God and wisdom was created. Jesus didn't pre-exist as a being, but as wisdom in YHWH the Father's foreknowledge. This is why there are no examples of Jesus pre-existing under any identifiable name in all of Scripture.

1 Corinthians 1
22Jews demand signs and Greeks search for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

Proverbs 8
12I, wisdom, dwell together with prudence,
and I find knowledge and discretion.
22The LORD created me as His first course,
before His works of old.

“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way,
Before His works of old. Proverbs 8:22

The LORD is the Son; Jesus Christ

Wisdom refers to the Spirit of Wisdom which is an expression of God; The Godhead, Elohim


There shall come forth a Rod from the stem of Jesse,
And a Branch shall grow out of his roots.
The Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon Him,
The Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
The Spirit of counsel and might,
The Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD.
Isaiah 11:2

This is speaking of the Man Jesus Christ.


And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth. Revelation 5:6


Jesus Christ created all things as God, the Son.


He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. Colossians 1:15-16


But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And: “You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.

Hebrews 1:8-10


The Son is LORD; YHWH
 
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