Christendom's Trinity: Where Did It Come From?

Jesus is the ONLY Lord, the One Lord
Jesus is the One Lord ---- There is one God, the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ TWO separated individuals NOT collapsed INTO ONE being.

The reason we know that Romans 10:13, although quoted from the OT in reference to YHWH, now refers to the Lord Jesus Christ is because Romans 10:11, also quoted from the OT Isaiah 28:16 which reads:

therefore thus says the Lord GOD (Adonai Yahweh), "Behold, I am the one who has laid as a foundation in Zion, a stone, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone, of a sure foundation: 'Whoever believes will not be in haste (ashamed)." [Isaiah 28:16]

"As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For it stands in Scripture: “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.” (1 Peter 2:4-6)

'So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone' [Ephesians 2:19,20]

Who is the cornerstone? none other than Jesus Christ so these OT scriptures in Romans 10 are in reference to the Lord Jesus Christ - those who call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ - (1 Cor. 1:2)

So according to the context, who do we call upon to be saved? 'call upon the name of the Lord', i.e. Jesus Christ.
 
Jesus is the One Lord ---- There is one God, the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ TWO separated individuals NOT collapsed INTO ONE being.

Look at 1 Cor 8:6 is being used.

When Paul writes: "one God , the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ he is NOT saying that the Father alone is God in nature, and
Jesus is merely a non-divine lord.

Paul is doing something much stronger..... he is redefining monotheism christologically by splitting the Shema (Deut 6:4
which states, "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!" between the Father and Jesus.

A first-century Jew could not do that unless Jesus was included within the identity of the one God.






2. “Not collapsed into one being” is a red flag phrase​


The Bible never uses “being” language. That phrase comes from later metaphysical debates, and here it is being used defensively to rule out Jesus’ deity.


In Scripture:


  • Jesus is distinct from the Father ✔
  • Jesus shares in what only God is and does

Denying His deity requires explaining away:


  • Creation through Him (John 1:3)
  • Worship of Him (Rev 5:13–14)
  • Divine titles (Isa 45 → Phil 2)
  • Preexistence (John 1:1)

That author’s wording avoids those issues by redefining the terms upfront.
 
Look at 1 Cor 8:6 is being used.

When Paul writes: "one God , the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ he is NOT saying that the Father alone is God in nature, and
Jesus is merely a non-divine lord.

Paul is doing something much stronger..... he is redefining monotheism christologically by splitting the Shema (Deut 6:4
which states, "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!" between the Father and Jesus.

A first-century Jew could not do that unless Jesus was included within the identity of the one God.
I see how it is being used - Paul is saying that although there are many gods and many "lords" - BUT TO US or FOR US there is but ONE God --- who is that one God? Paul tells us it is the Father.....there is but ONE God, the Father!
and there is ONE Lord --- who is that one Lord? Paul again tells us it is the Lord Jesus Christ - one Lord, Jesus Christ.
Now I see no differentiated nature mentioned . . . so that would have to read into the scripture!

No there is no reason for Paul to be redefining monotheism christologically! There is no reason for Paul to redefine the Shema of Deut. 6:4 or to redefine the Shema which Jesus said was the first and great commandment in Mark 12.

A first century Jew could not do what? Redefine the Shema????
No first century Jew WOULD WANT TO redefine the Shema!!!

2. “Not collapsed into one being” is a red flag phrase​


The Bible never uses “being” language. That phrase comes from later metaphysical debates, and here it is being used defensively to rule out Jesus’ deity.
In Scripture:
  • Jesus is distinct from the Father ✔
  • Jesus shares in what only God is and does
Correct, scripture never uses the word "being" in reference to God but a being is just something that has existence and we know that God exist so there is nothing untoward in calling God a being.
Denying His deity requires explaining away:
  • Creation through Him (John 1:3)
  • Worship of Him (Rev 5:13–14)
  • Divine titles (Isa 45 → Phil 2)
  • Preexistence (John 1:1)

That author’s wording avoids those issues by redefining the terms upfront.
Creation was through the word - John 1:3 (him is being used because of the masculine tense of the noun "word" and it is also used in the sense of personification of God's word; just as 'wisdom' is a feminine noun requires a feminine pronoun 'she' is God's wisdom personified)

We can worship the Messiah as the Son of God but NOT as OUR GOD ---- that's when the worship becomes idolatry.

Yeah, Nebuchadnezzar was called king of kings in Daniel 2:37 You, O king, the king of kings, to whom , God of heaven the kingdom, the power, and the might and the glory. and King Artaxerxes was also called king of kings in Ezra 7:12 Artaxerxes, king of kings, to Ezra the priest the scribe of the Law of God of heaven, Peace. And of course - He shares the titles King of Kings and Lord of Lords with his Son. (1 Tim. 6:15 and Rev. 17:14)
So I guess God can and does share His titles with whomever He pleases - they are HIS titles after all.

Jesus did not preexist ---- the word, the logos - God's word, God's spoken word was in the beginning - God's logos, God's thoughts were with God in his foreknowledge and plans for mankind.
Jesus had a source, an origin, a beginning - Matthew 1:1 tells of his beginning through 'the book of the genealogy/generation of Jesus Christ' . . . the book of the genesis of Jesus Christ. God was not the son of David, the son of Abraham - God was not 'begat'. -----
 
Of course it does, synergy, and you know it. That's why you are stalling for time now that I've asked you to start posting your first three set of supposed Trinity verses.
Again, you did nothing to address what I stated. So, instead of engaging my comments, you simply diverted away from it, thereby proving the very point I made about the non-Trinitarian habit of refusing to address the comprehensive biblical evidence of Divine Multi-Person Manifestations (Theophanies) unless it is reduced to a single proof-text containing the word “Trinity.”
Quit stalling and quote your first three set of verses so that I can direct you to scriptural context (surrounding words, verses, and chapters).
Don't tell me you can't find the verses that speak about the Incarnation, one of many Theophonies of God. Hop to it.
 
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