FreeInChrist
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In the beginning of creation who made creation happen?John 1:1 at Clause #1 is with reference to the beginning of creation. Jesus Christ aka "the Word," is a created being. John 1:1 at clause #1 informs the reader that Jesus/the Word had a beginning. This is confirmed at John 1:18 where it describes Jesus/the Word as "begotten."
Go to Post 167 for a fuller explanation where I provided scriptural quotations as well as the definition of the word "begotten" from Merriam-Webster's dictionary. Below is the link to that post.
atpollard:
John 1:1 has three independent clauses. Look at Clause #1. It says: "In the beginning was the Word...."
According to Christendom's Trinity, Jesus Christ aka "the Word" does not have a beginning.
Christendom's Trinity is defined as follows:
"There is but one living and true God, everlasting, without body, parts, or passions; of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness; the maker and preserver of all things both visible and indivisible. And in unity of this Godhead there be three persons, of ONE...
NWT satys
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
2 This one was in the beginning with God.
3 All things came into existence through him and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.
What has come into existence
4 by means of him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Right here it says the Word was already in existence with God, In existence from the very beginning, all things came into existence through him......... apart from him not even one thing came into existence.
What you are saying is that He created Himself.