All Claims of The Son's Deity

[Capbook]

Hebrews 1:8 is not a teaching on the trinity or that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God. Hebrews is saying your throne oh God is forever. Not Jesus is forever. In Hebrews it's quoted referring to Jesus having the use ofthat throne.

Hebrews 1:8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Psalms 45:6
Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

Above I bolded the words of the Father Himself that said to the Son, Thy throne, O God.
It is that, the Father just confirm that His Son is God. Don't you believe the Father's words?

 

[101G]

Above I bolded the words of the Father Himself that said to the Son, Thy throne, O God.
It is that, the Father just confirm that His Son is God. Don't you believe the Father's words?

Greeting,
101G just have one question, "is this not the same one person, the Father and Son, The LORD, (all caps), and the Lord?

the reason why 101G ask, Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
LORD here, (all caps), is, H3068 יְהוָה Yhvah (yeh-vaw') n/p.
יְהוָֹה Yhovah (yeh-ho-vaw')
יְהוֹ Yhow (yeh-ho') [as a prefix]
1. (meaning) the self-Existent or Eternal, the I AM.
2. (person) Yahweh (Yehvah), Jewish national name of God.
3. (anglicized) Jehovah.
4. (as a name prefix) Yeho-.
5. (As expressed in Hebraic Koine Greek) ἐγώ εἰμί, I AM (literally: I myself, I am).
[from H1961]
KJV: Jehovah, the Lord.
Root(s): H1961
Compare: H3050, H3069
See also: G1510

and the Lord, H113 אָדוֹן 'adown (aw-done') n-m.
אָדֹן 'adon (aw-done') [shortened]
1. sovereign (i.e. controller, human or divine).
2. lord.
{also used as a prefix for names}
[from an unused root (meaning to rule)]
KJV: lord, master, owner.
Compare: H136
See also: H1777

Take Note of definition #1... "divine" now this, the same "Lord" at the The LORD right.
Psalms 110:5 "The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath."
Lord here in verse 5 the same Lord in verse 1.
Lord: H136 אֲדֹנָי 'Adonay (ad-o-noy') n-m.
1. (meaning) Lord (used as a proper name of God only).
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
[am emphatic form of H113]
KJV: (my) Lord.
Root(s): H113
Compare: H3068, H1167, H1168
See also: G2962

the EMPHATIC form of H113? we suggest you look up what EMPHATIC means.

101G.

 

[Peterlag]

Above I bolded the words of the Father Himself that said to the Son, Thy throne, O God.
It is that, the Father just confirm that His Son is God. Don't you believe the Father's words?

God is not calling Jesus God. Hebrews 1:8 is a quote from Psalms that says "Thy throne, O God."

Hebrews 1:8 is an almost exact quotation from the Septuagint version of Psalm 45:6, which itself was a very good translation of the Hebrew text of Psalm 45:6, and Hebrews 1:9 is from the Septuagint of Psalm 45:7. The theme of Hebrews 1 centers around the Father’s rule and elevation of the Son over the rest of creation. God spoke through the prophets, and then through His Son, who He appointed heir of all things and who is now seated at God’s right hand as second in command under God.

The God of the Son—anointed him and set him above his companions, such that the Son now sits on God’s right hand. Hebrews exalts the Son, and in so doing exalts the Father. But in contrast to what Trinitarians say, Hebrews 1:8 (and thus Psalm 45:6) does not call Jesus “God” and does not support the Trinity. To see that fully, one must study Psalm 45. Upon examination, Psalm 45 does not support the Trinity, so when it is quoted in Hebrews 1:8 then that quotation does not support the Trinity either. The Jews read Psalm 45 for centuries and never concluded that the Messiah would be “God in the flesh” or somehow be part of a Triune God.

Hebrews 1:8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Psalms 45:6
Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

 

[Runningman]

The forever and ever throne in the New Testament is of Jesus, not of king Solomon.(Heb 1:8)
That supports the classic Jews' interpretation of Psa 45:6, that the "God" refers to the Jewish Messiah.
Jesus, a Jew and the Christ (Messiah) and God.

And the forever and ever throne of Solomon is in 2 Samuel 7:14-16 and Psalm 45:6. The Jews didn't believe Solomon is God who sits on the throne forever. "God" has different usages in Hebrews language and culture, it's not always a reference to literal deity. When the writer of Hebrews 1:8 applied Psalm 45:6 to Jesus then they weren't thinking that Solomon is God Almighty, so the idea of being God Almighty doesn't transfer to Jesus.

Read more of the context and it will be obvious that the one they are talking about is a lesser being than God who needed to be anointed above his companions by his God. God Almighty doesn't have companions to be anointed above right?

Hebrews 1
9You have loved righteousness
and hated wickedness;
therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
above Your companions with the oil of joy.

 

[101G]

God is not calling Jesus God. Hebrews 1:8 is a quote from Psalms that says "Thy throne, O God."

Pete, greeting.
one question for you, "is the Lord Jesus the ARM of God?" yes or no.

101G

 

[Capbook]

And the forever and ever throne of Solomon is in 2 Samuel 7:14-16 and Psalm 45:6. The Jews didn't believe Solomon is God who sits on the throne forever. "God" has different usages in Hebrews language and culture, it's not always a reference to literal deity. When the writer of Hebrews 1:8 applied Psalm 45:6 to Jesus then they weren't thinking that Solomon is God Almighty, so the idea of being God Almighty doesn't transfer to Jesus.

You may quote Old Testament verses to support the forever and ever throne of Solomon, but the fact is that it is not really a forever and ever throne as it didn't arrived in the New Testament. Again, the Almighty God the Father had said to the Son, "Your throne O, God." Don't you believe the Almighty God the Father's words?

Hebrews 1

9You have loved righteousness
and hated wickedness;
therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
above Your companions with the oil of joy.

And the forever and ever throne of Solomon is in 2 Samuel 7:14-16 and Psalm 45:6. The Jews didn't believe Solomon is God who sits on the throne forever. "God" has different usages in Hebrews language and culture, it's not always a reference to literal deity. When the writer of Hebrews 1:8 applied Psalm 45:6 to Jesus then they weren't thinking that Solomon is God Almighty, so the idea of being God Almighty doesn't transfer to Jesus.

Read more of the context and it will be obvious that the one they are talking about is a lesser being than God who needed to be anointed above his companions by his God. God Almighty doesn't have companions to be anointed above right?

Hebrews 1
9You have loved righteousness
and hated wickedness;
therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
above Your companions with the oil of joy.

And the forever and ever throne of Solomon is in 2 Samuel 7:14-16 and Psalm 45:6. The Jews didn't believe Solomon is God who sits on the throne forever. "God" has different usages in Hebrews language and culture, it's not always a reference to literal deity. When the writer of Hebrews 1:8 applied Psalm 45:6 to Jesus then they weren't thinking that Solomon is God Almighty, so the idea of being God Almighty doesn't transfer to Jesus.

You may quote Old Testament verses to support the forever and ever throne of Solomon, but the fact is that it is not really a forever and ever throne as it didn't arrived in the New Testament. Again, the Almighty God the Father had said to the Son, "Your throne O, God." Don't you believe the Almighty God the Father's words?

Read more of the context and it will be obvious that the one they are talking about is a lesser being than God who needed to be anointed above his companions by his God. God Almighty doesn't have companions to be anointed above right?

Hebrews 1
9You have loved righteousness
and hated wickedness;
therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
above Your companions with the oil of joy.

The verse never speaks about someone as lesser being than God, just don't add words.
The first "God" in that verse refers to Jesus just like verse 8, the second "God" refer to the Father.
Above Your companions or associates, that is to mean that He is above all who sustain the kingly office. He would be more exalted than all other kings as to mean that He was the most exalted of all.

 

[Capbook]

God is not calling Jesus God. Hebrews 1:8 is a quote from Psalms that says "Thy throne, O God."

Hebrews 1:8 is an almost exact quotation from the Septuagint version of Psalm 45:6, which itself was a very good translation of the Hebrew text of Psalm 45:6, and Hebrews 1:9 is from the Septuagint of Psalm 45:7. The theme of Hebrews 1 centers around the Father’s rule and elevation of the Son over the rest of creation. God spoke through the prophets, and then through His Son, who He appointed heir of all things and who is now seated at God’s right hand as second in command under God.

The God of the Son—anointed him and set him above his companions, such that the Son now sits on God’s right hand. Hebrews exalts the Son, and in so doing exalts the Father. But in contrast to what Trinitarians say, Hebrews 1:8 (and thus Psalm 45:6) does not call Jesus “God” and does not support the Trinity. To see that fully, one must study Psalm 45. Upon examination, Psalm 45 does not support the Trinity, so when it is quoted in Hebrews 1:8 then that quotation does not support the Trinity either. The Jews read Psalm 45 for centuries and never concluded that the Messiah would be “God in the flesh” or somehow be part of a Triune God.

Hebrews 1:8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Psalms 45:6
Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

You quote Hebrews 1:8, do the Father did not say to the Son, "Your throne, O God?" To whom did the Father said, "O God?"