Your Views on The Trinity

Thus, your original point is still meaningless.
God, Jesus, the prophets, and the disciples never said which verses to look at to find the trinity or define the doctrine. That's something you guys made up over the centuries, argued your heads off about, and persecuted Christians to enforce. Yeah it requires a secret decoder ring and even the ring is ultimately useless.

Know why Trinitarians always say the Trinity is great yesterday contrary to Scripture explicitly stating that Jesus has revealed who the Father is and how to know Him?
 
They are forcing me to learn stuff I really have no interest in. Like this Hebrews 1:10 that I'm seeing from a few of them just in the last few days. I can tell by the context that the word "Lord" is referring to God and not Jesus. I spent a few minutes digging into it and I learned it's a quote from the Old Testament. And that's why it says Thou, Lord. I swear these trinity people are brain dead.

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
They always forget that Hebrews 1:10 begins with "And." A small word, but it does a lot of heavy lifting. It conjoins Hebrews 1:10 to Hebrews 1:9 and refers to the closest previously mentioned God, the God who anointed Jesus, as YHWH rather than referring to Jesus as YHWH. Hebrews 1:8 defines Jesus as a human king who has a God (see Psalm 45:6)
 
He affirms the "Lord" refers to Jesus in Hebrews 1:10.
You apparently have not read his work. I am very familiar with his Hebrews 1:10 commentary and you are wrong.


2. Although we ascribe to the explanation above, a number of theologians read this verse and see it as a reference to the Father, which is a distinct possibility. Verse 10 starts with the word “and” in the Greek text, so verse 9 and 10 are conjoined. Since verse 9 ends with, “Your God has set you [the Christ] above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy,” these theologians see the reference to “the Lord” in the beginning of verse 10 as a reference back to the God last mentioned, i.e., the Father. Norton explains this point of view:

https://www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/hebrews-1-10
 
You apparently have not read his work. I am very familiar with his Hebrews 1:10 commentary and you are wrong.


2. Although we ascribe to the explanation above, a number of theologians read this verse and see it as a reference to the Father, which is a distinct possibility. Verse 10 starts with the word “and” in the Greek text, so verse 9 and 10 are conjoined. Since verse 9 ends with, “Your God has set you [the Christ] above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy,” these theologians see the reference to “the Lord” in the beginning of verse 10 as a reference back to the God last mentioned, i.e., the Father. Norton explains this point of view:

https://www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/hebrews-1-10


Thanks for the link!

For it also says the following:

Authors who believe that the verse refers to the Son:

Broughton and Southgate, pp. 289-295

Buzzard, pp. 161 and 162

Racovian Catechism, pp. 95-105



Not only that, here is John Schoenheit in his commentary:

“And, You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the works of your hands.” This verse is quoted from the Septuagint text of the Old Testament (Ps. 102:25), which differs somewhat from the Hebrew text. But even so, Heb. 1:10 is not an exact quote of the Septuagint. In the Old Testament it applied to Yahweh, but the author of Hebrews lifted it from the Psalms and applied it to Jesus Christ.



Love it!
Unitarians can't even differentiate between their creator and creature-jesus among themselves.
Classic!
 
Thanks for the link!

For it also says the following:

Authors who believe that the verse refers to the Son:

Broughton and Southgate, pp. 289-295

Buzzard, pp. 161 and 162

Racovian Catechism, pp. 95-105



Not only that, here is John Schoenheit in his commentary:

“And, You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the works of your hands.” This verse is quoted from the Septuagint text of the Old Testament (Ps. 102:25), which differs somewhat from the Hebrew text. But even so, Heb. 1:10 is not an exact quote of the Septuagint. In the Old Testament it applied to Yahweh, but the author of Hebrews lifted it from the Psalms and applied it to Jesus Christ.



Love it!
You're welcome! I hope you learn more about what Christians believe. John Schoenheit believes Christ's God is YHWH and that the previously mentioned God is the Father. He doesn't believe Jesus is YHWH. The commentaries prove it. Love it too!
 
John Schoenheit believes

that the "Lord" refers to Jesus in Hebrews 1:10, but then says it is possible it doesn't.

Unitarians can't even figure who is their creator and creature-jesus.
Classic.

I remember your dodge on this:


 
They always forget that Hebrews 1:10 begins with "And." A small word, but it does a lot of heavy lifting. It conjoins Hebrews 1:10 to Hebrews 1:9 and refers to the closest previously mentioned God, the God who anointed Jesus, as YHWH rather than referring to Jesus as YHWH. Hebrews 1:8 defines Jesus as a human king who has a God (see Psalm 45:6)
low intelligence, ignorance, and an incapacity for critical thought are prerequisites for membership in trinitarian circles.
 
So it is not only Trinitarians who assert that the "Lord" in Hebrews 1:10 refers to Jesus.
You said some guy named John was not a Trinitarian. And I said neither am I. Now how did you turn that into... So it is not only Trinitarians who assert that the "Lord" in Hebrews 1:10 refers to Jesus.
 
that the "Lord" refers to Jesus in Hebrews 1:10, but then says it is possible it doesn't.

Unitarians can't even figure who is their creator and creature-jesus.
Classic.

I remember your dodge on this:


No idea what you're talking about. Apparently you are not reading what he wrote or what was said. He does not believe Jesus is YHWH. He provided a counter argument in his commentary and how it doesn't make sense.
 
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