Your Views on The Trinity

Jesus was “one who in every respect has been tempted as we are,...

yet without sin” (Hebrew 4:15), and yet the Bible is clear that God cannot be tempted: “for God cannot be tempted with evil” (James 1:13). Angels ministered to and strengthened Jesus at times of weakness or difficulty and we see this in Luke 22:43 that says “And there appeared to him an angel from heaven, strengthening him” [in the garden of Gethsemane]. Humans need to be strengthened, but God does not need to be strengthened by angels or by anyone or anything. Scripture says very plainly that Jesus died. God cannot die. Romans 1:23 and other verses say that God is immortal. Orthodox Christian doctrine teaches only the human side of Jesus died, but that assertion is based on assumptions because there's no verse of Scripture that says anything like“only the human side of the nature of Jesus died.”
 
Peterlag said:
Jesus was “one who in every respect has been tempted as we are,...

yet without sin” (Hebrew 4:15), and yet the Bible is clear that God cannot be tempted: “for God cannot be tempted with evil” (James 1:13). Angels ministered to and strengthened Jesus at times of weakness or difficulty and we see this in Luke 22:43 that says “And there appeared to him an angel from heaven, strengthening him” [in the garden of Gethsemane]. Humans need to be strengthened, but God does not need to be strengthened by angels or by anyone or anything. Scripture says very plainly that Jesus died. God cannot die. Romans 1:23 and other verses say that God is immortal. Orthodox Christian doctrine teaches only the human side of Jesus died, but that assertion is based on assumptions because there's no verse of Scripture that says anything like“only the human side of the nature of Jesus died.”
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oh. so you are assuming what God incarnate could not encounter being in human form, as if there is a scientific evidence found in this field. You probably have a degree in scientific experiments seeing how God incarnate has reacted in various experiments. Share your studies.
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
And take notice that when peter , thomas or any of them were in error , JESUS corrected them .
He even had rebuked thomas for not having Faith in beleiving HE had risen .
BUT I darn sure dont see him telling that same thomas
TO GET UP and WORSHIP GOD and HE is but a man . I DIDNT SEE That .
But there is a reason why .
GOD is the alpha and omega , the first and the last . JESUS uses that same title too .
you see , IN the BEGINNING was THE WORD and the word was WITH GOD
and the word WAS GOD . i thinks folks need to simply BELIEVE what is written .
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“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1‬:‭1‬-‭2‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
For no man has seen The Father . no not even MOSES saw HIS FACE . just the wee wee hindermost parts of GOD
all mighty . Moses had heard the voice of GOD in that busch
and when asked who shall i say sent me , THE NAME , I AM was given .
And now a word .
I have MADE MANIFEST YOUR NAME , said JESUS when praying to the FATHER .
To the trenches the name of JESUS THE CHRIST is being trod under foot
as having to be confessed and believed in .
TIS THE ONLY NAME given whereby one can be saved . I HAVE GIVEN THEM YOUR NAME .
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@Tothalordbeallglory
“Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6‬:‭46‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
Right before he writes that part in romans
He says That if one will CONFESS the LORD JESUS .
calling upon the LORD , means CALLING UPON JESUS THE CHRIST .
the jews claimed to call upon and even worship GOD
but did they . NO SIR . not the ones who rejected CHRIST .
To call upon THE NAME of THE LORD . equals CALLING UPON JESUS THE CHRIST
those are who will be saved .
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@Tothalordbeallglory
“that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10‬:‭9‬-‭10‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
Marvelloustime said:
@Tothalordbeallglory
“that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10‬:‭9‬-‭10‬ ‭KJV‬‬
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meine schwester ist hier . Onward in the trenches dear sister . drop all them lovely words of truth as a continual
reminder to all .
 
Peterlag said:
Well, Let's look at the first one on the list... Matthew 1:20

I don't see the trinity there, but I do see the mention of the Holy Spirit. So what's the trinity point? There are many descriptions, titles, and names for God in the Bible and I would like to add God’s proper name is “Yahweh” which occurs more than 6,000 times in the Hebrew Old Testament and is generally translated as “LORD.” But God is also referred to as Elohim, Adonai, El Shaddai, the Ancient of Days, the Holy One of Israel, Father, Shield, and by many more designations. Furthermore, God is holy (Leviticus 11:44), which is why He was called “the Holy One” (the Hebrew text uses the singular adjective “holy” to designate “the Holy One." He is also spirit (John 4:24). It makes perfect sense since God is holy and God is spirit that “Holy” and “Spirit” are sometimes combined and used as one of the many designations for God.
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"an angel of the Lord" That would be an angel of God. "for the Child who has been conceived in her" That would be Jesus, the Son. "is of the Holy Spirit". I'm not claiming these verses are proofs of the Trinity but they are references to the three persons in the Godhead.

Is it just a coincidence that the Holy Spirit saw fit to mention and/or refer to the three persons at the same time, during the same prophecy, or the same sermon, or the same teaching - 164 times in the New Testament?

I don't think so. The fact that one is seldom mentioned without at least one of the others also mentioned - and all three are mentioned 164 times, is NOT a coincidence. In fact, that should tell us something - that they are inseparable.
 
dwight92070 said:
"an angel of the Lord" That would be an angel of God. "for the Child who has been conceived in her" That would be Jesus, the Son. "is of the Holy Spirit". I'm not claiming these verses are proofs of the Trinity but they are references to the three persons in the Godhead.

Is it just a coincidence that the Holy Spirit saw fit to mention and/or refer to the three persons at the same time, during the same prophecy, or the same sermon, or the same teaching - 164 times in the New Testament?

I don't think so. The fact that one is seldom mentioned without at least one of the others also mentioned - and all three are mentioned 164 times, is NOT a coincidence. In fact, that should tell us something - that they are inseparable.
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My dog, cat and wife are mostly always mentioned together and they are not one person.
 
enough confuscious . your words the sheep do not receive . TIME to speak TRUTH .
In the beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with GOD and the Word was GOD .
and the word became flesh . Confuscious preaches confusion to this people . Nuff of it .
Time to preach the CHRIST JESUS , HE who said I am alpha and omega , the first and the last
THE WORD OF GOD ALL MIGHTY . King of kings and Lord of Lords
 
Peterlag said:
Something mentioned together in or out of the Bible does not mean they are one.
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Even an amateur detective would say: "There's a pattern here.", especially after seeing it 164 times! But you don't want to see that, so you belittle it and mock it. Not only that, but the fact that it occurs in the Word of God, where the Holy Spirit directed the words to be used, is also highly significant. If it happened in another book, it would still reveal a pattern created by the author, but would not be anything more than interesting reading. But the Holy Spirit is the author of the Bible, which we are commanded to meditate on, and when we do that, we will know the truth. The Holy Spirit presents the three persons, of course He being one of them, as inseparable. Go ahead and mock and deny it, but you do that to your own harm.
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
And take notice that when peter , thomas or any of them were in error , JESUS corrected them .
He even had rebuked thomas for not having Faith in beleiving HE had risen .
BUT I darn sure dont see him telling that same thomas
TO GET UP and WORSHIP GOD and HE is but a man . I DIDNT SEE That .
But there is a reason why .
GOD is the alpha and omega , the first and the last . JESUS uses that same title too .
you see , IN the BEGINNING was THE WORD and the word was WITH GOD
and the word WAS GOD . i thinks folks need to simply BELIEVE what is written .
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That my brother requires "faith". And "faith" to some is merely a 5 letter f word.
 

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