Your Views on The Trinity
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A unitarian seems limited to an understanding of God in a way of words limited to those used in scripture. For he unitarian, it is impossible to imagine that God's essence extends far beyond any words man could imagine and thus must be confined in his essence to words in a hyper-literalist sense.
Jehovah is a man made name by adding letters to YHWH.
A compound word Jehovah is made up of these two Hebrew words.
Yah : H3050 a shortened for for the LORD.
HALLELUYAH = praise the LORD
hovah : H1943. - ruin, disaster, mischief.
From the root H1942 ; havvâh
havvâh, hav-vaw'; from H1933 (in the sense of eagerly coveting and rushing upon; by implication, of falling); desire; also ruin:—calamity, iniquity, mischief, mischievous (thing), naughtiness, naughty, noisome, perverse thing, substance, very wickedness.
Screen shot from the Strongs below.
Jehovah = lord of wickedness, ruin, iniquity
Of course was have Thomas calling Jesus God. That upsets the pattern that some hyper-literalist decides not to take as literal.
dwight92070
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The only label I ascribe to is a follower of Jesus Christ: a son of God
What verses do I not know?
Peterlag
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You don't know mostly about the 8 verses that the trinity folks have to piece together from statements that are scattered all over the New Testament. The trinity is pieced together by picking one verse here, and another verse there, a hint here and a clue there and then they construct their "own God" which is the product of their own human reasoning process, speculations and assumptions. Nothing more.
Haha. It is better to recognize our own God who is over all than to pursue a concept of god limited by what unitarians arrive at via a hyper-literalist, restricted view that is limited to only words they find in the bible while denying the actual meaning of passages in the bible. Peterlag is clever in his interpretation but not convincing in his denials of obvious passages like John 1.
You need to start learning from scripture and Trinitarians. Do not lean on your own understanding.
Tothalordbeallglory
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Right before he writes that part in romans
He says That if one will CONFESS the LORD JESUS .
calling upon the LORD , means CALLING UPON JESUS THE CHRIST .
the jews claimed to call upon and even worship GOD
but did they . NO SIR . not the ones who rejected CHRIST .
To call upon THE NAME of THE LORD . equals CALLING UPON JESUS THE CHRIST
those are who will be saved .
Tothalordbeallglory
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For no man has seen The Father . no not even MOSES saw HIS FACE . just the wee wee hindermost parts of GOD
all mighty . Moses had heard the voice of GOD in that busch
and when asked who shall i say sent me , THE NAME , I AM was given .
And now a word .
I have MADE MANIFEST YOUR NAME , said JESUS when praying to the FATHER .
To the trenches the name of JESUS THE CHRIST is being trod under foot
as having to be confessed and believed in .
TIS THE ONLY NAME given whereby one can be saved . I HAVE GIVEN THEM YOUR NAME .
Tothalordbeallglory
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There is a wee bit of a problem in that diagram shown . Notice it says JEHOVAH is THE HOLY SPIRIT
but it dont say JESUS IS . but it should . Its the same spirit .
I notice It also says the Father is not the HOLY SPIRIT , but somehow JEHOVAH IS .
talk about a hyprocrisy . JEHOVAH is ONE of THE NAMES HE goes by .
This diagram looks messed up if you ask me .
Tothalordbeallglory
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And take notice that when peter , thomas or any of them were in error , JESUS corrected them .
He even had rebuked thomas for not having Faith in beleiving HE had risen .
BUT I darn sure dont see him telling that same thomas
TO GET UP and WORSHIP GOD and HE is but a man . I DIDNT SEE That .
But there is a reason why .
GOD is the alpha and omega , the first and the last . JESUS uses that same title too .
you see , IN the BEGINNING was THE WORD and the word was WITH GOD
and the word WAS GOD . i thinks folks need to simply BELIEVE what is written .
All you have to do is post a scripture that makes your point and stop talking about the Trinity.
Make you point and post your scripture.
Peterlag
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It's not our diagram. It's one of the ones the trinity folks use. Our comments are whats written to the left and right of the diagram.
dwight92070
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Peterlag
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Well, Let's look at the first one on the list... Matthew 1:20
I don't see the trinity there, but I do see the mention of the Holy Spirit. So what's the trinity point? There are many descriptions, titles, and names for God in the Bible and I would like to add God’s proper name is “Yahweh” which occurs more than 6,000 times in the Hebrew Old Testament and is generally translated as “LORD.” But God is also referred to as Elohim, Adonai, El Shaddai, the Ancient of Days, the Holy One of Israel, Father, Shield, and by many more designations. Furthermore, God is holy (Leviticus 11:44), which is why He was called “the Holy One” (the Hebrew text uses the singular adjective “holy” to designate “the Holy One." He is also spirit (John 4:24). It makes perfect sense since God is holy and God is spirit that “Holy” and “Spirit” are sometimes combined and used as one of the many designations for God.
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